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CatsPause Exclusive Barnhart Q&A - Part 3: The state of football

  • clap Bravo Matt

    This post was edited by princeuk21 on 5/2/2012 at 6:31 PM

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  • Excellent interview! Matt you asked excellent questions that had to give you pause when you asked them. Mitch gave excellent answers to your questions as well. Mitch is the first AD we've had that I can remember who is a football guy since the 60's they have all been basketball guys. I think he is doing a great job with all the sports programs without any detrimental effects to the BB program. I truly believe Mitch and Joker will succeed and will be very disappointed to see either move on. I think that Joker is just a couple years away from being very competitive in the SEC.

    Suchy500

  • Matt May said...

    So you don't have an opinion because you haven't read the story and then proceed to spend the rest of the thread giving your opinion? That makes sense. Seems your opinion - as well as several of the other usual suspects - is pretty simple and clear: Mitch Barnhart sucks and nothing he's ever done or ever will do will ever be enough to cause you to examine the situation in an unbiased, clear way.

    You don't know of anything he's done? So you don't know of the $15 million they've put into upgrading football facilities in the last five years, not counting the increased money that's been put into the coaching staff? So you don't know about the new practice fields, new Commonwealth Stadium surface, new locker rooms at Nutter Training Facility and Commonwealth, new meeting rooms, new A/V system in Nutter, new video boards and sound system in Commonwealth, new surface/lighting for the Fieldhouse, etc.? Yeah, sounds like UK's administration has done nothing to change UK football, right? But hey, a nice place for recruits to eat before the game is going to suddenly make them a BCS contender.

    The fact of the matter is I almost didn't even want to post these interviews because the anti-Mitch crowd is always going to hijack the thread with the same uninformed propaganda as always no matter how little evidence there is to support their claims. What's worse, is most of those people acknowledge they haven't even read his comments. They just bash to bash because they don't know any better and they want to blame someone.

    Awesome post and I am glad to see someone from the staff step up and hammer one home!

    MossCat15

  • My problem with Barnhart is a simple one. He is not a Kentuckian. IMHO, the AD of the University of Kentucky needs to be a UK grad from Kentucky. Someone who knows the movers and in and outs of Kentucky politics and the problems associated with UK football. Someone who also knows how to find the money needed for the football program by thinking outside of the box. Someone who will actually tell the fans how mnch money is needed and ask for it through the media. They need to be humble in this approach and put the football program ahead of their own golden parachute. Kentuckians are very giving when given all the information. This interview that was given to Matt should be given to every media outlet in Kentucky IMHO Keeping fans in the dark does nothing to help the situation and just help

    Beat Louisville

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    mrhotdice

  • Good interview Matt and I'm looking forward to the upcoming bonding article.

    If anyone has an issue with Mitch simply because he isn't a 'Kentuckian' you need to get your head out of the sand... Tell me exactly how C.M. Newton, Larry Ivy, and their ilk helped UK football? They've never given a rats @ about football... We had to go outside the UK family and frankly I pray we never go back to it unless it's someone like Rich Brooks. I heard someone on the radio say something about when Mitch is gone that we may look at Martin Newton... GTFOH! Please no!

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    cobbycobb

  • mrhotdice said...

    My problem with Barnhart is a simple one. He is not a Kentuckian. IMHO, the AD of the University of Kentucky needs to be a UK grad from Kentucky. Someone who knows the movers and in and outs of Kentucky politics and the problems associated with UK football. Someone who also knows how to find the money needed for the football program by thinking outside of the box. Someone who will actually tell the fans how mnch money is needed and ask for it through the media. They need to be humble in this approach and put the football program ahead of their own golden parachute. Kentuckians are very giving when given all the information. This interview that was given to Matt should be given to every media outlet in Kentucky IMHO Keeping fans in the dark does nothing to help the situation and just help

    Beat Louisville

    With all due respect, and I do mean with aallll due respect (Ricky Bobby voice), that was a horrible post. If that is your only problem with him (judging by how critical of a poster you have been), then he must be doing something right!

    I believe Barnhart has thrown figures that would be needed to fund the projects that he plans on doing in previous interviews, and probably will again on the one with Matt tomm. Also, simply graduating from a University gives you zero insight on how to run an Athletics Department. If you were to ask most logically thinking humans if they would rather have someone who has ran an Athletics Department successfully, or someone who was a grad. of the school with no AD experience, well, nevermind. Also, those qualifications you listed are typically things you learn AFTER becoming an AD, so how exactly will having graduated from UK help?

    This post was edited by MossCat15 on 5/3/2012 at 1:15 AM

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  • I want someone who knows as well as feels the pain of the football fans and that has to be a person with ties to football at UK

    If the AD at UK has no idea how to raise funds for football then he is doing a bad job

    Isnt fund raising 80% of an ADs job

    I want Barnhart to say that UK football needs help in fund raising and tell the fans what he plans to do about it

    Think and find ways to work with the UK grads the UK fans and the people who will help if asked but he needs to just ask

    and I dont think that should be to hard for any AD that is doing a good job for UK and the fans who are paying his salary

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by mrhotdice on 5/3/2012 at 2:20 AM

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  • I think the funding issue would hurt any AD espeially the way UK funds but you deal with it.

    Barnhart is a great AD bur not a football AD

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  • mrhotdice said...

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    Barnhart is a great AD bur not a football AD

    I guess you are entitled to your facetious opinion.

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    7lives

  • He's not a football AD. If you think he is then you must not follow college football and are unaware of how much other AD's out there value that sport above all others and stop at nothing to field a sucessful program. Many fans just do not see that burning desire to win and win big in football from Mitch. He seems quite content to field a 6-6/7-5 team, and has demonstrated zero drive to demand better. Fans in recent offseasons have been letting him know via nonrenewal of season tickets that they are unhappy with his leadership of the program.

    JHB4UK

  • Kentucky has had a long, long, long line of terrible ADs. Just awful. Barnhart is easily the best in the last 30+ years and probably ever -- but in a lot of ways it's almost by default. I can't speak to the jobs Bernie Shively and Harry Lancaster did, but Cliff Hagan, CM Newton and Larry Ivy were like the three stooges.

    Raising money for football at UK is no easy proposition with things the way they are now. I could be totally off base, but I just don't see Barnhart as having the people skills/charisma to pull it off. It seems to me any AD could fund projects if all you have to do is make a budget and submit it to the state legislature and get bonded. Raising money and getting projects completed in the current financial climate separates the good ADs from the great ones.

    My criticisms of Barnhart are:

    1. Hired Gillispie
    2. Apparently did not want to hire Cal
    3. Has not been able to lead a successful fundraising drive/PR campaign/marketing effort for football. UK has never, ever been PR savvy in any sport. Basketball is now, but only through the efforts of Cal himself.

    Barnhart gets A+ marks for his handling of the non-revenue sports; but IMO, that doesn't mean much if you don't or can't take care of the big two of football and men's basketball. I think that's analogous to a student having a 4.0 GPA in your core classes and electives but a 1.0 inside your major.

    This post was edited by Beavis13 on 5/3/2012 at 9:23 AM

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  • Matt May said...

    So you don't have an opinion because you haven't read the story and then proceed to spend the rest of the thread giving your opinion? That makes sense. Seems your opinion - as well as several of the other usual suspects - is pretty simple and clear: Mitch Barnhart sucks and nothing he's ever done or ever will do will ever be enough to cause you to examine the situation in an unbiased, clear way.

    You don't know of anything he's done? So you don't know of the $15 million they've put into upgrading football facilities in the last five years, not counting the increased money that's been put into the coaching staff? So you don't know about the new practice fields, new Commonwealth Stadium surface, new locker rooms at Nutter Training Facility and Commonwealth, new meeting rooms, new A/V system in Nutter, new video boards and sound system in Commonwealth, new surface/lighting for the Fieldhouse, etc.? Yeah, sounds like UK's administration has done nothing to change UK football, right? But hey, a nice place for recruits to eat before the game is going to suddenly make them a BCS contender.

    The fact of the matter is I almost didn't even want to post these interviews because the anti-Mitch crowd is always going to hijack the thread with the same uninformed propaganda as always no matter how little evidence there is to support their claims. What's worse, is most of those people acknowledge they haven't even read his comments. They just bash to bash because they don't know any better and they want to blame someone.

    Matt,

    Thank you for this post. That was straight up spot on.
    Haven't always agreed with some of your takes in the past but after reading this, I am absolutely a fan or Matt May lol.

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  • mrhotdice said...

    My problem with Barnhart is a simple one. He is not a Kentuckian. IMHO, the AD of the University of Kentucky needs to be a UK grad from Kentucky. Someone who knows the movers and in and outs of Kentucky politics and the problems associated with UK football. Someone who also knows how to find the money needed for the football program by thinking outside of the box. Someone who will actually tell the fans how mnch money is needed and ask for it through the media. They need to be humble in this approach and put the football program ahead of their own golden parachute. Kentuckians are very giving when given all the information. This interview that was given to Matt should be given to every media outlet in Kentucky IMHO Keeping fans in the dark does nothing to help the situation and just help

    Beat Louisville

    STUPID...period. And unlike Moss, I mean that with absolutely ZERO respect.

    MB now isn't the right guy because he's not from KY??? Really....really? Quite possibly the dumbest thing I've read to date on this site. Actually, its easily he dumbest thing I've read.

    You do know Tom Jurich isn't from KY don't you? He's a guy from California and a lot of you anti MB guys are really quick to campare him to MB. See this thread for evidence of those comparisons.

    I could go on all day reemphasizing just how idiotic the thought that MB now sucks because he's not from KY but I'm already disappointed with myself that I even acknowledged such a moronic and ignorant statement.

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  • Matt May said...

    So you don't have an opinion because you haven't read the story and then proceed to spend the rest of the thread giving your opinion? That makes sense. Seems your opinion - as well as several of the other usual suspects - is pretty simple and clear: Mitch Barnhart sucks and nothing he's ever done or ever will do will ever be enough to cause you to examine the situation in an unbiased, clear way.

    You don't know of anything he's done? So you don't know of the $15 million they've put into upgrading football facilities in the last five years, not counting the increased money that's been put into the coaching staff? So you don't know about the new practice fields, new Commonwealth Stadium surface, new locker rooms at Nutter Training Facility and Commonwealth, new meeting rooms, new A/V system in Nutter, new video boards and sound system in Commonwealth, new surface/lighting for the Fieldhouse, etc.? Yeah, sounds like UK's administration has done nothing to change UK football, right? But hey, a nice place for recruits to eat before the game is going to suddenly make them a BCS contender.

    The fact of the matter is I almost didn't even want to post these interviews because the anti-Mitch crowd is always going to hijack the thread with the same uninformed propaganda as always no matter how little evidence there is to support their claims. What's worse, is most of those people acknowledge they haven't even read his comments. They just bash to bash because they don't know any better and they want to blame someone.

    And THAT is called lowering the boom. Great post, Matt.

    Keep Calm & Stoops On..

    _Mike_

  • Tommy why do you always talk to people like that If you feel they are wrong? You flip out on em like they are your wife or something. I bet you beat women too, I have never saw anyone just get mad and start talking to people like dirt over a simple opinion, he wasn't being obtuse there was no reason to jump him like a puppy that p'd in the house... The only people that do that are criminals and you don't have a crminal record so why do you think it's ok to do that? I want to help you, I really do. The first thing i'm going to do is prescribe you some Paxil, then if you still feel angry and upset i'm going to give you some lexapro for break-through anxiety and those flare ups that you struggle with. That should work well for you... I also think you need to go to your local GNC and get some lavarian root, and drink plenty of Green Tea both of those are proven to help mellow ones mood also. I suggest you stop driking coffee or energy drinks before you get on here too. Overall that should improve your quality of life and lower you Blood-Pressure as well.

    This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by todd on 5/4/2012 at 8:57 AM

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  • todd said...

    Tommy why do you always talk to people like that If you feel they are wrong? You flip out on em like they are your wife or something. I bet you beat women too, I have never saw anyone just get mad and start talking to people like dirt over a simple gesture, he wasn't being obtuse there was no reason to jump him like a puppy that p'd in the house... The only people that do that are criminals and you don't have a crminal record so why do you think it's ok to do that? I want to help you, I really do. The first thing i'm going to do is prescribe you some Paxil, then if you still feel angry and upset i'm going to give you some lexapro for break-through anxiety and those flare ups that you struggle with. That should work well for you... I also think you need to go to your local GNC and get some lavarian root, and drink plenty of Green Tea both of those are proven to help mellow ones mood also. I suggest you stop driking coffee or energy drinks before you get on here too. Overall that should improve your quality of life and lower you Blood-Pressure as well.

    I appreciate your diagnosis Dr. Todd, but I can assure you that my health and quality of life are outstanding. Trust me.

    See Todd, I'm one of those guys that call a duck a damn duck. Period. To suggest that MB isn't a good AD because of the state he was or wasn't born in is beyond idiotic. This is a message board. People come on here to learn and share info as well as their opinions, however, when you throw your opinion out there you better be prepared to have it ripped. For example, I think that post was garbage...my opinion. You think I beat women, have health issues, and whatever else you chose to judge and that's fine...once again...your opinion.

    Welcome to the real world. Its not filled with nothing rainbows, puppies, and lollipops. Its filled with (and mostly ran by) assholes...just like me.

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  • Personally I believe UK ought to hire the best possible people for their positions without regard to where they are from. And should not treat those who might be from here with more lattitude as far as getting the job done than would be given to someone who isnt from the state.

    JHB4UK

  • todd said...

    Tommy why do you always talk to people like that If you feel they are wrong? You flip out on em like they are your wife or something. I bet you beat women too, I have never saw anyone just get mad and start talking to people like dirt over a simple gesture, he wasn't being obtuse there was no reason to jump him like a puppy that p'd in the house... The only people that do that are criminals and you don't have a crminal record so why do you think it's ok to do that? I want to help you, I really do. The first thing i'm going to do is prescribe you some Paxil, then if you still feel angry and upset i'm going to give you some lexapro for break-through anxiety and those flare ups that you struggle with. That should work well for you... I also think you need to go to your local GNC and get some lavarian root, and drink plenty of Green Tea both of those are proven to help mellow ones mood also. I suggest you stop driking coffee or energy drinks before you get on here too. Overall that should improve your quality of life and lower you Blood-Pressure as well.

    Look bro, I get what your sayin. Those that have been around a while know that I am usually one of the more positive posters on this site. Hell, I got ripped consistently and with equal fashion all year last year for trying to remain positive. But damn it dude, enough is enough already. Its the same tired ass posts thread after thread. MB sucks, MB doesn't care about football, if we only had a recruiting room, farrrr MB, farrrr Joker.
    Its become far beyond ridiculous. I OVERstand the concerns with our program, I truly do, but to post the same agenda shit over and over....sigh.

    And now we have suggestions that MB isn't the right guy because he wasn't born in ky....Todd just say that you loud to yourself and marinade on that.

    Posting concerns, gripes, or simple venting is fine. That's exactly what this site is supposed to be. ALL THINGS UK, but attacking the team, the staff, or admin is not only uncalled for but against site rules. As well as attacking posters. Attack the post, not the posters. Which is what I do. Harsh at times? Maybe. But if your gonna dish it, be ready to take it.

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  • JHB4UK said...

    Personally I believe UK ought to hire the best possible people for their positions without regard to where they are from. And should not treat those who might be from here with more lattitude as far as getting the job done than would be given to someone who isnt from the state.

    I would be willing to bet that of all the top ADs in college sports there are only a few that were born in that state.

    This post was edited by tommy on 5/3/2012 at 1:17 PM

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  • Matt May said...

    So you don't have an opinion because you haven't read the story and then proceed to spend the rest of the thread giving your opinion? That makes sense. Seems your opinion - as well as several of the other usual suspects - is pretty simple and clear: Mitch Barnhart sucks and nothing he's ever done or ever will do will ever be enough to cause you to examine the situation in an unbiased, clear way.

    You don't know of anything he's done? So you don't know of the $15 million they've put into upgrading football facilities in the last five years, not counting the increased money that's been put into the coaching staff? So you don't know about the new practice fields, new Commonwealth Stadium surface, new locker rooms at Nutter Training Facility and Commonwealth, new meeting rooms, new A/V system in Nutter, new video boards and sound system in Commonwealth, new surface/lighting for the Fieldhouse, etc.? Yeah, sounds like UK's administration has done nothing to change UK football, right? But hey, a nice place for recruits to eat before the game is going to suddenly make them a BCS contender.

    The fact of the matter is I almost didn't even want to post these interviews because the anti-Mitch crowd is always going to hijack the thread with the same uninformed propaganda as always no matter how little evidence there is to support their claims. What's worse, is most of those people acknowledge they haven't even read his comments. They just bash to bash because they don't know any better and they want to blame someone.

    Matt, I just meant I didn't have an opinion based upon what you wrote in the article, cause I couldn't read it. That doesn't mean I can't have an overall opinion about the matter, or respond to others who have posted in the thread does it? I do appreciate that you guys have to post VIP threads for the paying customers, and have no problem with that at all, but If you had some new earth shattering info about how Mitch is promoting football funding, it would seem as though that might be a good free article since it is such a divisive matter amongst the overall fanbase. JMO.

    As for my post, I never said "Mitch has done nothing for football" as you imply. I said he isn't doing what it takes to raise the funds it takes to make us competitive. As far as the things you point out that Mitch has done for football, yes I know about them, but I think they pale in comparrison to our SEC bretheran, and even UL for that matter. Why don't you compare those numbers to what every other SEC program has done and tell me how they match up? Somehow, I don't think that will support your hypothesis that Mitch has done a good job as a football AD at UK?

    Maybe I shouldn't have posted my original message in your thread, but honestly, it wasn't exactly hostile. It just gave a valid, albeit, opposing opinion to your perspective. Whatever the case, the bottom line as I see it, is it's the AD's job to get funding, no matter how he does it, and if he can't, he is not doing his job, regardless of the roadblocks he faces. His entire career at UK, he has not gotten funding that is comparable to the other teams in our conference, nor has he really made a sound football hire. (Yes, Brooks turned out to be a positive, but Mitch only hired him as a last minute fall back plan because he couldn't seal the deal on bigger prospects.) He got lucky with Brooks, (who now loudly criticizes him by the way) and hired a guy in Joker who has never been a head coach of any program before anywhere? As a true blue fan, I hope like heck Joker proves the doubters wrong and turns it around, but even if he does, it's obvious based on the first two years that he had a learning curve, and wasn't ready to lead an SEC school at the time of his hire. FWIW, do think that Mitch has recently tried to put more effort into football, but until those efforts start to match the efforts of the AD's of the teams we play against, we will remain at a major disadvantage to those programs. That's why I complain.

    This post was edited by Catmando on 5/4/2012 at 12:29 AM

    Catmando

  • Catmando said...

    Matt, I just meant I didn't have an opinion based upon what you wrote in the article, cause I couldn't read it. That doesn't mean I can't have an overall opinion about the matter, or respond to others who have posted in the thread does it? I do appreciate that you guys have to post VIP threads for the paying customers, and have no problem with that at all, but If you had some new earth shattering info about how Mitch is promoting football funding, it would seem as though that might be a good free article since it is such a divisive matter amongst the overall fanbase. JMO.

    As for my post, I never said "Mitch has done nothing for football" as you imply. I said he isn't doing what it takes to raise the funds it takes to make us competitive. As far as the things you point out that Mitch has done for football, yes I know about them, but I think they pale in comparrison to our SEC bretheran, and even UL for that matter. Why don't you compare those numbers to what every other SEC program has done and tell me how they match up? Somehow, I don't think that will support your hypothesis that Mitch has done a good job as a football AD at UK?

    Maybe I shouldn't have posted my original message in your thread, but honestly, it wasn't exactly hostile. It just gave a valid, albeit, opposing opinion to your perspective. Whatever the case, the bottom line as I see it, is it's the AD's job to get funding, no matter how he does it, and if he can't, he is not doing his job, regardless of the roadblocks he faces. His entire career at UK, he has not gotten funding that is comparable to the other teams in our conference, nor has he really made a sound football hire. (Yes, Brooks turned out to be a positive, but Mitch only hired him as a last minute fall back plan because he couldn't seal the deal on bigger prospects.) He got lucky with Brooks, (who now loudly criticizes him by the way) and hired a guy in Joker who has never been a head coach of any program before anywhere? As a true blue fan, I hope like heck Joker proves the doubters wrong and turns it around, but even if he does, it's obvious based on the first two years that he had a learning curve, and wasn't ready to lead an SEC school at the time of his hire. FWIW, do think that Mitch has recently tried to put more effort into football, but until those efforts start to match the efforts of the AD's of the teams we play against, we will remain at a major disadvantage to those programs.

    I really don't think there is any more ways to explain to some that UK DOES NOT HAVE THE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES AS THE OTHER SEC PROGRAMS. It is absolutely exhausting to keep trying, and while we are on the exhausting topics, to continue to compare UK and the state of KY (a state tremendously struggling with financial issues much much more important than football btw) is incredibly unrealistic and naive. I do admit tho that as many have stated, these large projects would indeed create jobs.

    Its either A.) some just clearly don't understand or comprehend what that means or B.) those individuals simply to ignore these facts. For what its worth, I don't think its A...for the majority anyway. But maybe there are some (and I'm not implying you Catmando) that really don't truly understand how bonding and fundraising truly works and just don't want to openly admit that. MB states (for those who don't have VIP access) that KY is ranked 48th in funding. Think about that...48th. Not to mention, there simply aren't any T. Boone Pickens or any other millionaires gifting the football program right now. However I do believe that when we get back to making consistent bowl appearances that those donations which predominantly go towards hoops will start finding their way to the pigskin side of things.

    It simply doesn't matter who the AD is...IT DOES NOT MATTER, there would still be the same issues in Frankfort.

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  • One more thing to piggy back on my comments regarding the state. I just want to play devils advocate.
    I'm not sayin I agree with the states constant resistance towards football but if you think about all the real life and very serious problems in Kentucky it may put some things in perspective. Our state has a drug epidemic right now with meth and oxy. We have some of the worst roads in the nation. We have children in rural eastern KY living in emense poverty and not receiving proper education. All these very real and very serious issues going on as I type this and we are upset because we can't get millions and millions of dollars for a football team.

    I truly apologize for going political. I've learned from previous run ins to keep politics off of the site but I felt I needed to say it. I want the athletics department as a whole to succeed which MB has done as strong a job as any AD in America, but most importantly I so desperately want to see our football program compete for conf titles, but I also thought it was worth mentioning that the state of Kentucky has many more tasks at hand to ensure a better future for our children and our state than football.

    Again, I apologize if this post sticks anyone the wrong way. It was not my intent.

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  • For those who INSIST on bitching and moaning about Mitch and how he supposedly doesn't do anything for football, I want you to HONESTLY ask yourself the following questions, write down the answers and then repeat your comments about his lack of efforts concerning our football out loud and see if you still place the blame for UK football's "problems" at Mitch Barnhart's feet:

    1. Where was UK football before he arrived?

    2. Has it improved since then?

    3. Who hired Rich Brooks?

    4. Who stayed the course and kept Rich Brooks when every fan under the sun was calling for his head?

    5. Are you now glad he kept Rich Brooks or do you still wish he would have fired him?

    6. Who has obtained funding and oversaw developments and improvements at the indoor and outdoor practice facilities, lockerrooms, weight rooms, training rooms, meeting rooms, CWS? How much money was spent on those projects?

    7. How much was spent in upgrading CWS less than 9 months ago to include state of the art video boards on both ends of the stadium, massive audio upgrades, and ribbon boards to make the stadium's visual presence more in line with everyone else in the SEC and elsewhere?

    8. If you went to a game this year, did you enjoy the upgrades listed in #7 above?

    9. Did he make an effort for 2 straight years to keep Tee Martin on staff by continuously giving him pay raises and new titles, even when it was painfully clear that Tee wanted to move on to a "bigger" program and damn near everyone in America wanted him?

    10. Has he explained the problems they face with bonding, and has he publicly voiced his frustrations about the powers that be when it comes to those problems?

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by mjdotson on 5/4/2012 at 9:56 AM

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  • You are right Tommy, saying MB can't be a good AD just becaue he's not from KY is crazy, the bottom line is everyone wants to recruit better and win more games. And Lord knows we all deserve it, we are some of the best fans in the country. For some reason the fans, people who cover UK FB, the staff and recruits/players are the only ones who seem to take FB serious. I really wish we had some more tradition and were just having a couple down years, if that were the case it would be alot easier to get things back to where they were or better. What is killiing UK fans and Joker is we were on the cusp of getting over the hump, but in Brook's last couple classes the entire staff failed terribly on the recruiting trail... That and the money situation has been the reason for decline. Since we lack tradition and top shelf facilities it is really going to take a culture change and some cooperation from the state to get things to were they need to be. I love Joker and his staff, I really think they are a quality SEC staff, I just wish Joker and CO didn't have so many things pulling them in the wrong direction. It also sucks that we are compared to other programs that have huge advantages due to their geography or tradition. No matter what anyone tells me I know we are fighting a uphill battle, no one is saying Mitch is a pille of S___ or anything I just wish (like everyone else does deep down) he could find away to get CW a major upgrade and UK FB were it needs to be. The way UofL and Vandy have seemed to take off in this 13 class isn't helping things either. UofL managed to land another good looking kid on the 2nd...

    A RR wouldn't all of a sudden equal 10 4 star recruits a year, but some renovations and better PR would help UK FB a whole lot and the PR is very possible. We all also know UK FB is pushed aside when compared to our other major sport. And I know FB will probably never be the main attraction in Lexington but I really wish Mitch and CO would get creative or do whatever it takes to close that gap alittle. If we could just get to where we are going 500 in the SEC that would mean we are much more competitive. Of coarse I want even more than that, but as of now that would show improvement and get people excited again, and no doubt shut alot of the FAR JOKER AND MITCH stuff up. The question is how do we get there and how does Mitch find some solutions for a few of our current issues because us fans are very limited and can't take care of all our needs. And as much as I know this will make people mad, it is MB's job to find ways to get that funding, is it fair to put it all on him? No, but he is in charge. I also wish he would have taken care of Rich Brooks, RB raised a ton of money at other schools, and we all know RB isn't fond of MB (he has that right) but if MB were to put his pride (along with RB) aside for a minute for the better of UK football I really think together those two men could help improve our status.

    Maybe all these talks to CP, KSR and others about what's holding UK FB back are one of MB's ways to getting some pressure on those who keep throwing a wrench in his plans. I hope it works, pissing UK fans off may be the only way for Mitch to gain leverage on those real haters because eventhough some of us have different opinions we all want the same thing, and I don't have to say what that is... GO CATS!!!

    And again thanks for letting everyone post on this matter, is there any new news since the last time KSR posted the video when they talked to Mitch???...

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by todd on 5/4/2012 at 10:38 AM

    todd

  • mjdotson said...

    For those who INSIST on bitching and moaning about Mitch and how he supposedly doesn't do anything for football, I want you to HONESTLY ask yourself the following questions, write down the answers and then repeat your comments about his lack of efforts concerning our football out loud and see if you still place the blame for UK football's "problems" at Mitch Barnhart's feet:

    --I certainly don't expect Barnhart to produce 100s of millions of dollars out of thin air for stadium expansion with the current bonding situation. And I like the fact that he is aggressively stating his case and criticizing the legislature. But why did he wait so long? If this has truly been going on for 10 years, why not complain about it 4-5-6-7 years ago? If he had, public pressure may have caused a change by now.

    --I'm thankful for the maintenance and upgrade in football facilities that have been completed. You absolutely have to have better weight rooms, playing fields, etc. Where I am critical is in priorities. While nice and flashy, are ribbon boards and HD video screens more important than recruiting budgets, recruiting rooms and coaches' salaries?

    If you asked Rich Brooks and Joker Phillips to sit down and make out a prioritized list of improvements needed, I'd be shocked if they didn't list a number of things well before ribbon boards and video boards.

    Beavis13