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Bowl criteria is a joke

  • The criteria for getting into a bowl is a .500 he list of bowls that have come out this year underwhelms me because the criteria for being eligible for a bowl is a record of .500. Folks thats a 6-6 record. Have you seen the # of teams in a bowl with 6-6 records? There are some bowls that have 2 6-6 teams playing one another. The list is hilarious eg: Rice, V-Tech, Pitt etc. When did become ok to reward a team for being .500, it used to be teams that finished with that record was considered a so so to failing season. Now thats what a lot of teams aspire to get to so they too can go bowling. What a joke and the people who decide what criteria a team needs to be eligible for a bowl needs to raise their standards or there will be a lot more of these "HO HUM" bowl games.

    This post was edited by sleepydog on 12/4/2012 at 1:57 PM

    sleepydog

  • Agreed! Would like to see them either cut back to 11 games, eliminating one OOC cupcake, and then say "Six wins is fine" or leave it at 12 games, but tell schools that they have to win seven.

    Gridiron_Joe

  • Gridiron_Joe said...

    Agreed! Would like to see them either cut back to 11 games, eliminating one OOC cupcake, and then say "Six wins is fine" or leave it at 12 games, but tell schools that they have to win seven.

    Unfortunately mediocrity in todays society is accepted and even rewarded in all walks of life includung football. I just think the people who set up the criteria cheapen the bowls that teams play in by taking 6-6 teams. And to have 2 6-6 teams play each other, WOW. Who will watch those games except the home town fans of each team. Ky was chosen in a few bowls with a subpar record because of the fan base that follows them everywhere and would fill the stands. Other schools fans arent that loyal for the most part but still they are chosen to play in a bowl named for a business or service or something else obscure or non relevant.

    sleepydog

  • I looked at the bowl lineup yesterday and saw that Ga. Tech is playing in the Sun Bowl and they have a losing record, 6-7, after losing to FSU in the ACC championship game.

    This post was edited by ukblueforever on 12/4/2012 at 2:24 PM

    ukblueforever

  • They got the same waiver from the NCAA that UCLA did last yr after they finished 6-7 after losing to Ore. in the PAC 12 Champ game.

    CatfaninIndiana

  • ukblueforever said...

    I looked at the bowl lineup yesterday and saw that Ga. Tech is playing in the Sun Bowl and they have a losing record, 6-7, after losing to FSU in the ACC championship game.

    Thanks for the info because I hadnt seen that one yet. That just proves my assertion that the criteria is a joke. I know they played for the conference championship but a 6-7 record being rewarded, give me a break. Why didnt KY get a bowl bid with their 2-10 record remember their fans would have followed them, oops maybe they wouldnt have this year. I am really interested in knowing if there is anyone out there that thinks a 6-7 or 6-6 recoed should be rewarded with a bowl bid, please let me know and why? I dont attack people for their opinions and wouldnt do that now but I would like to hear why they feel it is alright.

    sleepydog

  • Did you see a 9-3 team missed a bowl, think it was Louisiana Tech? There should surely be a rule where 6-6 teams can only go bowling if all the teams with 7+ wins have already been selected!

    This post was edited by QueenLizzysWildcat on 12/4/2012 at 3:19 PM

    QueenLizzysWildcat

  • From a school's perspective I only see one negative with the current bowl system and that is that the school must sell their quota of tickets or pay for the unsold balance. Other than that the positives are great. More money to the conference to split to the member teams, 2 more weeks of practice, etc. If someone is going to sponsor the bowls then it's all good. I will agree that watching some of the matchups is not enticing but no one forces us to. Once again if someone is willing to continue to pony up the money for the {Insert Obscure Company Name Here} Bowl then this will continue to happen.

    bmac

  • bmac said...

    From a school's perspective I only see one negative with the current bowl system and that is that the school must sell their quota of tickets or pay for the unsold balance. Other than that the positives are great. More money to the conference to split to the member teams, 2 more weeks of practice, etc. If someone is going to sponsor the bowls then it's all good. I will agree that watching some of the matchups is not enticing but no one forces us to. Once again if someone is willing to continue to pony up the money for the {Insert Obscure Company Name Here} Bowl then this will continue to happen.

    Your correct about if there is a company to sponsor a bowl with their name on it then these .500 record and below teams will still be invited. Like someone mentioned take the 9-3 LA Tech team, I would much rather watch them score 50 pts than watch Rice or Pitt or anyone of the other 6-6 teams that were invited to 1 of the ".500" bowls.

    sleepydog

  • If you don't like 'em ...

    ... don't watch 'em.

    But to complain on the proliferation of bowls and rain on other folks enjoyment is just bad form.

    IamRV

  • How about MTSU of the Sun Belt going 8-4 with wins at WKU (who finished 7-5 and going to a bowl game) and at Georgia Tech by over 20 (who is going bowling at 6-7).

    That is messed up.

    BGEnforcer

  • The reason La Tech is not in a bowl is they were invited to one of the bowls (my memory fails me now) but asked for more time as they thought they were being invited to other ones. They were given a time to answer the bowl invite and did not respond in time and the bowl moved on.

    "La Tech athletic director Bruce Van De Velde told The Associated Press that Independence Bowl organizers offered a spot in their game on Saturday afternoon, but the Bulldogs had other possible options still available to them. Van De Velde said he asked the Independence Bowl for more time to make a decision, but was told by game organizers that they couldn’t wait."

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by bkalla1538 on 12/4/2012 at 4:34 PM

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  • BGEnforcer said...

    How about MTSU of the Sun Belt going 8-4 with wins at WKU (who finished 7-5 and going to a bowl game) and at Georgia Tech by over 20 (who is going bowling at 6-7).

    That is messed up.

    Thats a point that reinforces what I have alluded to in this thread. agreed

    sleepydog

  • bkalla1538 said...

    The reason La Tech is not in a bowl is they were invited to one of the bowls (my memory fails me now) but asked for more time as they thought they were being invited to other ones. They were given a time to answer the bowl invite and did not respond in time and the bowl moved on.

    Thanks for the info. I hadnt heard that. They made their bed so now they will have to lie in it. Again thanks for the info.

    sleepydog

  • to be blunt,

    the criteria of bowl eligibility is effing stupid.

    Making a bowl game means nothing.

    Is there more bowl games than conference championship?

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    Wildmoon

  • sleepydog said...

    Unfortunately mediocrity in todays society is accepted and even rewarded in all walks of life includung football.

    I am sorry but you can not say "mediocrity" any more because that word can hurt people's feelings. You may however say "insufficiently spectacular performance" instead. There, doesn't that make for a better world we may all enjoy? Group hug, please.

    Signed, Bleeding Heart.bs_sign

    poliglotcat

  • Um, it's arithmetic. There didn't used to be near as many bowls, therefore they could be very selective. With a lot more bowls, they have to take teams with records that would have never made it in the olden days. Things have changed; get over it.

    KingsportKat

  • poliglotcat said...

    I am sorry but you can not say "mediocrity" any more because that word can hurt people's feelings. You may however say "insufficiently spectacular performance" instead. There, doesn't that make for a better world we may all enjoy? Group hug, please.

    Signed, Bleeding Heart.bs_sign

    That is better than saying 'mediocrity" oops there I go again.funnypost

    This post was edited by sleepydog on 12/4/2012 at 5:57 PM

    sleepydog

  • IamRV said...

    If you don't like 'em ...

    ... don't watch 'em.

    But to complain on the proliferation of bowls and rain on other folks enjoyment is just bad form.

    Exactly. I'm pretty sure that no one is forced to watch, although I will probably watch at least some if not all of every one that I can. Hell,there's probably too many teams in the NCAA basketball tournament, but it doesn't detract from my enjoyment of it.

    JDHoss

  • Not sure of the circumstances as to why, but I think MTSU declined a bowl invitation.

    CatfaninIndiana

  • JDHoss said...

    Exactly. I'm pretty sure that no one is forced to watch, although I will probably watch at least some if not all of every one that I can. Hell,there's probably too many teams in the NCAA basketball tournament, but it doesn't detract from my enjoyment of it.

    Are there many teams in the B-BALL tourney with .500 or 15-15 records. There is occasionally an upset by a team with an .500 or worse record but those are few and far between.

    sleepydog

  • I hate the bowls. When I was a kid they were played New Years Day. Period. I'm old school enough to still remember being light headed for a day or two afterwards from watching one after another all day. I can accept they drag them out to give each major bowl a national stage leading up to the NC. But there is no way in hell the BBVA bowl should be played the day before the National Championship. Get that crap over with early. If everybody wants to have a bowl then start scheduling them in mid December. Get rid of Georgia Tech at 6-7 early on so it's not even a memory. And get rid of the bowl/conference affiliations. Either that or add 3 more bowl games and let everybody play one.
    They used to mean something special.

    BenSam

  • BenSam said...

    I hate the bowls. When I was a kid they were played New Years Day. Period. I'm old school enough to still remember being light headed for a day or two afterwards from watching one after another all day. I can accept they drag them out to give each major bowl a national stage leading up to the NC. But there is no way in hell the BBVA bowl should be played the day before the National Championship. Get that crap over with early. If everybody wants to have a bowl then start scheduling them in mid December. Get rid of Georgia Tech at 6-7 early on so it's not even a memory. And get rid of the bowl/conference affiliations. Either that or add 3 more bowl games and let everybody play one. They used to mean something special.

    Im old school also but the bowls that have 2 teams deserving of being there are good ones to watch. Im not telling anyone to not watch a bowl game if they want to. I dont care if someone watches all of them but the thing I object to is that teams that have losing records or .500 records are like participation trophies in syncronized swimming tourneys they just dont mean much. If they want that many teams in that many bowls go to a true playoff system and attach a company name to each playoff game and then have the final bowl as the NC game. I just think it waters down the importance of 2 teams meeting in a bowl if 1 or both are .500 or sub .500 teams.

    This post was edited by sleepydog on 12/4/2012 at 8:18 PM

    sleepydog

  • sleepydog said...

    The criteria for getting into a bowl is a .500 he list of bowls that have come out this year underwhelms me because the criteria for being eligible for a bowl is a record of .500. Folks thats a 6-6 record. Have you seen the # of teams in a bowl with 6-6 records? There are some bowls that have 2 6-6 teams playing one another. The list is hilarious eg: Rice, V-Tech, Pitt etc. When did become ok to reward a team for being .500, it used to be teams that finished with that record was considered a so so to failing season. Now thats what a lot of teams aspire to get to so they too can go bowling. What a joke and the people who decide what criteria a team needs to be eligible for a bowl needs to raise their standards or there will be a lot more of these "HO HUM" bowl games.

    So if UK wins 6 games next yr you do not like the idea of us going bowling ???????

    It helps the kids get better in football by haveing a ton of xtra practices. It helps the school get more money for the programs.

    A win win I do think.

    If you dont like those games just dont watch them nor pay them any attention.

    I dont worry about things that do not concern me or UK.

    dvillepro1

  • BenSam said...

    I hate the bowls. When I was a kid they were played New Years Day. Period. I'm old school enough to still remember being light headed for a day or two afterwards from watching one after another all day. I can accept they drag them out to give each major bowl a national stage leading up to the NC. But there is no way in hell the BBVA bowl should be played the day before the National Championship. Get that crap over with early. If everybody wants to have a bowl then start scheduling them in mid December. Get rid of Georgia Tech at 6-7 early on so it's not even a memory. And get rid of the bowl/conference affiliations. Either that or add 3 more bowl games and let everybody play one. They used to mean something special.

    They still do to teams that have not been to one in 20 yrs or so.

    The bowls are to help the schools and the kids playing.

    dvillepro1