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  • shauner17 said...

    I'm not crying and I am giving them up and I'm sure a lot of others are too. Attendance against non "UNC, UL IU" types is around 22,900 (most of those are because people pay the $1800 per year for games like UNC / UL & IU) while attendance with those teams coming in is around 24,400. I live outside Lexington and have to watch games on a tape delay when they don't sell out. Which most especially the ones through the week against sub 65 RPI teams don't sell out.

    I'm just saying, if they don't lower prices then Rupp will keep getting lower and lower in attendance and fall behind Syracuse and UL. Don't try and give me the crap that people will buy my tickets and on and on because people that had a chance to go to a game in Freedom Hall and buy tickets without a guarantee to see other great games didn't show. The attendance at Freedom Hall for that game was 14,000 this year. Results will be similar at Rupp with no "BIG" games year in and year out. Not to mention I couldn't even give my tickets away to games if I had to go out of town for any of the games I talked about above.

    Just my two cents...

    If you are indeed a season ticket holder and if indeed your seriously givin them up please PM me. Ill give you my email and I will gladly take them off your hands. Season tix have been sold out for years and have years upon years of a waiting list. I just moved to Oklahoma City 2 weeks ago but would still absolutely buy em and go to games.

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  • I doubt he is a season ticket holder. He is a person who likes to complain.

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  • hoptownukfan said...

    I posted this in another thread. Name another team who had home and home's With three programs like uofl, iu and unc. You can't. We are the rare program who's rivals are not in our conference.

    Well, you said it best: UK is a rare program. They're not supposed to be like other people.

    I can understand not wanting to put too much on a new group of kids every year, but that's part of the deal when you recruit like he does.

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  • Lets get freakin real. This won't hurt ticket sales in the least but it still sucks from a fans perspective. The IU series was just now starting to ratchet up a little back to the good old days. The UNC series was an elite series. Probably the two best programs ever when you look at it from all angles taking on each other every year. The bright side is we'll still get some good games every year on a neutral floor like Duke this year, Kansas last year and UCONN the year before that.

    tWhit ●

  • Jeff Drummond said...

    Well, you said it best: UK is a rare program. They're not supposed to be like other people.

    I can understand not wanting to put too much on a new group of kids every year, but that's part of the deal when you recruit like he does.

    Duke, Unc, ku, uconn... All of our "peers" don't do it, I'm struggling as to why we owe it to those other programs?

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  • tWhit said...

    Lets get freakin real. This won't hurt ticket sales in the least but it still sucks from a fans perspective. The IU series was just now starting to ratchet up a little back to the good old days. The UNC series was an elite series. Probably the two best programs ever when you look at it from all angles taking on each other every year. The bright side is we'll still get some good games every year on a neutral floor like Duke this year, Kansas last year and UCONN the year before that.

    Yeah. Kind of a trade off. I'll withhold final judgment until I see who they add to the schedule and how next year's team benefits from the changes. Like I said earlier, if they win, nobody's going to remember any of this. cool

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  • Man, this place gets more and more like the old catspause everyday. It's fine if you guys want to disagree with Schauner, but why do some of you have to act like such duechbags about it? Argue your freakin point. Why do you have to insult the guy, and everybody else you choose to disagree with? Grow the hell up!

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    duechbags

    Is that some German word?

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  • deutschebags

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  • hoptownukfan said...

    Duke, Unc, ku, uconn... All of our "peers" don't do it, I'm struggling as to why we owe it to those other programs?

    All I'm saying is UK shouldn't operate based on what other people are doing. If you're the best, act like the best. Hold yourself to a different standard.

    That said, I can see why Cal may not want to bite off all three of those rivals AND play 2-3 other top programs every year. It can be too much for what is expected to be a young team every year.

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  • Why are we so quick to assume that IU/UNC games are going to end?

    It's not like Coach Roy came out publicly said "we are not have any matches against UK anymore." In fact both side have said that once this realignment season is over, they can look it over and probably start the matches again.

    IU conversation is still happening, it's not like this has completely ended. There is nothing that says we won't have IU game next year yet, because the schedule is not completed yet. Something can still happen.

    and...just last year Coach Cal added the rotation of Kansas/Duke/Michigan State to the rotation.

    The argument that we won't have UL/IU/UNC games are stupid, because we have no idea. We may not have IU/UNC next year, but we could have other top colleges. That would be good enough. Some of you act like IU were good for past 5 years. Last few years it's been UNC and UL. Funny part is UNC wasn't good 09-10 season. UL wasn't good 09-10, 10-11 season. No one were complaining about the value then...

    Now all of sudden IU/UL/UNC are all expected to be good, we now start the argument..if we are the best why won't we play them all? (we haven't in a LONGGG time..)

    Adding Duke to the mix, i doubt any school has played 4 teams that could be in top 10 in OoC game.

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  • Wildmoon said...

    Why are we so quick to assume that IU/UNC games are going to end?

    It's not like Coach Roy came out publicly said "we are not have any matches against UK anymore." In fact both side have said that once this realignment season is over, they can look it over and probably start the matches again.

    IU conversation is still happening, it's not like this has completely ended. There is nothing that says we won't have IU game next year yet, because the schedule is not completed yet. Something can still happen.

    and...just last year Coach Cal added the rotation of Kansas/Duke/Michigan State to the rotation.

    The argument that we won't have UL/IU/UNC games are stupid, because we have no idea. We may not have IU/UNC next year, but we could have other top colleges. That would be good enough. Some of you act like IU were good for past 5 years. Last few years it's been UNC and UL. Funny part is UNC wasn't good 09-10 season. UL wasn't good 09-10, 10-11 season. No one were complaining about the value then...

    Now all of sudden IU/UL/UNC are all expected to be good, we now start the argument..if we are the best why won't we play them all? (we haven't in a LONGGG time..)

    Adding Duke to the mix, i doubt any school has played 4 teams that could be in top 10 in OoC game.

    That were(lol) one of the strangest posts I've ever read. From a fans perspective it just kinda sucks that we probably won't play UNC or IU every year like we have for the last several years. What made those games fun for the fans was the combination of history and rivalry. It didn't matter if they were top 10 teams or not. I always got excited for those two games as I'm sure everyone else did. At the same time its easy to see why Cal did what he did. He's the coach so he has to consider a slew of other things outside of fan excitement. If you don't understand that then your just looking for reasons to criticize. But like I said it STILL SUCKS.

    This post was edited by tWhit on 5/8/2012 at 5:37 AM

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  • good grief!! when we hang #9 are there those who will complain about how long it took!! go outside and kick something (inanimate, not the dog) hope you break your foot you whining bunch of 2 year olds.

    Mr Big56220

  • good grief!! when we hang #9 are there those who will complain about how long it took!! go outside and kick something (inanimate, not the dog) hope you break your foot you whining bunch of 2 year olds.

    Mr Big56220

  • Jeff Drummond said...

    Yeah. Kind of a trade off. I'll withhold final judgment until I see who they add to the schedule and how next year's team benefits from the changes. Like I said earlier, if they win, nobody's going to remember any of this.

    ^ You hit the nail on the head right there JDrumm. Everybody will utlimately judge this new "scheduling" concept based on how the cats handle it this year and probably next year.

    Let's be honest though, this only hurts UK in perception among the pundits not in ticket sales. RUPP has always been sold out even during the bleakest of days. That is not going to change all of a sudden.

    I love playing IU, UNC, UofL every year to show off our team and see how we match up against other "top tier" programs. As much I will miss these series and hate seeing the pundits take shots at our scheduling if this is what Coach Cal believes is best for the program at this point, I will defer to his judgement. The man just won us a national title and is the midst of a run that hasn't been seen at UK since the mid 90s (1 Elite 8, 2 FFs, 1 Title- keep this up and the run of the 90s might be equalled). GBB!!

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  • Jeff Drummond said...

    Yeah. Kind of a trade off. I'll withhold final judgment until I see who they add to the schedule and how next year's team benefits from the changes. Like I said earlier, if they win, nobody's going to remember any of this.

    ^ You hit the nail on the head right there JDrumm. Everybody will utlimately judge this new "scheduling" concept based on how the cats handle it this year and probably next year.

    Let's be honest though, this only hurts UK in perception among the pundits not in ticket sales. RUPP has always been sold out even during the bleakest of days. That is not going to change all of a sudden.

    I love playing IU, UNC, UofL every year to show off our team and see how we match up against other "top tier" programs. As much I will miss these series and hate seeing the pundits take shots at our scheduling if this is what Coach Cal believes is best for the program at this point, I will defer to his judgement. The man just won us a national title and is the midst of a run that hasn't been seen at UK since the mid 90s (1 Elite 8, 2 FFs, 1 Title- keep this up and the run of the 90s might be equalled). GBB!!

    eagle_man

  • All I'm saying is if there were two packets of tickets laying on the table, one including tickets to an IU and UNC game and one with all sub 65 RPI teams would you think they are worth the same amount of $? HELL NO!!!! PERIOD!!!!

    And yes I am a season ticket holder. I shell out $1800 dollars a season for tickets 6 rows from the top of Rupp to go see a team that I love every game and obviously none of you are or (you're down in the lower bowl and can't see for the lights) or you would have seen all the empty seats in the upper arena this season for all these no name games. I like to go see my team play teams that will at least make it a good game.

    Facts are facts! 22,000 average attendance for games not UL, IU or UNC versus 24,000+ average attendance for the three mentioned. YOU TELL ME, IS RUPP SOLD OUT FOR THOSE GAMES?!

    For the guy above that acts like he knows something about season tickets and says there is this LONG waiting list should know there is no waiting list. UK holds a lottery every year for season tickets. So if you want them put your name in. I got them in one year so it must not be too damn loaded with names...

    I see people on here all the time talking about how terrible dUKes home schedule is and how the never play anyone so they don't lose at Cameron. Well, welcome to the party. We are now the same.

    shauner17

  • shauner17 said...

    All I'm saying is if there were two packets of tickets laying on the table, one including tickets to an IU and UNC game and one with all sub 65 RPI teams would you think they are worth the same amount of $? HELL NO!!!! PERIOD!!!!

    And yes I am a season ticket holder. I shell out $1800 dollars a season for tickets 6 rows from the top of Rupp to go see a team that I love every game and obviously none of you are or (you're down in the lower bowl and can't see for the lights) or you would have seen all the empty seats in the upper arena this season for all these no name games. I like to go see my team play teams that will at least make it a good game.

    Facts are facts! 22,000 average attendance for games not UL, IU or UNC versus 24,000+ average attendance for the three mentioned. YOU TELL ME, IS RUPP SOLD OUT FOR THOSE GAMES?!

    For the guy above that acts like he knows something about season tickets and says there is this LONG waiting list should know there is no waiting list. UK holds a lottery every year for season tickets. So if you want them put your name in. I got them in one year so it must not be too damn loaded with names...

    I see people on here all the time talking about how terrible dUKes home schedule is and how the never play anyone so they don't lose at Cameron. Well, welcome to the party. We are now the same.

    Again, not true Shauner. There is a lottery for a limited # of nose bleed seats. That lottery has way more people than seats. Uk will never have trouble selling all of their season tickets as long as we are a top
    20 program.

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  • I thought John Clay had a very good point in a web column he posted today -- the one thing that I think comes across as ridiculous in this whole thing is Calipari now claiming UK is a 'non-traditional' program. What? Isn't this the school that screams in the arena before every home game, '...home of the greatest tradition in the history of college basketball'? Isn't tradition what Kentucky fans hold more dear than anything else, the thing they always point to that separates them from everyone else?

    I don't mind that these series are ending, that's Kentucky and Calipari's choice. They've earned the right to do what they want, and I don't even believe they're necessarily wrong for doing it. But this whole 'we're a non-traditional program' is absurd. Calipari is one of the few coaches that has earned the right to not have to apologize for what he wants to do, so just say you don't want to play non-conference games on an opponent's home floor. Don't make stuff up to make it sound better.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Matt May on 5/8/2012 at 9:28 AM

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  • Matt May said...

    I thought John Clay had a very good point in a web column he posted today -- the one thing that I think comes across as ridiculous in this whole thing is Calipari now claiming UK is a 'non-traditional' program. What? Isn't this the school that screams in the arena before every home game, '...home of the greatest tradition in the history of college basketball'? Isn't tradition what Kentucky fans hold more dear than anything else, the thing they always point to that separates them from everyone else?

    I don't mind that these series are ending, that's Kentucky and Calipari's choice. They've earned the right to do what they want, and I don't even believe they're necessarily wrong for doing it. But this whole 'we're a non-traditional program' is absurd. Calipari is one of the few coaches that has earned the right to not have to apologize for what he wants to do, so just say you don't want to play non-conference games on an opponent's home floor. Don't make stuff up to make it sound better.

    Makes a good point.

    All Calipari really had to say was that with such extreme roster turnover, they need flexibility in their scheduling and can't get locked into long-term deals.

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  • Matt May said...

    I thought John Clay had a very good point in a web column he posted today -- the one thing that I think comes across as ridiculous in this whole thing is Calipari now claiming UK is a 'non-traditional' program. What? Isn't this the school that screams in the arena before every home game, '...home of the greatest tradition in the history of college basketball'? Isn't tradition what Kentucky fans hold more dear than anything else, the thing they always point to that separates them from everyone else?

    I don't mind that these series are ending, that's Kentucky and Calipari's choice. They've earned the right to do what they want, and I don't even believe they're necessarily wrong for doing it. But this whole 'we're a non-traditional program' is absurd. Calipari is one of the few coaches that has earned the right to not have to apologize for what he wants to do, so just say you don't want to play non-conference games on an opponent's home floor. Don't make stuff up to make it sound better.

    Totally with you, Matt!

    John Clay is right. Don't call it a "Non-Traditional" program. It is THE "Traditional" program.

    Call it a "Gold Standard" program, a "Trend Setting" program, etc.,etc.

    "Non-Traditional" is a poor choice of words.

    Cal is human afterall.

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