The House of Blue

Listen, most people expected 4-5 wins but they also expected a team that would compete every single time they showed up on the field, that is not happening.

Outside of opening the offense up to an extent, this team is not prepared mentally of physically when we come out of the gates. We will be buried when conference play starts next weekend.

Before any single person on this board chimes in and talks about how young we are, we are supposedly a SEC team and any one we face, MAC or Sunbelt should be nothing more than a blip. We are young as hell because in year number three, Joker and his buds have seriously missed on the guys we have recruited. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever that we have lost so many of our top rated recruits in the last couple of classes.

Total bull-crap. I have an education but it would take me twelve years to make what Joker Phillips makes in a single season. Sad as hell.

I want much more and we all deserve more, I don't care if you bitch all day or have sunshine pumped up your butt. Totally ridiculous.

But, to your point... We are not even close to being an SEC team, and have never been. Just a team who happens to be in the SEC. So to hell with all this SEC team vs big east, or whatever... When is our last winning season in SEC play...?

Exactly! That's why I'm sick of hearing people talk about how down we are, blah blah blah. Or how SEC is so good that it's inexcusable to lose even by 1 to small conferences. It's old, and annoying. Uk has never been a real SEC team, so get over it. Our best year I can remember is 4-4!!!!!! Fire the coach if you want, who cares. You will get the same result by letting joker finish two more years as you will with a home run hire starting over. I would rather talk about trying to go 1-0 in the conference for the first time in eons:)

I guess I have to disagree with that. Brooks coached a couple of pretty decent teams that were a couple of TD's shy of a winning SEC record, he handed that over to Joker who could win two SEC games at best (IMO).

I guess it's kind of like Curry taking over for Claiborne, one step forward and five steps back. It will get worse every single week at this point.

IDK man...I've been hearing for years that we were not mentally ready, ready to play at the opening kick, etc. I was a guy that said give Brooks 4 years because of the PATHETIC shape we were in at the time. But can't count the times even under Brooks that we came out FLAT. That IMHO is coaching.

Honestly what's left to talk about? Wanna discuss how many yards and points we will give up at Florida? Whether we lose by 20 or 30? How far can Foster punt?

Truth is.... We will be worse off firing our coach than if we give it time, bottom line!!!!! All this bull about going out and hiring a home run makes me want to punch someone in the face until I break every bone in both my hands... That is the EXACT same thing as Auburn saying that in basketball. Even if auburn paid top dollar, no good coach is going there. Same here, sorry. So stop talking about how much we need to spend, or even who we should hire in my opinion, only a cheapo or up and comer coach would ever come to uk. Plus, currently there isn't even an opening here. Go cats, beat gators

Yeah, maybe it's a cop-out but I'm approaching 50 and it's always been the same. Wake sucks in football and had a couple of good hoop teams, Baylor had one good football team but has put together a b-ball team that is competitive (and that's much easier in bball than football).

Of all the teams you mentioned (outside of WF), those schools all place emphasis on the two money-winning sports that bring revenue into the school.

We're focused on winning the Capital Cup which will make Barnhart look like a genius when all is said and done.

And I've had a few beers on a Monday night.

The last real SEC defense that could stop the run was Curci coached.

Yep but its also been said that it seems to be much easier for football first schools to have success in basketball than it is for basketball first schools to have success in football. Regardless we still need to make a commitment to football. Hell Cal can run the bball program by himself. We need to take this time to capitalize on that. We aren't going anywhere in bball and we're a laughing stock in football. Something can be done about it. I used to be of the mindset that fans should show up to games regardless but maybe if we hit the decision makers where it hurts we can force change.

Not sure anyone expected a loss to WKU though. It's not too late to save his job and a lot will depend on how competitive UK is the rest of the season, but the WKU loss but Joker behind the 8-ball a little bit.

Claiborne coached at UK from 1982 through 1989. In those 8 years, UK's defense allowed

1982 26.1 ppg
1983 19.7 ppg
1984 18.4 ppg
1985 19.2 ppg
1986 18.8 ppg
1987 17.2 ppg
1988 18.9 ppg
1989 20.0 ppg

Prior to Claiborne, Curci's last 2 teams were 20.1 and 25.4 ppg, but Curci's other teams also posted very impressive defensive results

1979 13.0 ppg
1978 17.2 ppg
1977 10.1 ppg
1976 12.5 ppg
1975 16.6 ppg
1974 17.6 ppg
1973 17.8 ppg

Since Claiborne left, UK has had one season in 1 season in 22 in which the defense held opponents to under 20.0 ppg, 1993 with Curry at 17.7 ppg. During that same 22 years, only 4 years including 1993, did the defense hold opponents to less than 25 ppg, and two of those years were 2008 and 2009 (Steve Brown years), and 7 seasons, UK defense allowed over 30 ppg for the season.

This is why I say that UK has not seen defensive teams of any real merit since Claiborne hung up his cleats.