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K__TIME said...
Yes..it is all gone, but this shows what a good or bad hire can do overnight.
Kragthorpe did the same to a squad he inherited at UL, etc..but a good hire can transform things just as quickly .
- Mullen, Franklin (I'm waiting this year to see what he really does), Strong to some degree, Urban Meyer did it, Saban took a dithering Bama and after 1 year was national power, etc..
THe problem for me is UK seemingly never gets the hire like UL does. Schellenberger, John L Smith, Petrino and Strong (with only Kragthorpe and Ron Cooper as bad hires).
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tWhit said...
Probably should hire Petrino and hire him fast. Unless you can find somebody just as good without all the baggage. I don't see that guy out there but you never know.
Matt Jones said he would be pushing for Leach. F'ing pathetic. I don't want Leach under circumstances. I'd rather keep Joker.
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tWhit said...
Probably should hire Petrino and hire him fast. Unless you can find somebody just as good without all the baggage. I don't see that guy out there but you never know.
Matt Jones said he would be pushing for Leach. F'ing pathetic. I don't want Leach under circumstances. I'd rather keep Joker.
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msdcatfan said...
I have been in Jokers corner thruout, but after tonight and seeing where things are going, I just don't see how he can survive without at least 3 upsets in sec play. The way it looks we will be the underdog in every conference game, including Vandy. And some of those games may very possibly end up being as ugly as a couple were last yr. The sad thing is Joker is a great guy and ambassador for UK. But then again, so was Curry, and Tubby, and BillyG (whoops, not so much there). I bleed blue and will be pulling for them to get it together, but when the Sun Belt can come into our house and basically control the game..........
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tWhit said...
Probably should hire Petrino and hire him fast. Unless you can find somebody just as good without all the baggage. I don't see that guy out there but you never know.
Matt Jones said he would be pushing for Leach. F'ing pathetic. I don't want Leach under circumstances. I'd rather keep Joker.
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TheProfessor said...
Ladies and gentlemen,
With all due respect to each of you, the answer for UK football does not start with hiring another coach this year, next year or any year unless and until the UK administration becomes committed to building a SEC quality football program. We have had good coaches come in here over the years, and while some of them have experienced more success at UK than others, none of them have enjoyed as much success at UK as they experienced at their stops prior to UK. Claiborne at Maryland and Virginia Tech was the envy of the Big Blue Nation for several years. He came here as his last coaching stop, a favor to his alma mater, and he put the best defenses on the field over the course of his tenure that we have seen in these parts since, but he was hounded by the fan base for his outdated wide tackle 6 defense. What could Claiborne have accomplished at his alma mater, if he had the UK administration taking the steps necessary to move this program into the real SEC world? Ditto for Brooks. What could he have accomplished here if he had the UK administration commitment to SEC level success?
Joker is stumbling, and as some say, bumbling his way through what is now his third year. I see improvement on the offensive side of the ball. I see improvement on the special teams. I see potential for improvement on defense in the next 1 to 3 seasons (probably not this season).
Unless the UK administration steps to the plate with a serious plan for football success, I oppose another senseless swing of the revolving coaching door. With that UK administration commitment, I believe Joker can build a competitive football program here, and he bleeds blue more than anyone else I can see out there who would be willing to come here and step into his shoes.
I believe the problem is not fixed on the head coaching position.
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footballcat65,
I know that is an honest question. I am going to give you an honest answer, and I am not playing games.
I do not know. If I did, I would be qualified to serve as an Athletic Director at an SEC school. I have wrestled with this very question since I reached this conclusion in 2000. I had 6 season tickets at that time. I sat through all the heat of September, rains of October, and cold of November for decades. I traveled to 1 to 3 road games each season from the late 1970s (Curci) through 2000. My fall seasons were completely committed to my favorite activity, UK football.
In 2000, I finally concluded that the array of head coaches I had supported for those years was not the source of the languishing program. I stopped spending my time and money on the activity, and promised that I would not resume until I saw commitment to UK football.
Lastly, let me say that my conclusion did not make me happy. I have not celebrated that conclusion, because fixing a bad coaching hire is relatively easy to fix, as we saw in basketball, and as Louisville has shown us again in football. However, fixing an institutional resistance, overcoming an institutional negative inertia, does not have an easy fix.
Nevertheless, I remain convinced that an institutional level solution is required.
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All the positive brought to our program by Brooks...gone