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If only it were possible that both teams lose this game
I would love to see Louisville win. Their fans suck, but I still like it when Kentucky teams win.
It's all going to depend on how the game is called in this one IMO.
Comments like pitino made today essentially saying coaching had nothing to Do with the 1992 duke loss are what make me have absolutely no desire to see uofl basketball accomplish anything.
He is pathological, egotisitical, maniacal, hypocritical, and just about every other negative adjective in the book.
My dislike of Rick has very little to do with him choosing to coach at uofl. It was the best job at the time.
It's his passive aggressive jabs at our program, our players and our coach along with his extreme socio-pathic behavior along with his terrible morals that make me dis-like he and uofl.
Couple all of that with them being our in-state rival, the massive cultural differences with their school and ours along with the fact that their fanbase is the most rude and annoying in the country...
It's easy for me to root for duke tomorrow. (I hope duke loses their next game.
"Massive cultural differences?" Please explain.
Urban commuter school in a Midwestern style city vs. charming sec school in a much more charming southern city.
Separated by only 80 miles but might as well be 1000.
So the fact that UofL is an urban institution (said in the pejorative) is a contributing reason for you to want Duke to win tomorrow?
Just trying to understand where you are coming from.
No, uofl plays a critical role in our state.
It's the "differences" In the schools I was pointing out. It's part of what makes the rivalry so intense. Much like duke is the private school in relation to Unc being public uk being the aristocratic sec school compared to uofl being the urban commuter school.
Nothing wrong with that. Just a difference.
But evidently it is a hateable difference, lol.
I agree there is an urban/rural/small town split in cultural terms between Louisville and UK perceptions. But by far the most hatred-invested fans seem to be those UK fans who live in Louisville. It must suck hating the city you live in and finding yourself unable to have pride in your town because of your basketball loyalties. It's fairly hard to find sympathy, also. Face it, it's a First World Problem, lol.
"There is an eloquence in true enthusiasm."
Edgar Allen Poe
I've never used the word hate.
Ps: You are the one trolling your rivals' site.
And yes, I am glad I don't have to live in Louisville.
You guys don't understand the difference in rivalry and hatred. I don't hate anybody. I do root against rivals though. I hope uofl loses every game they play. Why? It's competition.
Speaking of actual basketball, I think UofL takes the game today. I just think Duke's style is amenable to us. When we played in the Bahamas, Duke was definitely already playing at a very high level. That game was tied at 56 in the late stages and we missed some FT's. That we did that without Dieng most UofL fans felt delightful about. This is a rematch we have waited for all season.
Missing your conference Defensive POY had to hurt - and I think it did. We know them well but they don't know us with Gorgui. I like our chances.
Trolling the site? It's fine if you suspect anyone from somewhere else who ever appears in print in here is a troll. It must make your list of acquaintances about as wide as your county.
I love living in Louisville, lol. Before this, I lived in Vancouver, BC, San Francisco, Reno and Portland, Oregon. Louisville is equally interesting. The food alone is fabulous.
I live in St. Matthews, Ky not Louisville. HA HA. And now that we got Hatcher I can root for the local high school. Thank you Jason. But home will always be in Muhlenberg County-Big Blue Country. It must really suck to hate the school in the state in which you live. Huh Senore?
I'm from Owensboro, originally. I actually know many of your older UK heroes and competed against many of them. I might add, they know me. My high school coach played with Cliff Hagan and Ramsey - Bobby Watson, the PG for that team. My HS football coach played for the Bear and the Orange Bowl team and was hired as Alabubba's track coach in order to get one of our players. I got to know Mike Casey by playing baseball against him. I could name drop all day, in fact.
There is much to absolutely detest about our fine state. But there is an awful lot to like as well. Just like everything else, nothing is perfect. I don't mind UK one bit. I have rooted for them many, many times. It's Calipari I don't like and that won't be changing any time soon. I share those feelings with many UK fans, for the record.
I just think Calipari hijacked normal competitive relations between the schools and is the sand in our mutual oyster. When he leaves, I'll be glad to feel better about UK.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by senore 13 months ago
I live in Louisville, and I fricking HATE all things University of Louisville. HATE!! I do have a ton of respect for what their AD has been able to accomplish with their football program, though. Very impressive, but I still HATE them all.. Sincerely- Small Minded UK Fan and Alum
LOL, don't tell hoptown! He's above all that.
Minter, does it make you hate the town itself, your feelings? Do you find yourself looking for negative facets of the city more because you hate their teams?
So you're a big Pitino guy?
Louisville has become the anti-Cal. We are graduating players, seeing team GPA's such as this season's 3.41, producing Academic All Americans such as Peyton Siva and including 4 regional academic all regional players (more than any other university), all responding to the urges of those in power at UofL who believed that in raising our academic profile, we would be attractive enough to find a permanent spot in a great conference - and which would produce a synergy on other levels of research and accomplishment.
I have never really had anything remotely similar to the issue you guys seem to have with the man. He may very well be an egotist, but I see someone aging and mellowing and actually applying wisdom to the game of basketball and team dynamics. His defenses have become fascinating and no team in America works as hard as Louisville teams - for better or for worse.
Honestly, what's not to like?
Lots of things I HATE about the city of Louisville, but most are unrelated to UL. This is a city still stuck in 1950's anti-segregation laws that have DESTROYED the public school systems. People from all over the country look at this city and mock it over the archaic - political decision that has proven to be a failure. As a result, many lower middle class families never get the chance to rise above that status because all of their income goes towards over priced private schools. It's a vicous cycle. I don't have children, but I see this happening to many of my friends that do.
As a result of the "anti-segregation" social experiment, this city has ended up being more segregated than any city of it's size that I've ever seen. You can't hide it. It even plays out in the whole UK vs UL rivalry, and everyone knows it.
On the plus side, Louisille does have a food/dining scene, though. LoL
This post was edited by MinterWonderlnd 13 months ago
You're such a blind idiot, the reason you're "graduating" players is not because Pitino is chosing a different method of which to run a program. You're graduating players because UL's staff simply can't land top players that ultiamtely leave early. Pitino has swung and missed at so many early entrants over the last yrs, but he can't close ANY of them.
As far as "raising our academic profile" to get into a different conference. That's laughable. The only reason you're in the ACC is because other schools left the conference, and the only programs the ACC had to chose from were Uconn and UC. Hell, WVA was considered a much more palatable option to conferences than UL.
You're living in a dream land if you think conference presidents and regents look at UL any different today from an academic standpoint than they did 15 years ago.
You're also living in a dream world if you think Pitino is simply "chosing" to run a program that graduates players and goes out of his way to avoid "one and done's". HE CAN'T GET THEM. If he could, u know deeep down that he would.
If you are correct, Minter, then developing guys like Russ Smith - a 2 star - into an All American must illustrate one of the greatest coaches in history. Hasn't this been your football mantra now for a few decades? "Diamonds in the rough?"
Once again, I consider the "anti-Cal" argument as valid as it can be. Nor does this even approach how much you miss by on the academics level. Even if the conference shifts did not include UofL, I find it hard to argue with what's going on over there. I mean, are you actually contemptuous of that, really? Have you followed the football or baseball teams' academic status?
I love how "appealing" WVU is. Please go on.
This post was edited by senore 13 months ago
I'm not questioning Pitino's coaching ability, that's for sure. He's a Hall of Famer. The fact is, he has no choice but to "coach up" players like Russ Smith. Why? Look what happens when he gets his hands on kids that are considered "NBA talents" coming out of highschool. Dieng will be only the 2nd player in Pitino's 9-10 year coaching run at UL that he has given "his blessing" to leave early. Think about that. The other top talents (Clark, Samardo, Derrick Character, ect) realize that they're being held back, and fold up their tents and move on. Rick has success with kids that he can mind F*&K and control and keep in his grasp. He holds kids back for selfish reasons. As a result, he'll never get kids like Anthony Davis, M Teague. It's not because he doesn''t want them (like he's attempting to convinve the media), it's because EVERYONE now knows he's going to keep them on campus as long as he can, regardless if they're ready or not for the next level.
"Fold their tents and move on?" Is this UK Conventional Wisdom? I grant you the man had enormous problems over reaching for recruits like Telfair, Donte Smith and Amir Johnson, which cost him Rondo, for example. I attribute much of that to his absolute lack of attention to the college game while he was at Boston.
I see Rick's real tenure as beginning with Garcia and Dean. I could also say Calipari was suddenly revealed as a winner after the Cards and half the CUSA bailed owing to his 5 year string, competing with them, which included 3 NITs. Use whatever time frame you want,. but now is now, to me. The development of players takes time unless you recruit an NBA roster type of team. 4 of the last 6 years, Louisville has made the Elite Eight. This year we have far more than a puncher's chance to win it all. This would - if successful of course - mean that Rick and John would have virtually identical records over John's tenure here. I doubt you would rate that a failure.
You seem to imply that Rick holds players back in order to serve his purposes. I disagree. He also offers a pretty good option - a degree.
Minter just mind f*$$#ed you senore. Caused he just laid out the absolute truth of the situation. Its funny how Cards fans were saying the same exact thing two years ago and were ready to get rid of Rick. Now with the Cards looking good and one bad year under Cal they think things have changed when they really haven't. Cal is still 4-1 in his time here over the Cards and that number will continue to swell. Another title coming to an Arena 75 miles NorthEast next year. Cards fans just better hope they get one this year or its really gonna sting when we hang that banner next year. Cause it takes Rick years to build a title team. It takes Cal one recruiting class.
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