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Chris, have you been in touch with him lately? I know its a long shot to get him out of GA, but like to hear his status coming from a UK reporter instead of Georgia.
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Sounds like Georgia is the firm leader with Vandy the darkhorse. UK definitely has some ground to make up and is probably a long shot.
I hate hearing that but thanks for the info.
Vandy, Vandy, Vandy I am sick of Vandy already.
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I think UGA has 24 commitments...and his momma's favorite is likely UK.
UGA is still looking to take 3 maybe even 4 more DL if they are the right 4. I expect Woods to be one of those.
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So Georgia going to be able to go over 25? Or just dropping current commits
We are going to be way over 25. Closer to 32ish is the goal for this class. We only signed 19 in the last class so we can back count up to 6 EEs towards the previous class. We are WAY behind in terms of numbers. With all the injuries, transfer etc we need to sign a boat load because we dont have very guys on scholarship right now.
Pretty much false as I understand the new 25 limit SEC rules, no way are you people gonna be allowed to do that
Why the heck did you guys only sign 19 last year? that is crazy, i just looked at it.
They probably had 66 returning players still on scholarship or 66 returning players they planned to keep on scholarship. That would leave 19 openings.
I wish that was the reason. Part of it was because we saved a scholarships for guys who were announcing on NSD (AVery Young, Cordarrelle Patterson) and struck out with a few guys we were pretty confident on. Also the DC Grantham isnt willing to sign a guy he sees as a plan B or back up guy so when we missed on some guys late we didn't make a run at a lower ranked guy. There was some controversy over it amongst the fans. I think we made the right move because even though we only brought in 19 guys last year(we could have taken upwards of 24) we brought in some serious talent. Also we are doing pretty dang well in this class and are adding some serious depth. If we had taken more guys last class we may not have room for a guy like Jay Woods who I am extremely high on.
I promise you we are allowed to do that and we will be doing just that. While there is a 25 limit max, we only signed 19 in the last class so we can have 9 guys from this class EE and they would could towards last class, not this one. That way we can bring in more than 25 players in this class.
What are you using to draw this conclusion? I have looked around for official explanations but can't find them. The info is hard to come by. Can you provide a link to something other than speculation?
Thanks in advance
I believe if players enroll in January they can be counted to the previous class as long as it was under 25 and as many guys until that previous class, plus January enrollees, equals 25. So I believe they are able to have up to 6 guys enroll in January and sign 25 in February.
Like last recruiting year. UK signed 25 guys in February but Kory Brown enrolled in January, thus making 26 guys counting towards '12 recruiting class but only 25 counting towards the signing period.
That doesn't answer my question.
I've read a lot of posts from a lot of different people saying a lot of different things but I have yet to see sourcing for claims made. That is what I am looking for so as to decide whether or not to believe one side or another.
Or, you can sign up to 25 and no more than 25 on NSD but you can fill out the remainder of available scholarships (out of the 85) in January.
That could be correct too I guess, but I don't see too many teams having 25 scholarship seniors and being under the 85 man limit in which your situation would suggest. Regardless, in the SEC there is still ways for teams to get more than 25 guys each recruiting period proving Georgia can likely get 30+ if they want.
I have yet to see anything other than claims without sourcing to justify. Just saying it is so doesn't make it so.
Or, a team can sign 25 players (to fill out the 85) and have three not qualify. This would allow for three more to enroll on scholarship in January (juco grad or leave HS early) if they chose to wait. There are many ways this can occur.
A quick search lef to this article outlining the rule changes that were enacted. It doesn't specify the "provision" for back-counting but from the way it's worded it implies a program can only sign 25 per class (it doesn't matter if some don't qualify they still count toward the 25, this is why it's considered a "hard cap") but can also back-count early enrollees to the previous class (not to exceed the class limit of 25 total).
-Reduced the permissible number of signees from 28 to 25 and moves the start date for the window for counting date back to Dec. 1. There would still a provision for "back-counting" signees if a school had less than 25 incoming initial counters in the preceding year.
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It should be noted that this has some funny wording. Point being that this statement says they plan to include such a provision (There would still a provision for "back-counting" signees) rather than that such a provision has been included. Further, since it had not been included at he time, the specifics were not spelled out.
I don't think it is an accident that such conditional wordings are used and it is always occurs as paraphrasing. Not only do reports tend to have such "anomalies", but the actual SEC wordings can't be found published by the SEC (i.e. on their site or directly quoting SEC rules).
But, maybe I am being too stringent in my examination.
For the record I am just passing along what I've learned from UGA mods and recruiting analysts. What I've been told by Rusty over at Georgia's site is that we can take up around 32-34 guys. Part of that is because we only took 19 last year and two didn't qualify. We have a bunch of guys who want to EE and can count towards last years class allowing us to pass the 25 commit limit for this class. I am by no means an expert when it comes to this rule, I don't think anyone completely understands it, nobody I've talke to a least. All I know for sure is that the UGA mods on each site are saying we can take around 32-34 this class and Richt himself said we are trying to sign 30+ guys.
Recruits that sign but don't qualify still count toward the 25 per class limit. If UGA signed 19 last year and only 16 qualified it still counts as 19 for the class. UGA should be able to sign a total of 31 (25+6EE's) for this year.
The UGA staff could be planning on asking certain recruits to delay their enrollment (gray-shirt) until the following year (although they wouldn't sign a LOI on signing day). That would make them a part of the 2014 class instead of 2013. But the recruit would still have the option of signing elsewhere and other teams could still recruit them until they enrolled.
Found this online:
NCAA recruiting regulations limit college football teams to signing 25 players to football scholarships each year, with certain exceptions. A team can not sign more than 25 players to scholarships in a given year if it has used the full 25 in the previous year. If the team used fewer than 25 scholarships the previous year, the additional players above 25 for the new season must enroll in December of the year before the football season in which they intend to play. Regardless of how many players a college signs, they must remain below the maximum permitted number of scholarships. Over-signing is done to prepare for the possibility that some players who were offered scholarships fail to qualify academically, or to make up for previous years where the school could not sign their full allotment.
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