The House of Blue

IMO Chris Petersen (and his staff) is one of the best evaluators of talent in the country. When his teams have went toe to toe with the big boys, they have answered the bell. They are 8-1 against BCS teams, including Va. Tech, Georgia, Oklahoma, Arizona St. Oregon, Oregon St. and Washington. He is 73-6 overall. 73-6 is just about damn unheard of at any level. I think he's an excellent X & O guy, but you can't go 73-6 without some talent. I agree that they would currently have a depth problem playing in a league like the SEC, but you have to figure that if they were a member of the SEC he would eventually build that depth. I was always skeptical about BSU until they came to Atlanta and absolutely handed Georgia their ass in front of a wildly partisan UGA crowd.

That was a big exception you put in that sentence Jeff. Didn't Leach have a couple of very big years?

Don' know about a "line", crossing or whatever. But I said what I meant with words that I meant. And my thinking is pretty consistent with that of many Cat fans. Along about late November my words will sound soft compared to the posts that boards such as this one will be filled with. Not trying to be nasty, just wrote what I feel is truth about Joker.

Five seasons with 5+ losses, five seasons with .500 or worse record in the Big 12. Ask yourself what that projects to in the SEC.

Better yet... THIS tells you what that projects to:

Jeff I respect your opion but . I tottallty 100 % disagree with this , u can't can't Cherry pick games and say that any kind of marker for success in the SEC, Leach has coached in the SEC before and is respected for is coaching abilities in this league , like it or not he is consider one top 20 -30 coaches in the country. so if you lose a bowl game to a SEC team then that some kind sign, I guess we would lose in the Big East since we got manhandled by a Pittsburg team with a intern coach in a bowl game and lost to Louisville last year, what does that project?? but like I said respect your thoughts on the matter

well we will see I guess , who do think has a better upside right now? UK or WSU, let's have this discussion a year from now

That really has nothing to do with it. You said Leach was a top coach in the country. I just think its odd that a top coach in the country would have to go to Washington St. to coach. Thats the absolute best offer he got eventhough lots of solid programs had openings. I just find that odd since he's a such a great coach and a top coach in the country.

You don't quite get it do you. Jeff said IN THE SEC his record equals about what Brooks record was after we got clear of probation and he's completely right. Furthermore Mike Leach is not a top coach in the country or he'd be coaching at an elite program not Washington St. lol.

I'm pretty sure I have a better grasp on it than you do. I listed some facts from Leach's tenure at Tech. What facts are you using? You guys are using pure speculation. You can't honestly say what his record at Tech would translate to in the SEC. You can't take the game against Ole Miss and infer anything other than Ole Miss was the better team that day. Using your logic, you would have to say that Georgia would have fared worse last year in the Mountain West than they did in the SEC. Sounds ridiculous now don't it?

I will ask you again, do you think WSU would rather have Joker?

Leach described to a T. Listening to him some on Sirius radio the last couple of years, at times he was funny and insightful, and at times just out there in his own corner of the universe. I've never said that Leach couldn't coach, but he has been passed over by numerous programs, before and after being fired at TTU. I have a feeling that like Mike Price, he's better off in a place like Pullman.

Leach is a weird guy but he is not an idiot or a real trouble maker. He tangled with the schools administration who gave him a very big offer to keep him at TT and a year later reneged on the contract. They had second thoughts about the money and Adam James, Craig James' son, was conveniently whining about playing time and hard practices when he was sent to sit out practice in a maintenance building. The elder James, an ESPN analyst and expert on breaking rules while helping lead the SMU Pony Express into the only major death penalty oblivion handed down by the NCAA, got pissed that his son was not a star and being mistreated then made it an on-air crusade to get Leach. Leach had often called out the NCAA but was never in major trouble with them stuck to his guns and it is still in court. In my opinion, TT, ESPN, and Craig James will lose this one with a settlement. Leach is an innovative and outstanding college football coach whose teams won and were academically exemplary. Leach doesn't please everyone around him but he does his job very well. I assume you know what Adoph Rupp said about being popular. On the other hand, Leach is a saint compared to a jerk like Bobby Knight.

Joker may be "one of us" and has been an outstanding recruiter and coordinator but his HC management has been poor. Brooks was wonderful for UK and considering the situation he was in here was remarkable. His record of accomplishments at UK however is in no way comparable with Leach. The only guy who ever came to coach UK with a HC resume comparable to Leach was Bill Curry but we never funded the program adequately to get the assistants we needed to compete and he ultimately failed. I am convinced that unless UK decides to better fund and recruit the football coaching positions we will be irrelevant.

Leach was a great match for UK because he is a very good head coach with a problem, the lawsuit, and he liked Lexington. Leach would have brought attention and recruits based on his resume. The timing wasn't great with Joker in his second year so I see how it happened like it did but if we see more of the same Joker is done and we will need someone like Leach to fix UKFB. That is if the administration is really committed to fixing it.

okay

Anyone who thinks that Leach is not a top coach is football stupid and needs to ask Tim Couch what he thinks of Leach and his offensive mind..

That being said, Joker Beat Louisville.