Online Now 1345

The House of Blue

The home for all discussion on UK athletics

On this Board 457
Record: 3046 (4/11/2012)

Online now 1326
Record: 6210 (3/13/2012)

Boards ▾

The House of Blue

The home for all discussion on UK athletics

The Paddock

The place to discuss general topics outside of Kentucky

UK Ticket Exchange

Buy, sell or swap tickets

Reply

As of now, who do you consider "bubble" teams?

  • Im asking this question to see if anyone sees any bigtime schools on the bubble right now. Iwould consider UNC as 1 team on the bubble with only 1 win of note and that is UNLV. Other than that win they dont have 1 single quality win and they show very little improvement. My 2nd team maybe a surprise but remember it is as of now and UK certainly qualifies to be a bubble team at this point in the season. The difference between UK and UNC is that KY has shown some improvement especially in the UL game but they also cant say they have beaten a quality team. The only team of note is Maryland and are they even considered a quality team as of yet. I think UK will certainly get a bid by the end of the season b/c I believe they will be a lot better than they are now and will be a scary opponent to the higher seeds come tourney time. So come on be honest and tell me what teams you consider a bubble team at this point in the season.

    sleepydog

  • sleepydog said...

    Im asking this question to see if anyone sees any bigtime schools on the bubble right now. Iwould consider UNC as 1 team on the bubble with only 1 win of note and that is UNLV. Other than that win they dont have 1 single quality win and they show very little improvement. My 2nd team maybe a surprise but remember it is as of now and UK certainly qualifies to be a bubble team at this point in the season. The difference between UK and UNC is that KY has shown some improvement especially in the UL game but they also cant say they have beaten a quality team. The only team of note is Maryland and are they even considered a quality team as of yet. I think UK will certainly get a bid by the end of the season b/c I believe they will be a lot better than they are now and will be a scary opponent to the higher seeds come tourney time. So come on be honest and tell me what teams you consider a bubble team at this point in the season.

    Too early.

    Keep Calm & Stoops On..

    _Mike_

  • _Mike_ said...

    Too early.

    Maybe but thanks for responding.

    sleepydog

  • Right now, I believe teams like Illinois, Iowa, Kansas State, Georgetown, Stanford, Maryland, Texas, Marquette, Tennessee and Oklahoma and Alabama should be concerned about getting in or finding themselves left out. Teams in the 50 to 70 range that could play themselves in but if they don't improve from their current level of play will be left out by the weak conference champs that get automatic bids.

    signature image

    http://bigbluefans4uk.com

    TheProfessor

  • As Mike says, I think it's way too early to start putting teams on the bubble ... we're only about a third of the way through the season.

    Look at this year's NFL season. As late as halfway through the season, the NY Giants and the Chicago Bears were 6-2 and 7-1 respectively and both comfortably in 1st place in their divisions. Now, at the end of the year, both missed the playoffs and Washington and Minnesota are in. And that's while only playing 16 games ... and we play 31.

    That being said, if UK and UNC are anywhere near the bubble come the end of the season, our name and television draw will put us in the tourney over some other teams ... so I don't think it should be any big concern.

    WildcatKNH :: my NCAA Resource Center > www.knhayes.com/NCAA

    wildcatknh

  • sleepydog said...

    Im asking this question to see if anyone sees any bigtime schools on the bubble right now. Iwould consider UNC as 1 team on the bubble with only 1 win of note and that is UNLV. Other than that win they dont have 1 single quality win and they show very little improvement. My 2nd team maybe a surprise but remember it is as of now and UK certainly qualifies to be a bubble team at this point in the season. The difference between UK and UNC is that KY has shown some improvement especially in the UL game but they also cant say they have beaten a quality team. The only team of note is Maryland and are they even considered a quality team as of yet. I think UK will certainly get a bid by the end of the season b/c I believe they will be a lot better than they are now and will be a scary opponent to the higher seeds come tourney time. So come on be honest and tell me what teams you consider a bubble team at this point in the season.

    There are no bubble teams at this point. Ask this question again in about 5-6 weeks, and you'll get more serious answers.

    JDHoss

  • IMO

    IMO, "wins of note", while a factor, are not the acid test for admission to the dance. Big time programs like NC and UK will and should get in even without a major win in an OK year.

    poliglotcat

  • There are no "bubble teams," or everybody is at this point. Most teams still have close to 20 games to play. Too many things can change.

    ukblueforever

  • Sure the order of things will change between now and mid March, but the overall system will not be altered. There are teams today that will clearly be in the field, and there are teams today that barring a miracle in their post season tournaments will not be in, and if they do get in, another not so likely competitor is likely to fall out of the spot. Likewise, there is a group of teams today that are in that no-man's land between those that are and those that are not. The size of that group today is large, and as mid-March approaches, the size of that group will shrink, until the conversation converges on who will be the last 4 in and first 4 out..

    I don't think this thread was asking for a definitive statement of who those final 8 "on the bubble" teams will be, but what teams among the major conferences are positioned now to either get in or not get in.

    Those currently ranked in the 50 to 70 range fall into that category.

    In terms of the SEC, short of winning 4 or 5 straight to win the SEC Tournament, Mississippi State, South Carolina, Auburn, Georgia, Texas A&M, LSU, and Vanderbilt are not going to make it this year. Kentucky, Florida, Missouri clearly will make it, and I believe Ole Miss may be in this list at this time. That leaves Tennessee, Alabama, Mississippi (if not in the top group), and possibly Arkansas in that murky no-man's land as of the beginning of the SEC Season.

    We can all check back in around March 1, and see how well this arrangement works out for the SEC this year.

    Each of the major conferences begin their season with a similar distribution of teams. Some will be more top heavy than the SEC is this year, but even those conferences will have a middle range group of teams that will find themselves scrambling in February and early March for one of the precious spots.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by TheProfessor on 1/1/2013 at 6:49 PM

    attachment
    signature image

    http://bigbluefans4uk.com

    TheProfessor

  • ukblueforever said...

    There are no "bubble teams," or everybody is at this point. Most teams still have close to 20 games to play. Too many things can change.

    I asked this question b/c I heard a cou would simply hate to have UK in their bracket same subject and they certainly brought up UNC. I found this to be an interesting topic for discussion although it is too early to state with any amount of certainty of who will be on the bubble, but this was just a hypothetical that I proposed to see if anyone would say UK as another at this point in time bubble team and to this point I have an answer, and that is no one else thinks KYs season right now would put them on the bubble. You have to understand that I never predicted or even suggested that KY would end up being on the bubble at the end of the year just where they would be now if the season were to end now nad they certainly would be a bubble team or not even make it if the season ended tommorow. UK will be IMO a very danderous team come tourney time and Duke or Indiana both would hate to have to face KY if they were placed in the same bracket come tourney time.

    sleepydog

  • wildcatknh said...

    As Mike says, I think it's way too early to start putting teams on the bubble ... we're only about a third of the way through the season.

    Look at this year's NFL season. As late as halfway through the season, the NY Giants and the Chicago Bears were 6-2 and 7-1 respectively and both comfortably in 1st place in their divisions. Now, at the end of the year, both missed the playoffs and Washington and Minnesota are in. And that's while only playing 16 games ... and we play 31.

    That being said, if UK and UNC are anywhere near the bubble come the end of the season, our name and television draw will put us in the tourney over some other teams ... so I don't think it should be any big concern.

    This was a topic I heard 2 on air personalities bring up and they put UNC on the bubble at this point in the season so I thought it would be interesting to ask a hypothetical question to see if anyone would also put UK on the bubble at this place in the schedule. I didnt predict or even suggest that KY would end up on the bubble at the end of the season just the opposite. UK will be a much improved and very danderous team and the upper seeds will hate to get the Cats in their bracket come tourney time and I would love to be put in the same region as Indiana and let them try to beat the, by then very good KY team.

    sleepydog