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2013 Kentucky football projected scholarship roster

  • TREYJUKFAN said...

    The issue with this class is not finding 25 for this year, it's staying under the 85 total scholarship maximum. With the numbers above we have 68 (not including Harmon which absolutely should get one), leaving 17 available. Yes, scholarships are awarded year to year, but how do you tell a kid that his school is no longer paid for after he has been here for three or four years?

    Not to be picky, but staying under 85, and finding 25 scholarships for this year, are really one in the same. In any event, let's use your math, and start with 17. Given both a totally new offense and defense, I think there are easily 8 current players, who either do not fit the new scheme, don't make grades, or won't be happy sitting.

    The cold reality is, you are good enough to play in the SEC, or you are not. Life is not always fair. Neal Brown himself, transferred out of here. Think he is going to be sympathetic? I would suggest, you start with the underclassmen who would still have 2 or more years to play somewhere else. Two years from now, after a couple of losing seasons, no one is going to credit this staff for being fair to the current roster. They are going to be evaluated with progress, and that starts now, fair or not.

    70scat

  • I meant "finding 25 players" or I guess I should have said I don't think the new staff will have a problem filling a full 25 man class but trying to decide who should be cut. For most positions, it's the underclassmen that are the more talented players...so do you cut someone who is more talented or the senior leadership? I think I would take the schollys from the upperclassmen.

    TREYJUKFAN

  • TREYJUKFAN said...

    I meant "finding 25 players" or I guess I should have said I don't think the new staff will have a problem filling a full 25 man class but trying to decide who should be cut. For most positions, it's the underclassmen that are the more talented players...so do you cut someone who is more talented or the senior leadership? I think I would take the schollys from the upperclassmen.

    The problem with taking away mostly Srs or Jrs is then the next 2 years numbers really get skewed and cut down on what you can add for 2014 & 15.. I think the only way to do it is by looking at your roster position by position and spots where we're over stocked, then someone has to go and it needs to be the ones that aren't likely going to play or simply aren't SEC caliber guys. Alot of our recruits from the previous staff were stretches and in saying that I mean they may have been recruited more on potential than actual ability and some have worked out and some haven't. For instance, we have a real shortage of DEs, CBs and WRs, so, those are positions you can't afford to lose someone.. Then you have a stockpile of TEs, Safetys and LBs, so, you may evaluate these 3 spots and recommend 1 or 2 at each of those spots look for something else.. 3 QBs is fine, but, as we all saw last year, we needed everyone of them and, at times, held our breath that one didn't go down or we'd have really been in a pickle, so, you can't take any of those guys.. In the 4-3 D, you need at least 5-6 solid DTs, so, you may can cut a little fat there, but, not much.. We have a stockpile of RBs, but, in the SEC, you better have 4-5 really good ones because the season is a grind and this is a spot where alot of injuries occur, so, I can't see us cutting anything there, unless it's a FB possibly, because not sure if Browns system utilizes the FB much, if at all.. With all this, you probably have 4-5 guys who'll be evaluated and asked to pursue other opportunities, then, as is always the case, you'll have 3-4 guys who'll either quit, not make there grades, get injured or whatever else which will open up 7-9 spots, so, that 17 spots we have now turns into 24 to 26 spots.. With so few srs next year, I think the staff would love to only sign 22-23 this year to leave a couple of extra for next year, however, right now, there's a buzz and excitement surrounding the program, so, you may want to strike all you can while the iron is hot and while some of our close rivals like Cinci & Tenn are in a transition period.. However it goes, it is exciting to see how things will all shake out and what the future of the program has in store for us..

    bluecatntn

  • CMD77 said...

    I actually did notice, which further adds to my confusion / frustration. How in the world do you get yourself in a situation where you have 4 senior TE's? It just doesn't make any sense to me.

    Better question ... how can you have 4 Sr tight ends and none of them are productive?

    Two roads diverged in a wood, and I, I took the one less traveled by, and it has made all the difference (Frost).

    Cats Den

  • Another issue, how many guys do you see on the roster that can play center?

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  • The cats have at least 8 players that are 5th year seniors. Ligon was originally a DE. I believe that a 5th year senior should at least be in the 2 deep roster. If not, dropping them from active football would free up some scholarships.

    P.S. Everybody should give to the Cawood Ledford Scholarship fund. This fund pays for former athletes to finish there degrees.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by dad52 on 12/15/2012 at 10:33 PM

    dad52

  • CMD77 said...

    I actually did notice, which further adds to my confusion / frustration. How in the world do you get yourself in a situation where you have 4 senior TE's? It just doesn't make any sense to me.

    That's because these guys replaced Ross Bogue, Mo Ginter, and TC Drake who were all TEs in the same class.

    RG3UK

  • TREYJUKFAN said...

    The issue with this class is not finding 25 for this year, it's staying under the 85 total scholarship maximum. With the numbers above we have 68 (not including Harmon which absolutely should get one), leaving 17 available. Yes, scholarships are awarded year to year, but how do you tell a kid that his school is no longer paid for after he has been here for three or four years?

    I would have absolutely no problem telling kids that were slacking and not putting out the proper effort to become SEC players to move on. I would however have a problem telling kids that have put out the effort and still were just unable to compete in the SEC that I was pulling their SS.

    These kids are getting an education that probally would cost them 100,000 dollars if they had to pay for it out of their pocket. Playing football is what is paying for that education and IMO giving a proper effort should be required.

    Cll80

  • Numbers always have a way of working out. Once the staff has spring practice to evaluate personnel, some players will see the writing on the wall and leave the program. It isn't unusual to see up to10 guys leave a program when a new coaching staff takes over.

    BRAVE DEMON

  • catsfan19 said...

    The big thing that jumps out at me is only nine seniors on the team next year. 2014 could set up for a very good year with all the players having a full year in the system

    Another thing that stands out: 4 of 5 TEs are seniors and 5 of 6 WRs are sophs. Way out of kilter to have these guys loaded into single classes like that.

    t75

  • With 6 scholarship and one walk-on WRs, got to wonder how many of those would get significant PT on other SEC teams (other than Vandy and the Mississippis).

    t75

  • I for one am very excited to see George next year...it feels like that guy has been here FOREVER! I think with this staff and Browns emphasis on running he will have a huge year as will Clemons.

    JCHS02

  • The scariest thing about this is two guys that reportedly not cutting it in the class room (Sweat and Caffey), are at positions that are extremely light as is and both would contribute heavily. The other one (Kendrick), is one of the many TE's we have on the roster, so while he may not be an idealmcut, it at least is at a fat position.

    MossCat15