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HA HA. We'll probably disagree many more times brother. I just enjoy discussing this kind of stuff.
Me too. The best thing about sports discussions is irrational sports belief/hatred. For instance, I *hate* Stanford, with a passion. More than Duke and Tennessee.
I don't disagree about Archie improving his stock if he came back. I am also not in anyway being critical of Doron. All I am saying is saying is that Archie has some physical gifts that Doron doesn't have. They are both 2 guard's in the league, but Archie has more length.
But Doron had a team each of his 2 years. Made him look amazing and now he gets occasional minutes in Orlando. Archie is going to play more and make more if he stays another year.
Archie has a lot to gain by staying..sharing the ball and improving the jump shot would help his rep tremendously
There's gotta be at least 2 players for Florida Gulf Coast who deserve to be drafted before Poythress or Goodwin.
No offense... but they're about as ready for the NBA as I am. (48, white, out of shape... you get the point)
This post was edited by JawJacker 13 months ago
The NBA draft ceased to be about who was "ready" for the league, oh, 20 years ago at least.
Kobe wasnt ready for the NBA when he came out.
Neither was Kevin Garnett.
The only straight to the league player that was has been Lebron, IMO.
Maybe Dwight as well.
Wall wasnt ready. Davis wasnt ready. Noel definitely wasnt ready. This year's pick out of college won't be ready.
M. Teague will NEVER showcase his talent if he stayed 8 years in college and was drafted to a team with D. Rose. D. Rose simply commands the ball and controls that team. That example is bad.
If a more talented player is ahead of you on the roster, your chances to display come in practice, not during game time.
A simple question: is your butt jealous of the amount crap coming from your mouth?
Isn't that part of the point? If Teague had stayed an extra year then he would NOT have still been available for a team like the Bulls to draft him. He would be able to improve his draft stock immensely and look at going to a team that would play him the desired minutes, hence improving his marketability on contract #2.
I would argue that Teague has a much, much better chance of sticking around past his first contract starting out as a backup for Derrick Rose than he would if he would have started out as "the man" on a crappy team. He gets to go against the best in the business every day in practice, play with a good, motivated team, and still retains a little bit of that "enigma" mystique that gets kids drafted on potential. We've seen too many good players go into situations that they weren't prepared for and get flushed down the proverbial NBA toilet when they're through their first contract.
I think without a doubt that Lamb was a better overall player his freshman year opposed to Archie. If I remember correctly Lamb broke the record for points scored in one game by a freshman. I also can see the argument that Goodwin has more upside but Goodwin doesn't or isn't I should say in Lambs league right now period. Here is the thing Archie can pass but he doesn't! He needs a few more years of college just to learn how to play with other talented players.
Here's the thing u don't see him doing that at UK. Because of that I can see him going pro mainly because I don't think he would do very well competing for minutes next year. If he stays at UK this year then he will be there at least 3 maybe 4 years and I don't see that happening. Look though Lamb has a great skill set and so does Archie but Lamb will be in the league 10 plus years and if Archie goes he will play maybe 5 or 6 years. Problem with athletes like Goodwin is there are plenty of them shooters like Lamb well there isn't as many lol.
Teague would have easily been a top 10 pick this year and would have nearly tripled his guaranteed money. As hoptown said, he also probably would have had a chance to actually work towards a better second contract. He was the only guy from last year's team who I think made a bad decision.
As for WCS, he is the only guy that I think would absolutely benefit by coming back. Next year's team would minimize all of his flaws. He would have a legit PG to distribute, wings that can actually keep teams from packing it in on him defensively, and he would have plenty of help on the defensive side. Plus the team will be able to get out in the open court more, which I think is his best attribute for a guy his size. He goes from just outside of the lottery to easily in the top 10. A pretty substantial pay increase.
Poythress and Archie are going to have a lot of minutes to share, especially if we were to somehow land Wiggins. Just don't think their stock would get much higher than now with the stronger front end of the 2014 draft (past 10-12 it is still crap though).
If Poy and Archie come back they could end up being 3 year guys. Which could be the best thing that every happened to both of them. Because for one 2015 will probably be a semi down year again. No where near like this year but somewhat down to the point where if they stay they can find themselves in the top 15 picks or higher. Especially Poy because of his upside. These guys have got to learn the game. Its as simple as that. Sometimes it takes more than a couple years. There is nothing wrong with that. These guys need time to mature. Time with Cal will do nothing but help them as grown as men.
Maybe one or two from this class will stay and make us a veteran team so we will ink together quickly
Of course it's my point. But birdseat can't read well enough to understand... As my grandmother used to say, "bless his heart, he's touched"
Are you familiar with Chris Paul and Eric Bledsoe?
If he's a die hard uk fan like most of us then yes he knows of Bledsoe. If he watches twenty minutes of sportscenter then he knows Paul. Probably has a clue on what the two statements have in common
Well I'm pretty sure BIrdshit is not a UK fan.
Lol. Not sure he knows a whole lot of bball outside Siva is better than Wall. I'm still laughing my ass off at those who said that.
The question becomes why did E. Bledsoe get a chance to display his wares? C. Paul was injured.
E. Bledsoe is also head and shoulders better than M. Teague. But it may have been simple hyperbole as to why the Clippers were bent on trading E.Bledsoe.
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