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7 seed in the West, trending down. Any thoughts? Obviously too early to even care about it, just saying....
If the tournament started tomorrow and that was our bracket I would feel very confident this team has a shot at the Final Four.
This team will finish in the two to four seed range. Keep in mind that teams in the Big East and Big Ten will beat up on each other, therefore there will be a lot volatility in those team's projected seeding from now until season's end.
Personally, I don't think there is a team these young Cats can't beat. So barring some complete chemistry meltdown I don't really care where Lunardi projects us at anytime other than after the completion of the SEC tourney.
i actually like this bracket.
Our fans travel well, so going west coast is fine.
We would play against favorable teams, in that bracket.
Unless they go undefeated in the SEC they ain't gonna get a 2 seed. That's almost next to impossible at this point w/no quality OOC victories and the SEC being down. I think a 3-5 seed is the most likely scenario which is just fine.
Two SEC losses and win the conference tourney and they'll be in the discussion. I realize conferences make a difference, but remember Michigan St was a 1 seed last year with 7 losses heading into the tourney. Likewise, Duke and Kansas were two's with 6 losses and OSU was a 2 with 7.
I'm not saying that's what I think they'll end up with, but I am saying they have a shot if they take care of business in the SEC. They will have to win in Gainesville to get a 2 though.
Not with no quality wins in the OOC and a weak SEC. Impossibility.
I couldn't have said it better.
I believe what you have said is completly accurate. The preconference part of UKs schedule is abissmal. No quality wins at all and the home loss to Baylor an unranked team also really hurt and though they are 9-0 against the pushover teams that were amassed again wont help even if they did beat those teams by good size margins. I dont believe KY will make it to a #2 seed under any circumstance so a 4-6 seed may be the best possible outcome and Im not so sure that a seeding within that range is such a bad thing This years 18 game conference schedule will be a long and grinding effort on the [art of this young team but if they continue to improve like they have over the past 3-4 weeks then things will be much rosier looking come mid-Febuary.
we can get 2 seed, but in order to do that we basically have to go undefeated in SEC regular season and tournament.
which will be rough.
Also, we have to see what happens in big ten. Some team start off great and tank later.
If you look at big ten, there is michigan, indiana, minnesota, wisconsin, Illinois, michigan state, and Ohio state. They can literally knock each other down quite a bit.
Duke is pretty safe bet, but beyond that any of the team can drop few games here and there. Which means if UK finishes hot, they can easily be ranked 2nd.
EDIT: i don't mean easily ranked 2nd. If we go undefeated in SEC, we can EASILY be ranked. But chance of that happening is slim to none. Just for clarification.
This post was edited by Wildmoon 15 months ago
I think the turning points on how good of a record we have in the SEC are Poythress catching fire and Wiltjer continuing his hot 3 pt shooting b/c a lot of SEC teams will try some kind of zone against KY to keep Noel and WCS in check. If Mays and Wiltjer can also catch fire from the perimeter then the opposing team cant stay in that zone and loosens things up for the 3 big guys. Archie, if he improves his decision making ability when he drives the ball then that will also give KY a boost. I know those are quite a few # of things that have to happen for KY to have a very successful SEC run but it is possible and if any coach can make it happen then its Cal no doubt.
IMO, the likely one seeds come tourney time are going to be Duke (see Wildmoon's post), Kansas (no real Big 12 challengers), Louisville (possible Cuse), and the Big Ten winner. The winner of the SEC, Big Ten next two teams, and probably Cuse are the two's.
I know some disagree and we can agree to disagree, but if the Cats can go 16-2 in conference play and win the SEC tourney they will have a shot. Likely? Probably not, but it's in the realm of possibility.
The last argument that it could happen is we don't have to play any top tier SEC besides Ole Miss until mid-February. That gives this young team plenty of time to work out the remaining issues. Drop an early SEC turd and my tune will change.
I actually don't think Kansas will be top seed.
They have played basically the easiest schedule to date. They played 2 ranked teams, they beat ohio state and lost to michigan state. No offense to Ohio state but they are extremely over rated. After that they have practically played no one, and they aren't really dominating those teams.
They barely beat Iowa State at home, luckily making the banked 3 at the end of the game.
I see Duke, Big Ten Winner (michigan or Indiana), Louisville, and Arizona. Zona plays in Pac12, i don't think they have that much competition. So they won't lose enough to drop out of top 4.
Completely forgot about Arizona and how High they're ranked. It's funny the longer it's been since I began following Pomeroy the less I pay attention to traditional polls.
If Arizona is a 1 seed, which at this point it probable, they will be the first 1 to lose in the tourney if they don't improve. They have won two close games, one that they were very lucky to. On top of that, there are currently 14 teams playing for efficient basketball and that includes UK.
oh yeah, Arizona could easily lose in third round (ugh hate calling it third round...) Second game.
I believe that the 4 #1 seeds will be 1. Duke(if Kelly comes back 100%). 2. Michigan 3. Indiana 4. Louisville I think that the Big 10 with its overall strength is the reason that I think they will get the 2 #1 seeds of IU and Michigan. Arizona is a possible choice also but I think they lose a couple of games at least in their conference but does have a couple of good wins already over ranked teams but I also think they leave the tourney by the elite 8.
I could see us ending up the 4 seed in Indiana's bracket for a little reversal seed rematch. That would just make too much sense if we do end up with a 4 seed which I think is very likely personally.
not sure i am up for better ranked team with more motivation.
They will come out firing, prefer we don't play indiana this year.
I do agree with you there. Right now it's the most likely seed we get.
I can see the possibility of UK being a 4 seed which would be a decent position to be in. About playing Indiana Im not sure we could handle them but I would like to see how much KY improves from this point till the SEC tourney then decide if I would love to see that matchup or not but regardless which region we end up in we will eventually have to play a high caliber team so what the heck lets play Louisville and see what happens.
I actually like our chances to get a 3 seed. I think Florida gets a 2, mizzou a 5, and ole miss a 6. That's prolly it from the sec. This is if we get thru conference play with 2 or 3 losses. We have a great chance to move way up the polls if we can reel off 10 in a row, while others knock each other off in conference play. Too early to tell, we will definitely know more in about 3 weeks...
Ole Miss gets a 6 seed. Really?
We are UK. We're not gonna sneak past anybody.
Even if we win this Vandy game my tune might be changing slightly.
I'm kinda scared to watch this game tomorrow on DVR. I'm working right now and listening to it. Sounds like Witjer for one has just been absolutely pitiful defensively.
1st half was a good one with Harrow This is a game of 2 halves played in 2 different dimensions. The 1st half was a good 20 minutes of B-BALL with Harrow looking fantastic and KY goes into the halftime break with a double digit lead. Then the 2nd half starts and the Cats are playing in the Twilight Zone or should I say they are playing against the Vanderbilt Zone. They became completely unhinged and squandered the double digit lead to fall behind by 2. They had just enough in their tanks to win by 2 and that was with a little help from the officials when they missed that shotclock violation and KY kept the 2 pts scored by Noel. Wiltjer wasnt in the game on either end of the court and Poythress continued his play of the last 8-9 games. Harrow was simply amazing in the 1st half and wasnt 1/2 bad in the 2nd. He was the games MVP by far. I just dont understand how the Dores got so many offensive rebounds and still lost.
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