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As individuals they all have good talent and can play ball but as a"TEAM" they arent really very good at all. They simply havent come together like the 2010 team did and Im doubtful if they ever will. I hope they prove me wrong but I think its a long shot at this point in time. These are strong willed individuals that have resisted how to play as a team and that is the 1 thing the previous 3 teams of Cal has had and won with. I think it is a real possibility that UK doesnt make the tourney if they dont beat Fla. and Miss and Missouri. The selection committee wont put KY in the tourney based on previous years success and this year so far there isnt any wins that would give them a reason to include KY in the tourney.
Bazz has a chance to be a star pretty similar to James Harden. Noel has a chance to be a star too.
Calling this group a team is using the concept of team very losely.This is more of a collection of players more interesting in their own stats and working their way toward an NBA contract than playing team basketball.
These guys are more likely to be one and none than one and done,with either transferring or riding the bench next year.
We basically have a 7 man rotation when WCS is healthy.
*Noel - Pretty much as advertised. Plays his ass off.
*Wiltjer - Needs other SAVY, talented players around for him to excel in a role he is comfortable with.
*WCS - Raw, but tremendous potential.
*Mays - Would probably have been the 8th-9th man in the 3 previous years.
*Harrow - Very erratic, not very strong physically. If he stays he will see his PT drastically reduced next year.
*Poythress - Talented, but doesn't seem to be emotionally or physically invested, and has way too many stretches where you forget he's even in the game.
*Goodwin - Plays out of control most of the time, and either can't or won't pass the ball off. Very poor outside shooter and for a guy who gets to the line as much as he does, he doesn't appear to care one way or the other if he makes his foul shots.
* Polson - I like Polson. He can give you some nice 2-5 minutes spots without hurting you too much. Might even be a starter or at least a major contributor in some OVC programs.
*Hood - A guy who should probably play a little more considering the rest of this bunch, but he's a guy who would have never gotten an offer if Cal had already been at UK.
*Beckham - I'm not even sure why he is on the team. Really disappointed that he hasn't put himself in a position to play more.
*"Three Cigar Men" - I won't even bother with details, but I don't know why you have these guys who would be lucky to start on some of the better high school teams in my area. Your main rotation players gain nothing from going against these guys in practice.
Yeah, this just isn't a very good basketball team right now, and I really don't see it getting much better.
Beg to differ as to who'll be back-most NBA mocks still have Goodwin and WCS as lottery picks-besides, who exactly is Goodwin going to beat out for a spot next year?? Either Harrison is a better player than Archie-even as we speak...
Sure, but in last year's draft, for example, they probably would have been late lottery picks.
Nate, you are right these players dont suck. Each and evryone has a good level of talent but they cant seem to learn what Cal has been trying to teach them about playing as a team not like a playground pickup game of good players. These guys may get along off the court but they sure dont get along as a team on the court. Archie is the perfect example of what Im talking about, when he gets the ball he charges the basket with his only goal being to put up a shot and not thinking of how he could maybe give a fellow teammate a pass so they can score. I have no problem with Archie being agressive but to be of single purpose when he has the ball is selfish which has been pointed out by more than a couple of other posters.
No Noel would have likely gone 3rd ahead of Bradley Beal and if Shabazz was here at UK you'd be singing a different tune about him.
I don't think so. This is a weak draft. Look at last year's draft and think about where Noel and Shabazz would go if they were in it after their play this year, not as they would have been seen as high school seniors. If Noel and Shabazz were in that situation, in last year's draft, I think they would have been in the 12-15 range. If they went in right out of high school they probably would have been higher, as deficiencies in their game have been highlighted.
Your team should be much better based on the talent level.
Agree to disagree I guess. Noel would have most definitely gone in the top 5 IMO and like I said I think he would have gone ahead of Beal. He's a big man that can block shots with the best of him. Not many guards are going to be taken over him in any draft. Beal isn't really all that special either. He's good not great. Shabazz absolutely goes ahead of Austin Rivers so that puts him in the top 10 without question but I think he might have even gone higher than that.
You think he would be top 5 compared to last year's picks even with: A. how he's played this year, and B. how Kentucky has done this year?
It's not really an apples-to-apples comparison to just say "he would have been a top 5 pick last year".
How has he played this year? He has Noah's heart, energy, and athleticism (if not more), blocks better (more often and the ball stays in play), steals a lot more(meaning he is quicker and just as long), and rebounds well (now). BTW, Noah is considered as one of the better centers in the NBA.
The question is would you have taken him over Bradley Beal, Dion Waters, or Thomas Robinson. My answer would be yes
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