The House of Blue

Chapman is the only one that I think would be of any help this year. Graffree is 3years away from helping and Newton 2, imo.

Yes I did and I suggest this post for anyone that is really interested in discussing football instead of the standard the team and Joker sucks fare that is prevelent on this board.

Todd always has good information and opinions and shows he accually knows something about the game. I always read his post and am better informed because of it.

I see Todd as a heady ex football player that lacked either the size or athletism to make it at the top level of football. How close am I Todd.?

In our scheme we play with 1 DT in passing downs and with 2 other downs. 6-7 is a stretch. 4-5 is more like it. A rotation of four is what is used by most teams. Of course we are likely to have an injury or two throughout the year. But our coaches will go into game one with 5 dt's available and hoping to only have to play 4.

hop,

I'm not on here to argue, i'm on here to get info about UK football and provide as accurate info as I can. The truth is (like you and others stated) we use 2 DT types every play in our base package, one being a 330# NG. A NG is a 0-1 technique player that is strong enough to demand a double team every single play, the Hyde kid is perfect here, he is without a doubt the best DT we have added for this scheme on paper... The other DT is Donte Rumph, he's playing a 2-3 tech. He is a one gap player (in our scheme). A good 3 tech needs to be very disruptive/quick/strong, Pearson would have been perfect for this... The other (inside) D-lineman is a 5 tech, in ideal circumstances he is much like a long leaner version of a 3 tech. He is anywhere from 6'3-6'6 270-310#...

As of right now we don't have many true 5 tech's. However Minter is trying to use a 1 gap player here, so these guys will have to give max effort every play or we will struggle to stop anyone and since our 5's are smaller than most other 34 teams we will have to rotate more bodies. Yes Coleman or Rumph may be able to do this... In truth a regular DT can play here but like I said you want a long lean very athletic DT... The other two guys that are on the line against Power running formations are a Hybrid Sam OLB that is anywhere from 6'1-6'5 (215-245# in our scheme, most the time will be on the small end of that because they will be used all over the field in countless roles in coverage). The other player on the LOS is a Hybrid DE-OLB "Rush-Backer" known as a "Jack" backer in 99% of 34 defenses... These guys will be anywhere from 6'2-6'5 240-270#. This player will drop in coverage but only about 5-10 times a game. Courtney Upshaw played this spot in BAMA's 34 defense... I am yet to see this player play in man coverage any at all so this guy can be your normal very athletic, pass-rushing, Weak side-DE in most cases.

You are 100% correct in a perfect world we only need 4, but the SEC is far from that... So you really do need about 5-6 atleast, all the good teams have 5-6 good ones. "You can never have to many good DT's" I know you have heard that cliche... You remember the Vandy game? At one point we were down to our 6th DT... IMO this defense is going to be harder to recruit for than the 4-3, you must have very good depth and quality at NG and ILB, you need to be able to set a "HARD EDGE" for this defense to stop the Off-Tackle play. That's why I wish we had a mature Daniel Ross type that is ripped, roaren and ready to go in the 5-tech on 1st, 2nd down and inside on 3rd and long...

Hop, we will be lucky if we only have to use 4, not trying to be a smart A__ but if you want to place a friendly wager on it we will, I go to all the home games and I would gladly hand you a 20$ bill if we never go beyond T, Johnson or Chapman as our 4th... I'm willing to bet at one point we will be playing Pat G and maybe even Inanzala that would put us at number 7... I hope that's not the case though... This past year we had Douglas at SE, Luke at NG and Glenn in the 3 tech against Vandy. Cobble, Rumph, Crawford and Coleman were all ahead of them then... One could say the reason our D-line stayed so wore out was due to all the snaps, either way 320+#ers need rest and can not play the snaps guys like Peters did...

GO CATS!!!

C1180 you are right, I wasn't big enough... I knew mid ways through HS I wasn't a D-1 football player. You can bet your house I would have been a wild-cat if I would have been bigger. As a freshman I was 5'4 124#, worked hard and finally hit a growing spurt my soph year and by my SR year I was 5'11 215# but still not big enough to play LB in the SEC. I did have average LB speed, (4.7 40)... Catspause player of the week once back in 2002, 42 carries for 288 yards...

RIght now there is a kid that plays at my HS, I would give anything if I had his size and support. His name is Dalton Overbay, he's a legit 6'3 240+# and runs a 4.6/4.7 40. I saw him the other day I could tell he had grown and got bigger. I talked to one of his coach's and he told me that Miss St and WKU are starting to show him alot of attention. They were playing him at MLB but moved him to DE and he seemed to do alot better. The only knock I have against him when comparing him to other D-1 prospects like Hyde or the Canady kid is he plays in class A football against very weak comp and has never played a complete season or put up eye popping numbers like he should and trust me his coach is the type that would hand it off to him 40 times a game like he did me... He's one of those kids that looks great and performs very well in shorts but when it's live things change alittle.

He has heard that alot as of late and not just by me, so I look for him to go out and prove he's worthy of a D-1 scholarship. I actually think he's a dark horse for a UK SS if everything goes well for him he could be one of those DJ Warren or Sterling Wright's from what i've been told... I really hope he does do well his SR, I would hate to see all that potential go to waste. I would love to see a kid from my old HS playing at UK. If he ever does flip the switch and start playing with alittle more intensity and toughness the sky is the limit for him at 6'3 240# with that much athleticism...

Todd,

Is it possible that Forrest could grow into that faster ILB. Seems to definitely have the athleticism and the height to be a real beast if he can add the weight and strength or do you see a guy like Brause playing alongside Avery at ILB?

Well, I have nothing against George, but I don't think he's a legit starting SEC bruiser like we'll be trying to stop each week. Do you? The way I see it, if our #1 D can't stop oure #3 rb, who has a bunch of inexperienced, back up o-linemnen blocking for him, I do see it as more than a bit of a concern. Call me pessimistic or LOD if you wish. I call it realistic. Hopefully, our D will do a better job stopping the run this season, but like many things with UK football, I'll have to see the change before I just blindly believe some pre-season hype.

Some of you guys criticze any post that doesn't just slobber and carry on about how fantastic UK football is? Keep on lying to yourselves if you wish, but when I see a legitimate concern, it concerns me. Sorry if you can't handle the truth.