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Coach Cal monitoring Poythress' heart rate during games?

  • Did anyone catch Alex adjusting his monitor during the game by the bench. Makes you think that they are making sure these kids are pushing themselves.

    "Cal will have Rock Oliver join him in the gym every morning to push the players through 20 to 30 minutes of running. He said their heart rates will be high; not like 120, like 170 or 180."

    fbtimeblue

  • That was his battery pack, he's actually a cyborg.

    BigTyrone

  • If he's a Cyborg then we need to adjust his power level.

    tWhit

  • tWhit said...

    If he's a Cyborg then we need to adjust his power level.

    Is it just me or does Poythress almost always seem down in the dumps when they show a close up of him? And that is what I have noticed even after a monster dunk. Now I could have missed a dramatic reaction on his part but I just dont remember seeing one.

    sleepydog

  • sleepydog said...

    Is it just me or does Poythress almost always seem down in the dumps when they show a close up of him? And that is what I have noticed even after a monster dunk. Now I could have missed a dramatic reaction on his part but I just dont remember seeing one.

    Poythress was getting excited after dunks in the Maryland and Duke games.

    dustarm20

  • As a former athletic trainer and now a medical professional, if it was a heart rate monitor then it's for other purposes.......hypertrophic cardiomyopathy being one. Kids have been dying on the court.

    BlueRaider22

  • ^^ I don't think so... easy to connect the dots to what it was for by reading the post game quotes. How can you push a kid to raise their heart rate without monitoring and holding them accountable?

    It's like going to the gym for any of us and not tracking any of the workout data. You think you had a tough workout, but how would you know without the data? Just because you broke a good sweat and feel tired?

    fbtimeblue

  • BlueRaider22 said...

    As a former athletic trainer and now a medical professional, if it was a heart rate monitor then it's for other purposes.......hypertrophic cardiomyopathy being one. Kids have been dying on the court.

    It's to make sure he's going hard. Cal has said in the past that he puts them on kids who he perceives as having effort issues.

    hoptownukfan

  • Poythress' body language is remarkable for it's negativity. There is only one thing stopping him from being unstoppable - himself. Physically, the guy might be the most complete player to come along in a long time. He has all the tools to be elite.

    CATinFL

  • Reminds me a ton of T. Jones. Guy could be a monster if he'd allow himself to just run over people.

    I've heard he is a really nice kid and sometimes it is tough for them to get a mean streak in a game.

    shauner17

  • He seems to be thinking too much, like when he started to dribble and then decided to pass, and then he walked. Too much thinking, he needs to just play and let the game come to him. For his talent upside, the little things have hurt him, stepping on the inbounds line several times, charging and lowering his shoulder, and he better not hang on the rim after a dunk like he did the other night because at away games they will call that a TO everytime.

    UKlaw82

  • He hung on the rim to protect himself from flipping and potentially hurting himself. I'm fine with that any day.

    Matt4CATS

  • CATinFL said...

    Poythress' body language is remarkable for it's negativity. There is only one thing stopping him from being unstoppable - himself. Physically, the guy might be the most complete player to come along in a long time. He has all the tools to be elite.

    We need to get his sister on his tail, no joke, when they were young his sister beat him all the time in the b-ball games they played in their neighborhood until he got tired of being kidded by the other kids and thats what he and his sister says jump started him to be the player he was in HS, that and growing several inches and sculpting his body by working out. He has everything a player needs to be a great player except the fire in his belly. I hope the light comes on and we see the monster that we all know he can be.

    sleepydog

  • fbtimeblue said...

    Did anyone catch Alex adjusting his monitor during the game by the bench. Makes you think that they are making sure these kids are pushing themselves.

    "Cal will have Rock Oliver join him in the gym every morning to push the players through 20 to 30 minutes of running. He said their heart rates will be high; not like 120, like 170 or 180."

    Are you for real? If he's got a heart monitor on it's not to see if their pushing themselves. I've worn a heart monitor and it's not for that. It's to see if you've got a heart rythm problem. There are other ways to know if a kid is pushing himself or not.

    ukblueforever

  • fbtimeblue said...

    ^^ I don't think so... easy to connect the dots to what it was for by reading the post game quotes. How can you push a kid to raise their heart rate without monitoring and holding them accountable?

    It's like going to the gym for any of us and not tracking any of the workout data. You think you had a tough workout, but how would you know without the data? Just because you broke a good sweat and feel tired?

    If they was checking his heart rate, they would do it in practice where they are really pushed. Your heart rate does not necessarily indicate whether you're pushing yourself or not. Peoples hearts beat at different rates. You could be busting your butt and your heart rate still might not be as high as someone elses'.

    This post was edited by ukblueforever on 12/5/2012 at 4:14 PM

    ukblueforever

  • hoptownukfan said...

    It's to make sure he's going hard. Cal has said in the past that he puts them on kids who he perceives as having effort issues.

    When has Cal said that? He doesn't need a heart monitor to tell if a kid is putting out the effort. He's a coach, he sees the practices and games.

    ukblueforever

  • we wore them when i was in college in the late 1990's for the coaches and trainer to know how much effort your putting out and how much more they can push you. it was the same unit we all saw on tv last night. they had a formula on what each person's max heart rate was and were weren't suppose to push beyond that for a sustained period of time. it made us work harder, b/c the coaches could tell your effort.

    This post was edited by tubetop on 12/5/2012 at 5:21 PM

    tubetop

  • dustarm20 said...

    Poythress was getting excited after dunks in the Maryland and Duke games.

    How about lately? I guess you are correct about a couple of times in the 1st 2 games but they just dont stick out in my mind. Its such a shame he doesnt yet have the attitude of MKG, then you would see a great player on the court. He has all the physical attributes to be a dominating player but not the mindset as of yet.

    sleepydog

  • Alex' personality reminds me so much of Darius Miller. Such a nice guy, he lets it hold him back somewhat. I love his game and can tell he is a great kid, but if he remains on the shy side on the floor, he may be here for the whole four years. I wouldn't mind that, and he would get his degree, but he could be passing up on a chance of a few million bucks.

    Oldcarlcat

  • ukblueforever said...

    If they was checking his heart rate, they would do it in practice where they are really pushed. Your heart rate does not necessarily indicate whether you're pushing yourself or not. Peoples hearts beat at different rates. You could be busting your butt and your heart rate still might not be as high as someone elses'.

    Your right about the the monitor and it isnt being used to see if he is pushing himself hard enough. Again your right about each persons heart rate depends on a lot of things and with these players being in such great shape his heart rate wouldnt go as high with exertion that say mine would if I were to run or excercise. I have had to wear a heart monitor more than once and that wasnt to check how hard I was pushing myself. Some player either yesterday or the day before that collapsed in practice and had to be revived. If there was anything at all wrong with his heart he wouldnt be playing at all. Maybe Cal will clear this up soon but I dont look for him to be very specific about ti.

    This post was edited by sleepydog on 12/5/2012 at 8:21 PM

    sleepydog

  • sleepydog said...

    Your right about the the monitor and it isnt being used to see if he is pushing himself hard enough. Again your right about each persons heart rate depends on a lot of things and with these players being in such great shape his heart rate wouldnt go as high with exertion that say mine would if I were to run or excercise. I have had to wear a heart monitor more than once and that wasnt to check how hard I was pushing myself. Some player either yesterday or the day before that collapsed in practice and had to be revived. If there was anything at all wrong with his heart he wouldnt be playing at all. Maybe Cal will clear this up soon but I dont look for him to be very specific about ti.

    It's cleared... now. Thanks.

    "To help me do this, each player is now practicing and playing in games with a device that measures their exertion rate, sport zones, caloric expenditure and heart rate."
    -CoachCal.com

    flex

    fbtimeblue

  • ukblueforever said...

    When has Cal said that? He doesn't need a heart monitor to tell if a kid is putting out the effort. He's a coach, he sees the practices and games.

    Hmmm... Interesting. Still think that?

    hoptownukfan

  • fbtimeblue said...

    It's cleared... now. Thanks.

    "To help me do this, each player is now practicing and playing in games with a device that measures their exertion rate, sport zones, caloric expenditure and heart rate." -CoachCal.com

    flex

    The world of sports and in every aspect of life is becoming more and more high tech and specialized. This, besides being a physiological thing could also to some extent be a psychological ploy on Cals part to get the players to play harder knowing that he now has scientific tools to show each of them how much they are putting out during practice and games. Very smart on Cals part and just shows why he is the best.

    sleepydog