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Can anyone defend Joker after this disgrace?

  • Big Sarge said...

    3 years ago Strong took over a horrible team with almost zero talent.....

    3 years ago Joker took over a team coming off multiple bowl victories and 2 years removed from a top 10 ranking......

    Do you really wish to frame your argument with such blatant fallacies and inaccuracies?

    MoC

  • bluecatntn said...

    10) UL lived up to its billing. They're a legit Top 25 team, probably better than Vandy, Florida, Tennessee, Mizzou and maybe even SCarolina. They're better offensively than any of those teams and if they shore up the run defense, they'll be awefully hard to beat. I say this, because I think UK has a better chance of beating these SEC teams than they did UL, because those teams aren't near as potent offensively.

    No, I'm not buying this.

    Reasonable points otherwise, though.

    BlueGhost

  • bluecatntn said...

    10) UL lived up to its billing. They're a legit Top 25 team, probably better than Vandy, Florida, Tennessee, Mizzou and maybe even SCarolina. They're better offensively than any of those teams and if they shore up the run defense, they'll be awefully hard to beat. I say this, because I think UK has a better chance of beating these SEC teams than they did UL, because those teams aren't near as potent offensively.

    This is insanity. UL isn't better than any of the teams you listed in any facet of the game. Well, I have to confess that I didn't watch Mizzou this weekend, but every single one of the teams you listed would have had much more success stopping our offense than UL did.

    As for UL's offense? They went absolutely unchallenged by our defense today. Possibly the worst defensive performance I've seen in a long time for an FBS program playing another FBS program. They may be worldbeaters, but they certainly did not have to prove it today.

    JDHLaw11

  • JDHLaw11 said...

    This is insanity. UL isn't better than any of the teams you listed in any facet of the game. Well, I have to confess that I didn't watch Mizzou this weekend, but every single one of the teams you listed would have had much more success stopping our offense than UL did.

    As for UL's offense? They went absolutely unchallenged by our defense today. Possibly the worst defensive performance I've seen in a long time for an FBS program playing another FBS program. They may be worldbeaters, but they certainly did not have to prove it today.

    I disagree. Teddy bridge water was outstanding. He hit guys on the money all day. He may be the 2nd best qb we play all year after Aaron Murray. Make no mistake. An average qb like bray, Rodgers etc. misses some of those 3rd down throws
    And we get off the field. He is very good.

    We made him look good a lot today but he also played nearly perfect. Put will stein out there and take away our two/one turnovers and you have a nail biter.

    hoptownukfan

  • Bridgewater was good. But that doesn't necessarily mean UofL lived up to their billing. They'll win the Big East, go to a BCS bowl, and then their defense will get absolutely shredded. Especially if we're talking an Alabama or LSU if two SEC teams don't make it in to the BCSCG.

    WildcatBelle

  • I don't think UK can sustain a no huddle, 50 pass per game offense all season. I hope Joker has some other items in his play book.

    UK did not rush the ball particularly well, but it didn't really seem like they tried.

    UK's pass rush was weak. Got through a couple of times, but generally speaking Bridgewater had all the time in the world to throw.

    UK was effective while in the no huddle at catching our defense out of position. Again, I don't think UK can do this all season and expect success.

    Maxwell Smith was the right choice at QB.

    cardsfan44

  • cardsfan44 said...

    I don't think UK can sustain a no huddle, 50 pass per game offense all season. I hope Joker has some other items in his play book.

    UK did not rush the ball particularly well, but it didn't really seem like they tried.

    UK's pass rush was weak. Got through a couple of times, but generally speaking Bridgewater had all the time in the world to throw.

    UK was effective while in the no huddle at catching our defense out of position. Again, I don't think UK can do this all season and expect success.

    Maxwell Smith was the right choice at QB.

    We actually ran the ball really well when it was designed. Combined our running backs averaged over 8 yards a carry. Take away the sacks and we have over 100 yards on just 14 carries. Our offense was fine.
    If you guys play a team that can put pressure on bridge water and has
    An offense as good as
    Ours who doesn't turn it over you could lose. Problem is, your schedule is an absolute joke.

    This post was edited by hoptownukfan on 9/2/2012 at 8:26 PM

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  • hoptownukfan said...

    I disagree. Teddy bridge water was outstanding. He hit guys on the money all day. He may be the 2nd best qb we play all year after Aaron Murray. Make no mistake. An average qb like bray, Rodgers etc. misses some of those 3rd down throws And we get off the field. He is very good.

    He just tossed balls to wide open receivers 18/20 times, threw a good ball to a covered receiver where our CB never looked for it or challenged the WR, and he threw it away once. He had no or very little pressure during the entire game.

    I'm not saying he isn't the greatest quarterback in the nation, but any D1 QB worth his salt puts up virtually the exact same numbers against UK today. He'll have to play a defense that doesn't allow him to check to his 4th and 5th read while somehow simultaneously allowing a 5 yard halo around every WR before I consider him "outstanding."

    JDHLaw11

  • Bridgewater was very good. Ya'll can say what you want and downgrade his performance, but, his reads, decision making and accurracy was outstanding. Not every QB we'll face will make all the right decisions like he did today. Also, the UL OL is very good at giving him protection. Granted, UKs DL was not applying any pressure, but, maybe, just maybe, ULs OL is really good. I thinks it's a combination of both. I know alot of you hate to say anything except negative remarks about UL and would rather say how bad we are then give them an ounce of credit, but, let's be real here. There's a reason they're ranked and it has nothing to do with being in the BEast. If anything, that fact would be held against them and yes, Bama or LSU would shred there defense, but, they'd shred nearly every other teams defense, too. Also, there defense would hold ULs offense down, but, again, those 2 teams would hold nearly everyones offense down. That's why they're in the Top 3-4 teams in the country and I'm not putting UL in that category, by any means, but, they're deserving of a Top 25 ranking. Bridgewater is the real deal and he makes them a very dangerous team.

    bluecatntn

  • The team with the best talent won tonight.

    MinterWonderlnd

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  • hoptownukfan said...

    Joker can't be excused for the defense being incredibly unsound and his decision to sit on the ball at the end of the first half. Also can't excuse the decision to not kick the field Goal with 10+ minutes left to cut it to two scores.

    The bright spot is that we are obviously much better on offense.

    In terms of those folks saying we can't throw the ball downfield. That just isn't true. Uofl was giving us the underneath routes and we were taking them. Did you notice how much room our receivers had to run before somebody came up? That's because they were playing WAY deep. No sense in forcing it down field.

    Agreed. Max can throw the deep ball. You can tell by the way he throws other passes. He let one rip in traffic today that was beautiful. UL was keeping a safety way back patrolling for the deep ball. Which is part of the reason why the run game was effective. If we don't fumble on those two drives we probably score. Sanders looked quick today and Coshik ran effective. So offensively we'll be OK as long as the Oline is healthy and the backs improve their pass blocking.

    Of course Joker can't be excused for the D. Thats pretty obvious. We've got to improve in a major way defensively. The Dline was pitiful, Bud and Simpson did next to nothing. Those are guys at positions where we need to make some plays, TFL and sacks. They did none of that. Our coverage was the worst I've seen. Passes were completed and guys were 10 yards away. I don't know if we're just slower then I thought we were, if guys were loafing or scheme wise we were seriously lacking. I'm really not sure.

    tWhit

  • Our D was terrible no question but Bridgewater is the real deal. He's as good of passer as there is in College Football. The only QB we'll play this year better than Bridgewater is Tyler Wilson from Arky.

    tWhit

  • TNCatfanforever said...

    Poor game plan, no motivation, out classed and badly out talented. Joker has set this program back 5 years from where Rich Brooks left it.

    Can there be a rule or something that says NO ONE in Tenn can be a UK catfan?

    UKlaw82

  • Big Sarge said...

    1) You are not watching the game, or 2) This is your first ever football game. Which is it?

    UL has out played UK on offense, out played UK on defense, out coach UK on both sides of the ball, been more aggressive, played with more motivation, taken advantage of opportunities, etc.....

    So, what are you "Seriously" talking about cause I am confused? shrug

    na

    This post was edited by UKlaw82 on 9/2/2012 at 11:01 PM

    UKlaw82

  • People had it right last year before UK beat UT. Before that game pretty much everyone was calling for Joker to be fired as he should be. Then suddenly everyone jumped back on the Joker bandwagon cause he beat a horrible UT team in the midst of an exodus. He should have been fired last year. He's a good OC and a horrible HC. Some people just don't have what it takes to be a HC. Joker is one of those people. You can see it in a lot of his interviews. He knows he's in over his head. I predicted 3 wins this year and got my head bit off for it. Nothing I saw today changed my mind on that prediction. Except maybe I was too kind. Just pathetic.

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    CarlLexington

  • Bridgewater is not the 2nd best qb we'll play. At best he's 4th. Wilson,Bray,and Murray are all better than bridgewater.

    jeffries123

  • I don't care how good a QB is no one should ever complete 90% of their passes on you. That's flat embarassing! The defense looked totally lost yesterday! Brause is probably a really smart football player but he doesn't have the speed to be D-1 linebacker.Cobble and Rumph didn't even show up. The secondary well just see the 90% above. If your going to play that bad just play all young guys so they can learn in actual game situations.

    On the other side though the offense actually didn't look bad. They had to play from behind all day. Smith played well even though UL knew he was going to throw the ball almost every snap. The fumbles just can't happen. Williams and Sanders are nice situational backs but not every down backs. UK has to play Clemons, Mobley and Taylor when going for the tough yards. Also thought the 0-line played well yesterday.

    This post was edited by footballcat65 on 9/3/2012 at 9:00 AM

    footballcat65

  • UKlaw82 said...

    Can there be a rule or something that says NO ONE in Tenn can be a UK catfan?

    Right now UK Football needs every fan it can get. From Tennessee or not!

    Cumberlandcat

  • The most disspointing aspect of yesterday was the discrepency in level of physical play. UL was so much more physical than UK in every key matchup. Their offensive line (3 true sophmores) absolutely mauled our big, veteran defensive front. It was that way all over the field.

    So tired of all this "bigger, stronger, faster" talk coming from Joker and Rock Oliver. Our guys got absolutey shoved around all day by a Big East team comprised of mostly sophmores and only 10 seniors on the entire roster.

    Both Strong and Joker took over their programs at the same exact time. The direction each program has taken since that time can't be denied or argued. Strong and his staff of former UF assistants that were hand picked by Urban Meyer when he was at UF have lapped Joker and his staff every step along the way since the day they were hired.

    MinterWonderlnd

  • Drew Barker was at the game and is apparetnly very high on UL now. Why has UK decided to basically ingore a kid that has a scholarship offer from Spurrier and that Urban Meyer is reportedly very close to offering? Something seems way off in UK's in-state recruiting efforts of the upper echelon players.

    MinterWonderlnd

  • MinterWonderlnd said...

    The most disspointing aspect of yesterday was the discrepency in level of physical play. UL was so much more physical than UK in every key matchup. Their offensive line (3 true sophmores) absolutely mauled our big, veteran defensive front. It was that way all over the field.

    So tired of all this "bigger, stronger, faster" talk coming from Joker and Rock Oliver. Our guys got absolutey shoved around all day by a Big East team comprised of mostly sophmores and only 10 seniors on the entire roster.

    Both Strong and Joker took over their programs at the same exact time. The direction each program has taken since that time can't be denied or argued. Strong and his staff of former UF assistants that were hand picked by Urban Meyer when he was at UF have lapped Joker and his staff every step along the way since the day they were hired.

    Wasn't that way on the other side of the ball. Charlie Strong even flat said UK's offensive line won that battle. So it wasn't 'every key matchup'. It was on defense, which played a horrendous and indefensible game.

    This post was edited by Matt May on 9/3/2012 at 10:18 AM

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  • Matt May said...

    Wasn't that way on the other side of the ball. Charlie Strong even flat said UK's offensive line won that battle. So it wasn't 'every key matchup'. It was on defense, which played a horrendous and indefensible game.

    Agree with Matt. O-line played well. Coach Summers is a very good coach.

    footballcat65

  • bluecatntn said...

    UL lived up to its billing. They're a legit Top 25 team, probably better than Vandy, Florida, Tennessee, Mizzou and maybe even SCarolina. They're better offensively than any of those teams and if they shore up the run defense, they'll be awefully hard to beat. I say this, because I think UK has a better chance of beating these SEC teams than they did UL, because those teams aren't near as potent offensively.

    bluecatntn, you're smoking crack if you think UofL is better than all those SEC teams. Don't get me wrong, Charlie Strong has done a fantastic job, but I don't think they could beat any conference team other than UK.

    ajp40505

  • One thing that the coaches can fix today is the stance on the DT's. They get no forward push because their stance gives away their leverage. They raise up and then they are pushed back. That causes the LB's to get caught up in traffic.
    Just my two cents. I'm not a coach and didnt play in college but my HS coach always told me "It doesn't matter how big they are, if you are lower then they are, you win the battle."

    bigbluerules