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Commentary: Start Patrick Towles

  • http://kentucky.247sports.com/Article/Redshirt-QB-allows-Kentucky-to-salvage-offensive-scheme-93643

    Coach Joker Phillips has a critical decision to make. Change the offense or change the quarterback? All he said is both Jalen Whitlow and Patrick Towles will play Saturday.

    Darrell Bird

  • At first, before I read the commentary, I'll admit that I didn't necessarily like the idea. BUT after reading the reasoning behind it, I also think starting Tolwes and playing to the teams' strengths (utilizing the WR core, etc) would be the best decision.

    Good read.

    This post was edited by Darrell Bird on 10/2/2012 at 10:50 AM

    Chiuk

  • I don't think Towles should start just for the sake of starting. He needs to be ready. I know a lot of people are still judging him on his high school stats. There was a reason he was red-shirted to begin with. Joker must have thought he wasn't as ready as the other guys. Now it's out of necessity his red-shirt is gone. If he starts, I hope it's because he gives us our best chance of winning.

    ukblueforever

  • ukblueforever said...

    I don't think Towles should start just for the sake of starting. He needs to be ready. I know a lot of people are still judging him on his high school stats. There was a reason he was red-shirted to begin with. Joker must have thought he wasn't as ready as the other guys. Now it's out of necessity his red-shirt is gone. If he starts, I hope it's because he gives us our best chance of winning.

    If you read the article, it clearly makes a case as to why he should start. That is, PTs skill set is much the same as Smith's....a pocket passer. Our offense is geared toward that type of QB, not a dual-threat. Thus, a case can be made that PTs skill set matches our offense to a tee. Hence, you start him because you will be able to utilize more weapons (all of our WRs) with him in there, than with Whitlow......at least in theory.

    I don't think there is one piece of info in the article that says start PT, for the sake of starting him.

    This post was edited by Chiuk on 10/2/2012 at 11:03 AM

    Chiuk

  • If Whitlow knows 10% of the playbook and hopefully Towles knows a different 10% of the playbook, you play them both and try to keep the defense guessing. I have a feeling that we may see a true QB by committee for the rest of the year. Whitlow will get a series or two and then they will put in Towles for a series or two. Depending on who has been the most effective QB in that particular game will determine who is playing the final series if its close.

    TREYJUKFAN

  • Chiuk said...

    If you read the article, it clearly makes a case as to why he should start. That is, PTs skill set is much the same as Smith's....a pocket passer. Our offense is geared toward that type of QB, not a dual-threat. Thus, a case can be made that PTs skill set matches our offense to a tee. Hence, you start him because you will be able to utilize more weapons (all of our WRs) with him in there, than with Whitlow......at least in theory.

    I don't think there is one piece of info in the article that says start PT, for the sake of starting him.

    I read the article and I understand that he's the same type QB as Smith, but, that doesn't make him ready. That's all I'm saying. I didn't say the article said start him just to start him, but, I know a lot of fans feel that way just because of all his hype coming in.

    This post was edited by ukblueforever on 10/2/2012 at 11:21 AM

    ukblueforever

  • Play them both. Go with the hot hand in the fourth quarter.

    hoptownukfan

  • Just curious, and I dont know much about football, but y recruit a QB in Whitlow that is not condusive to the style of offense you are implementing. Just doesnt make sense to me. Just curious as to why that would be beneficial. Thanks

    KBerg54285

  • hoptownukfan said...

    Play them both. Go with the hot hand in the fourth quarter.

    thumbsupThis..

    bluecatntn

  • K-Berg said...

    Just curious, and I dont know much about football, but y recruit a QB in Whitlow that is not condusive to the style of offense you are implementing. Just doesnt make sense to me. Just curious as to why that would be beneficial. Thanks

    He was recruited as an athlete, not, neccessarily as a QB. He was told he would get a shot at QB 1st and that's what he's gotten, but, in the long run, he's a solid athlete capable of playing several different positions, WR, TE, DB, S, Slot, etc.. He's actually fared pretty well at QB thus far and I think he would be a great Wildcat type QB for certain situations during a game, but, not 100% sure, he's the best answer as a f/t starter. He may be, just haven't seen enough of him yet to make that determination...

    bluecatntn

  • K-Berg said...

    Just curious, and I dont know much about football, but y recruit a QB in Whitlow that is not condusive to the style of offense you are implementing. Just doesnt make sense to me. Just curious as to why that would be beneficial. Thanks

    You recruit an athlete like Whitlow to win more games. He provides you options to get a SEC caliber athlete that could help you win games from various positions, be it dual threat QB, Wildcat, slot receiver or outside WR.

    Randall Cobb didn't exactly fit the "style of offense" that Randy and Joker typically play, i.e., the offense Woodson ran.

    ShockeyFork

  • As great coaches always say, "it's not who starts but who finishes." Does not matter who starts, but who gets in the flow the quickest, shows poise, makes less errors, and gives the WR and RB's chances to make plays.

    jehamm0

  • You sub them in and out in a hurry up, and really keep the defense guessing.

    docjmrmd

  • Agree, play them both, it is not about starting, it is about giving the team the best chance to win in the 4th qtr., but that is not going to be an issue if we can't stop the run. Thankfully after this game GA appears to be the only game left that probably is not winable. I think Towles will be starter within the next couple of games.

    allgeir

  • K-Berg said...

    Just curious, and I dont know much about football, but y recruit a QB in Whitlow that is not condusive to the style of offense you are implementing. Just doesnt make sense to me. Just curious as to why that would be beneficial. Thanks

    Because no one expected Whitlow to be THIS good as a QB. Most were expecting him to be a Wildcat option, or a wide receiver.

    Keep Calm & Stoops On..

    _Mike_

  • hoptownukfan said...

    Play them both. Go with the hot hand in the fourth quarter.

    Play them both until one of them gets hurt and then what? Really the tandem QB system never works for long because one or the other gets hurt and then you are left with just another excuse for the media to write a BadJuJu story on how Joker "can;t get a break".

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    mrhotdice

  • Yep play them both. It will get them both some experience from here on out and we should have one hell of a QB battle next year. Whitlow should probably start and we should utilize the QB run game. Bring in Towles and hit them with the pass all the while giving the Bulldogs a healthy dose of Jon Jon, Mobes and Sanders.

    tWhit

  • jehamm0 said...

    As great coaches always say, "it's not who starts but who finishes." Does not matter who starts, but who gets in the flow the quickest, shows poise, makes less errors, and gives the WR and RB's chances to make plays.

    You took my thought! Agree 100%!

    1003blue

  • Brohm and Leflors QB combo worked out okay for Petrino and UL. Just sayin'.

    indian

    fbtimeblue

  • Yes, and UL did OK with true freshman Teddy Bridgewater last year, too. Of course, he's playing in the Big Least and not the SEC, but it's not the end of the world.

    Darrell Bird

  • ukblueforever said...

    I read the article and I understand that he's the same type QB as Smith, but, that doesn't make him ready. That's all I'm saying. I didn't say the article said start him just to start him, but, I know a lot of fans feel that way just because of all his hype coming in.

    It doesn't matter at this point who is ready. You have to start one of them. Seems like less changes to use Towels. Better chance of success with less changes. Smith wasn't that far into his starting role. Offense was tailored to that style of qb.

    Personally I thought the game looked a little fast to Whitlow last week. He looked really good when USC was punch drunk. When they regained they're composure, he looked pretty Newtonesk. Throwing picks and pulling the ball down to run not
    finishing reads. That's just me tho. I usually see a different game than most on here.

    UK141240

  • How about messenger QBs. I remember back in the day that some coaches used messenger guards to bring in the plays. You could have your QB on the sideline instructing him on the next play. IMO this would seem a good system for two young QBs.

    Cll80

  • tWhit said...

    Yep play them both. It will get them both some experience from here on out and we should have one hell of a QB battle next year. Whitlow should probably start and we should utilize the QB run game. Bring in Towles and hit them with the pass all the while giving the Bulldogs a healthy dose of Jon Jon, Mobes and Sanders.

    My only concern with you theory is that Whitlow missed the check downs and looked for the deep balls. That makes tooter rcvg core 1 or 2 rcvrs. You must utilize the entire offense for this system to work. That's why Smith was completing passes to 9 & 10 rcvrs.

    UK141240

  • Not read the article...but looking from afar...It makes the most sense to me to utilize both QB's...But run vastly different packages.

    PT suits the no-huddle spread passing attack (in the mold of the UK O w/ Smith). JW fits the spread option - Wildcat - dual threat attack that can also be ran from UK's base sets (like what Joker&Co have tried to do w/ Newton - quite unsuccessfully I might add). I could also envision a little Dual QB - Pistol sets (much like LaMonroe used against Baylor) but I doubt our staff is that creative.

    Either way...UK has an uphill battle on their hands.

    catcard202

  • jehamm0 said...

    As great coaches always say, "it's not who starts but who finishes." Does not matter who starts, but who gets in the flow the quickest, shows poise, makes less errors, and gives the WR and RB's chances to make plays.

    Dam straight. rockon

    vhcat1970