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1.) Tevin Lawson. was on, and then off, and then on again. If Coach Stoops and Brumbaugh can convince Momma that her son will be taken great care of here in Lexington, and that we all know is a for sure. I think he signs.
2.) James Hearns. I know he has grade issues, but can they be over come to allow him to sign? What's the word now?
3.) Lauren Jackson. He hasn't signed yet, and I thought he has qualified. He had been higly thought of by the past Coaches, and I believe he was coached by Coach Brumbaugh. He would be a great get.
4.) Quinten James. ILB. A need that hasn't been filled in this GREAT class. He would be wonderful late edition, so why hasn't he signed?
5.) Stanley Higgins, OLB. Again a need, and he had UK listed as WARM on his likes. So what's up with him?
6.) Austin Douglas, C, 6'2", 300, JUCO. Would allow Haynes to be reshirted in the " Center" position.
7.) Taj Williams, WR, could be a package deal with Hearns. What would we have to loose to accept both of them, and HOPEFULLY get a LOI from Lawson to finish out our 25 LOI for 2012?
Chris or Josh do any of these players come to play in our 2012 LOI? What are you hearing?
This post was edited by Packman1962 17 months ago
If Lawson and his mama can be persuaded that coming to Ky is not a bad thing, and better than waiting for a yr to enroll at LSU. Then I agree we get him. Hearns, I think Stoops is going to hold a spot for him. If he gets the grades/scores necessary then I think he is a very good chance as well. Couldn't say about any of the others but I think our national ranking goes up some more before all is said and done.
Lawson is most likely of the group. I'd love to have Hearns and/or Williams, but I don't think either is likely to qualify. Lauren Jackson has been out there for a long time, but you have to think UK could've had him by now if they wanted him. If not signed, he could be a fallback for Lawson I guess. Douglas? See Jackson. Don't know much about Higgins, but if they're still out there, then there's a good chance qualification issues are the likely reason. Our old JUCO buddy David Washington is still insigned too, but again, the reason is most likely acadenic in nature.
The one not listed that interests me most (along with Lawson) would be Corn Elder (ATH) out of Nashville.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by bluedynasty 17 months ago
Taj Williams in a long shot, I don't think he has that serious of an interest in UK, but if he and Hearns qualify, there's always the chance they come together, and if Lawson is convinced to go pick UK and leave home, this defensive class is unheard of at UK. Think of Hearns, Lawson, Hatcher, Bell, Smith, McWilson, Hyde, Meant, Willis and Hytche, that's some serious talent in one class, 6 of those rated as a 4* by at least one scouting service.
If no one fills the spots, so be it, but least that means UK could sign up to 28 next year, which doesn't sound to bad with the chance for a better class for next year.
In case anyone is interested...
National Signing Day is usually the end of a high school players a look at the top players who have yet to sign with a school after National Signing Day.
Austin Douglas is walking on at Ole Miss and should already be enrolled there. The new staff wasn't interested.
I wouldn't be shocked if Lovell Peterson ends up here, but it's probably a long shot.
I told that Tennessee has entered for Hearns and feel they can have them if they want him. I would bet UK feels the same way.
I keep on hearing that James hearns is likely coming to UK they are just waiting on his semester grades.
Didn't they pretty much k ow his grades were going to be bad and were hoping for a high enough test score to make up for the sliding scale?
Tacos- I've also never seen you be right, no offense. The Hearns deal is simple - he's taking the ACT today and his scores won't be back for a month. Good score (at least get a 17/18) and he's got a shot. End-of-semester grades would be the remaining factor. So we won't be hearing about him for another few months. We're clearly his leader if he does make it. That said, 3 months is a long time.
I'm sure there's at least one current wildcat that is actively rooting for him to NOT make it here - if he makes it, somebody has to go.
This post was edited by jarhead4uk 17 months ago
LOL. Let's not start some ridiculous penis showing contest among losers whom this kid would never talk to over his eligibility. I am not trying to be right or wrong. I'm trying to discuss sports without being climbed on by some nutjob. No offense.
Fact is his current grades are forcing his required test score up among those who know. I'm just reading what other people know. You are, too.... At best.
This post was edited by TacosMcGee 17 months ago
One thing I don't really understand is what do we have to lose if we sign James Hearns?
Unless we feel really good about signing 3 other big-time prospects this spring, if we sign him and he doesn't qualify, it doesn't hurt us because we would get an extra spot for next season, meaning we can sign 26 next year instead of 25 since we only enrolled 24 players.
I was kind of in the same boat. Why not proceed with the guy? I don't know if UT got involved or not, but being from down there, all of their people told me he was suddenly on their radar. Sign that dude up. If he doesn't make it, then he doesn't make it. I think UT thought they were getting Vonn Bell at S and now have a ride to play with.
One option is signing him now and hoping he qualifies. But, there are a number of other quality players who have academic problems and other issue (see my link above). So, another option is to continue building relationships with such students and then signing or attempting to sign those who qualify or resolve other issues. Thus, still potentially signing Hearns and also not necessarily passing the spot along if he doesn't make it because there might be another high quality option available on down the road.
This staff isn't so limited on who it will go after. The door isn't closed on other highly sought after recruits who are still available. If it is closed, they just might open it up.
This is a completely different methodology at work here.
Yep, plus if he just needs a higher test score because of his GPA and he doesn't get it before August, he can always study up this fall, take the SAT & ACT a couple of times, and enroll in December. With the right preparation, those standardized tests aren't very difficult (OT, but those tests really discriminate against low-income students since they can't afford to take a prep class, which is why some schools are starting to no longer require them...the NCAA should allow colleges to fund SAT/ACT prep courses for their signees).
In the event a recruit like Harris Bivin goes up to ND this summer and gets homesick and wants to enroll at UK instead (or a recruit goes the Zeke Pike route), and we already have 25 players signed, but one of them doesn't qualify academically, can we still take him?
It seems very evident that the staff doesn't view LB as an immediate need like some of the fan base believes. Otherwise they would've signed some. Look for them to bring in some LBs next yr.
Hearns sounds more and more like a no go. Just based on grades.
Lawson is the most likely but I'm starting to think he's a no go. I think we'll end up with another 1 or 2 guys that we haven't really heard about. Or just sign more next yr.
Harris or Hunter?
Hunter signed with ND, so he can't sign with us.
If we sign 25 (out of 25 available), we can't sign any more this year because some don't qualify. If some don't qualify, their spots can be backcounted next year, giving us more than 25 if we early enroll recruits in December.
Harris enrolled and plays for Murray State and was a part of the 2010 class, IIRC. I think a scholarship offered to him would count against our 85 limit but not our 25 for this year.
With a significant change in schemes, it would make sense to draw from all of the safeties and beef them up
Hopefully no recruit goes the Zeke Pike route.... The kid ruined every single opportunity he had, Public Intoxication at Auburn, and drinking on the sideline of a game for Louisville... Don't know if he will even have a 3rd chance.
SO tevin lawson and who else?
To say those tests aren't difficult is not really an applicable statement when you are talking about kids with grade problems. Sure, a good student with good preparation should have no problem getting a 17 or 18, but when you aret alking about an athelete that has struggled in high school, you are likely talking about a student that has serious deficiencies.
A little test prep isn't gonna help you do alg, or trig, if you don't know your multiplication facts. Lots of these kids are more behind academically than you could ever imagine.
If we only sign 22 can we use 3 next year if they enroll early?
Sort of, but I'm not sure how that will work out.
We will need to have some attrition in our current roster (over and above those who have used up their eligibility) in order to bring in all 22 commits in this class.
There will only be 13 seniors in the upcoming senior class, IIRC. Therefore, we will need to cut or lose through other means of attrition an additional 12 just to have room for a full 25 in 2014. If we want to backcount not taking those last three in this class in order to bring in three extra for next class, we would need to cut an additional three. Of course, we could always just count them as part of 2014 and enroll them early.
There is something I am not sure of however. We might be able to backcount three to 2013 even if we do not bring in 25 for 2014. IOW, we might be able to count three of our 13 recruits for 2014 (or however many we make room for) as part of 2013. Then we would have 10 recruits for 2014 and the ability to backcount 15, leaving room for a huge number of early enrollees in 2015. But, I'm not sure if you can always backcount as long as their were openings in the previous year or if one can only backcount to make room over 25. I think it is the former (Georgia this year?) but I am not sure.
Romp, you are incorrect in your above post. If we allowed Hearns and Williams to sign an LOI this year and they are not academically eligible, we would lose those scholarships for the purposes of counting more than 25 LOIs in 2014.
Well, I'll be...
Now, I'm a little confused because I have read some articles that say a team can but now when searching again I found an article that says teams can't.
From the link:
The SEC’s new rules state that programs can only sign 25 players between Dec. 1 and May 31. The previous limit was 28.
Most players sign on National Signing Day, which is always the first Wednesday in February.
But programs also accept early enrollments -- such as Georgia did with Keith Marshall and two other recruits earlier this month. Under the old rules, teams had back-counted early enrollments toward the previous signing class, as a way of signing more players. That is still allowed.
But the programs were also allowed to not count players who signed but failed to qualify academically or didn’t enroll for whatever reason. The SEC clarified Monday that the new rules prevent teams from doing that anymore.
“If a player signs, he counts without regard to whether or not he actually enrolls,” SEC spokesman Charles Bloom said in an e-mail Monday. “ ‘Back counting’ is only permitted for mid-year enrollees who are able to be included as an initial counter for the academic year in which they enroll. ‘Back counting’ is an artificial term for this discussion and not accurate as the question is about the signing limit.”
I think I can see where this can get a little iffy where it talks about backcounting and comparing it to other things I have read, but it looks like I was wrong.
Can someone hand me a glass of water to wash some words down. :D
ATHENS -- Last summers burning issue in the SEC was over-signing and how the conference acted to stem it.
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