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  • I've been to the vast majority of home games in the last 7 years living in Tampa and Cleveland and am about to move to Georgia. And I plan on going to all, or at least the majority of the home games this year too. However, with the upcoming move and it being on a Thursday, I can't make it to the WKU game. I'd love to go but I'll be watching it on the U next Thursday.

    Living out of state, I really hate the Thursday night games but I realize this one is not a home game so it is what it is and I'll have to settle for not watching it in person. But I do hope as many fans as possible make it there!

  • 80 Proof said... (original post)

    It's wrong to say that Mitch had nothing to do with that game. He forced their hand on Titans stadium, which sounded like a good idea on the top, but this game is showing that very little planning or foresight went into the logistics and planning phase. This would have been better for every single party involved if we had just played the game in front of a full house at WKU's stadium.

    Do you realize how fast Joker would charge into Mitch's office and administer an ass-kicking if his AD agreed to a home game (season opener no less) on an in-state, former I-AA's home field? blackeye

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  • Jeff Drummond said... (original post)

    Why does that piss you off?

    You want people to drive 10 hours in a snow storm to watch UK football play a recent 1-AA opponent, break .500 in the SEC one freakin' time in 33+ years. Beat UT or FLA once in my adult lifetime.

    Until then shadddddddddup about basketball already.

    j/k (kinda)

    Jeff, I am so glad that level headed folks like you Matt and Chris are here to explain these things to the folks. The football team we have has wonderful support. Teams like Fla State and Miami have had a lot more football success than UK and does not have the support we do.

    And, people need to get off their inferiority complex with the B ball program because they have earned the fans support by their performance on the court. With UK basketball you are talking about arguably the best program in the history of the sport. Alabama B ball fans probably feel the same way about how the fans support their sport.

    I love UK football, but I'm objective, and I know that if they want more respect they have to earn it on the field on Saturdays (well... except when they play on Thursdays). With the exception of a few games last year (Ole Miss and Pitt) I am pleased with our progression. If we can continue to build depth, develop talent, recruit our state well, and improve our facilities over the next 2-5 years we should be in good shape to move to the 9-ish win area. Go cats! We'll worry about the double figure win stage after that.

  • Whitaker568 said... (original post)

    What pisses me off is that if this was a BB game people would drive 10 hours - one way - in a snow storm to watch the BB team play West Texas Plano Tech!!!!! & pay 10 times the face value for their ticket! lol

    It's a four drive(one way) for me and I wouldn't miss it for the world. If you see the guy with a camo hat and the UK tat (right calf) come over and have a beer and talk some UK football. #Rise!

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    This post was edited by kycatwclaws6363 3 years ago

  • Whitaker568 said... (original post)

    What pisses me off is that if this was a BB game people would drive 10 hours - one way - in a snow storm to watch the BB team play West Texas Plano Tech!!!!! & pay 10 times the face value for their ticket! lol

    It's a four drive(one way) for me and I wouldn't miss it for the world. If you see the guy with a camo hat and the UK tat (right calf) come over and have a beer and talk some UK football. #Rise!

    I get your point, you obviously exaggerated to make it. We are less than a week away from the season opener, and much of our fanbase can't even celebrate that, or get excited. Instead they bitch and gripe and complain and bash our administration about a ROAD game that is fairly close, on national TV, allows us to get some much needed experience, and that we get to share gate/concessions profits.

    We get it people, your life situation doesn't allow you to go to a Thursday game on a holiday weekend. DEAL WITH IT and stop spreading your negativity before a game has even been played! Miserable people suck the life out of this program...this sport anyway.

  • So the fans would drive to bowling green but not nashville?

  • Show me all the AD'S that did get UK football?Get over yourself.

  • Outstanding post flknopp. Agree with everything that you said in your previous response to SACat.

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  • Tskware said... (original post)

    Guys, we all have our good days and bad days. This was just a dumbass idea from the get go. I certainly hope UK and Western comes up with another better idea before we decide to go back to LP Field in 2013.

    This. And Barnhart blundered when he decided to play in Nashville twice in the same year. Many of us called it as such almost two years ago when it was announced. SOOOOO surprised the prediction is coming true. I hope it fails miserably to teach some a lesson in common sense.

  • willgabriel said... (original post)

    I hope it fails miserably to teach some a lesson in common sense.

    Can't afford to go, don't have ESPNU, aren't a UK fan, or all of the above?

  • Not sure any "fan" would wish something involving UK would failed miserably. That's like fans wishing for thier team to lose.

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  • willgabriel said... (original post)

    This. And Barnhart blundered when he decided to play in Nashville twice in the same year.

    Why blame Barnhart?

    I would assume that WKU had a strong hand in this arrangement.
    Both parties negotiated this deal and this is what they came up. Might have been the best comprimise available for both parties. I am sure it was a give and take negotiation.

    Same mentality exist in criticizing Barnhart as the lack of certain accomplishment by the team on the field. Seems there are other parties involved. People seem to forget their actions. Not everything is exclusively UK's fault.

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  • It's NOTHING like wishing UK would lose.

    Wanting IT (the selling of tickets to fans for a lousy game at LP against a weak opponent during the same year we play Vandy in Nashville) to fail can be a quite healthy request as IT may cause UK to use better sense next time they think about allowing WKU or whomever allowed the game to be played when and where it is being played to lead them into making such a stupid decision (which IT is considering the tickets still remaining to be sold that will be either be basically given away or left unsold).

    Oh, and UK is to blame at least in part as why in the world do you as the major conference player in this series allow WKU to dictate where and when you play (if that is even what happened)? Also, all the ESPN game time scuttlebutt is not as big an issue if we are playing only once in Nashville this season, and the opponent isn't one of the worst in the Bowl Division.

    Again, I hope IT fails miserably that IT is not repeated.

  • ESPN moved the game to Thursday night. The Home team (WKU) either declines or accepts the ESPN offer. To WKU the $$ from ESPN more than will offset any revenue loss from a lack of attendence. Plus they get National exposure.

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  • SanAntonioCat said... (original post)

    Mitch does a number of great things for UK athletics, but this is another of his horrific mistakes along the lines of hiring Billy Gillespie, denying UK football boosters access to the program and continuing to march along his Christian beliefs in the name of making UK a paragon of virtue in college athletics.

    I give him his due and praise what he has done for UK in terms of developing an overall positive UK competitiveness in many sports. Yet, he screws up in major decisions that defy explanation. While he has kept us off probation, he hasn't yet got the handle on what it takes to be successful in football. I'm quite sure all 10,000 fans who show up for the WKU game will appreciate Mitch for his ability to render UK football in the second tier of the SEC and barely above Vandy. But, remember, Joker said we are only "this far" away from being contenders. Thankfully, WKU will get a paycheck and we can work strenously toward vanquishing Central Michigan before mighty UofL arrives.

    My of my.

    Mitch did freeze out boosters, but to blame that on Mitch is just plain stupid...Mitch was HIRED expressly to freeze out a bunch of boosters. Remember we were just starting NCAA probation, we had an exAD being paid to retire in the Bahamas, we had another exAD try to hire his son in law as the football director of operations ignoring department anti-nepotism rules and get his(or was it a FB assistant, I can't recall exactly) kitchen remodeled gratis despite department rules against such behavior, we had the AD controlling a fleet of cars, about 50 pairs of bball season tickets that were given to the Good Ole Boy network, and god knows what else.

    So Mitch was hired to clean this crap up, and make the GOB network understand that they were to give money to UK athletics because they LOVE UK, and NOT for access. So to act like Mitch did something wrong is assinine and shows a lack of understanding of the way the wind was blowing politically inside of the UKAA at the time of Mitch's hiring. He was hired to clean up the mess and make darn sure UK kept their noses clean.

    So Mitch was just doing his job by cutting off the GOB network, and UK needed that to happen...now after ripping on this subject, I will say I agree 100% on the BCG hire.

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  • willgabriel said... (original post)

    It's NOTHING like wishing UK would lose.

    Wanting IT (the selling of tickets to fans for a lousy game at LP against a weak opponent during the same year we play Vandy in Nashville) to fail can be a quite healthy request as IT may cause UK to use better sense next time they think about allowing WKU or whomever allowed the game to be played when and where it is being played to lead them into making such a stupid decision (which IT is considering the tickets still remaining to be sold that will be either be basically given away or left unsold).

    Oh, and UK is to blame at least in part as why in the world do you as the major conference player in this series allow WKU to dictate where and when you play (if that is even what happened)? Also, all the ESPN game time scuttlebutt is not as big an issue if we are playing only once in Nashville this season, and the opponent isn't one of the worst in the Bowl Division.

    Again, I hope IT fails miserably that IT is not repeated.

    Don't know the details of the contract but this was about 2 things: (1) money and (2) scheduling issues. BCS teams are paying anywhere from 500,000 to 1,000,000 per game per cup cake these days for non returnable games.

    By doing this the other teams (Western this year & Miami O last year) did not get these big paydays and UK made money. You play on a neutral field (not the opponents home field) and make money! Win and Win again.

    Would you rather play these games at home every year? Sure. But, the climate of todays CFB will not allow for it. The final problem was the move to Thursday night which is a shame but it got us national exposure... whatcha gonna do? This is not perfect but in the end we make money for the program.

    Just bite the bullet when it comes to these things and worry about stoping their running game. I know that's my primary concern.

  • flknopp said... (original post)

    Don't know the details of the contract but this was about 2 things: (1) money and (2) scheduling issues. BCS teams are paying anywhere from 500,000 to 1,000,000 per game per cup cake these days for non returnable games.

    By doing this the other teams (Western this year & Miami O last year) did not get these big paydays and UK made money. You play on a neutral field (not the opponents home field) and make money! Win and Win again.

    Would you rather play these games at home every year? Sure. But, the climate of todays CFB will not allow for it. The final problem was the move to Thursday night which is a shame but it got us national exposure... whatcha gonna do? This is not perfect but in the end we make money for the program.

    Just bite the bullet when it comes to these things and worry about stoping their running game. I know that's my primary concern.

    I am not so sure that the "national exposure" for this Thursday's game is going to be the type of exposure that you want. It is going to be played at 9:30 on ESPNU on a school/work night. Not ESPN and not ESPN2. Some will wonder "How in the hell is an SEC team on TV, yet they can't even get priority over some of these other games?" Also, how good is it going to look when people (i.e. recruits) tune in and see what I expect is going to look like a crowd you'd expect to see at a large high school game?

    Other than maybe making a little more money than we would by giving WKU a true home game, I don't see much benefit to this setup at all. With that said, I am making the drive up from Birmingham for the game and will be cheering with the best of 'em. I just don't see any way this one can be spun as a great idea or a "win" for UK football. The whole "But we're on national TV on opening night of college football" spin is true, but a bit misleading as well as this is not a 7:00 game on ESPN with a good crowd to get recruits excited.

  • 7lives said... (original post)

    welcome

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  • I have read every post on this thread and everyone seems to be missing one point. There are a ton of UK fan living here in Nashville. yes we play Vandy here but is it so bad to move the game one hour south to LP Field? UK is recruiting this area hard and the fans here will go to the game and love it. Seems a win win to me. Let us UK fans here in Nashville enjoy this game at LP field watching UK kick some WKU A$$.

    This post was edited by NashvilleCat197 3 years ago

  • NashvilleCat197 said... (original post)

    I have read every post on this thread and everyone seems to be missing one point. There are a ton of UK fan living here in Nashville. yes we play Vandy here but is it so bad to move the game one hour south to LP Field? UK is recruiting this area hard and the fans here will go to the game and love it. Seems a win win to me. Let us UK fans here in Nashville enjoy this game at LP field watching UK kick some WKU A$$.

    Absolutely agree. We have alumni in Nashville and Cincy and those are reasons we go to those places. Again, this situation is not perfect but its far from a big issue. It is certainly not an issue to bash Mitch over.

    I planned on taking my boys to the game but my oldest has a track meet and will not be able to make it from east Tennessee to Nashville that quickly.

  • I'm thinking it will be close to 35K by kickoff. Expect several walk-ups due to the ease at which tickets are available. I think that played a role in slow advance sales.

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  • Who cares how many are there. UK/WKU are on ESPNU at 9:15 against nothing else. Everybody is chomping at the bit for college football and they'll be tuned in to watch the 'Cats and Hilltoppers tonight. That is a win-win, IMO. Big Blue will put an ass whoopin' on Western and will look VERY good doing it. That is nothing but great for Joker and Co.

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