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I guess you feel entitled to bitch. I don't really know what you want to happen either. Things have been going good over the last several years and Mitch has done more for the program than just about anyone else thats why I really don't understand what your beef is. Rooting for a team, going to games, spending money has been your choice and now you feel you deserve what exactly. Joker and Co. are working their asses off to win football games which is all anyone should expect.
The only thing that I would add is that the last two seasons not only don't qualify as the "worst" two seasons of this decade, but don't qualify as the "worst" two seasons of any of the FOUR decades that I've followed UK football. That's not to say that I am happy with the results of the last two seasons, but I've seen way more seasons than not in the past where I would have taken that in a heartbeat.
RV says ...
to both of these outstanding posts!
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by IamRV 22 months ago
+1 my friend.... and the same goes for JDLaw
Big difference between paying $700 a year for a mediocre product and $2400. That was the biggest decision maker for me not to renew this year after 15 years. It's just getting too expensive and IMHO not a wise return on my investment.
I don't believe its the win/loss record that people are complaining about. Its the way we got there. Struggling against wku, getting humiliated Vandy and s car. Not to mention losing to Louisville and getting crushed by lsu and Florida. I also believe a coach means more than facilities. Take Florida And zook for example. The one question I have for people is would you come or let your child play for this staff if you had other options?
We had no QB last year. Started a guy that couldn't throw a 5 yard slant, and then had to rely on freshman. Of course we got humiliated and struggled.
Absolutely I'd let my child play for this staff.
Blah Blah Blah Blah....I've been a fan, financial supporter, and season ticket holder since 1802....
Blah Blah Blah Blah....I've had enough.....
Blah Blah Blah F'n BLAH!
Seriously, if there's one post more used than the FARRRRRR Joker or FARRRRRR MB garbage its the "I've been faithful and loyal and been to every game...etc from the LOD.
What's hilarious to me is all these 100+ year fans who have been here (and at every game no less) simcr leather helmets and after witnessing UK be beyond terrible these people are ready to throw in the towel after what's been the best 6-7 year run in arguable UK's football history. I just wish some of you guys realized how ridiculous you all sound.
"After winning 2-3 games a year I'm just sick and damn tired of winning 6-8 games a year...." just ignorant imo.
Wasn't it the old timers, loyal season ticket holders, founding fore fathers of UK football, and basically 99% of the fanbase that were screaming about "id be happy if we were just a consistent bowl team" early the Brooks era?
Me too, without question!
Some great post in this thread. +1 to you all!
I'm pretty sure I can speak for most when I say that I am so damn sick and tired of reading the same uneducated and ignorant posts like this over and over.
MB cares nothing about football. He admin has put no effort into improving the program or facilities. Its the same bullshit from the same group all the time. You and your UK hating ass cohorts simply refuse to acknowledge fact, and insist on making up your own all in order to feed your hate fueled agenda.
Fans like you that actually DO own season tickets, have absolutely no right to have them. I don't care what you may have paid for them. The program and the young men out there in the field deserve far better than fans like that in the seats.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by tommy 22 months ago
Tommy, The carpet will be BLUE for you (JJ, WM, & Cobby too!). Same as it is for any True UK Fan (LODers need not apply).
JJ, The chili is always the last home game. Other games the menu is more traditional; ribs, grilled pork tenderloin, etc.
Plus, it looks like I'm making the trip to Arkansas with Irish Poker Dog & his frat buddies.
Nice catch on that my friend. I have no idea what I was thinking with the "red" comment. OH GOD! I hope I'm not being brainwashed by all the Sooner fans!!! Lol
Damn if I don't need to get back to CWS and see our boys play ASAP! haha.
As far as your tailgate goes, its one of the things I look most forward to about the college football season. Good food and drinks, good friends, good times, good FANS, and hopefully some GREAT football. Saturdays just don't get much better than that!
Maybe you can meet us in Fayetteville. That's a shorter trip for you now than it will be for us.
I wouldn't let my boys play anywhere else! If they are truly special they will be good no matter where they go. My boys wouldn't have it any other way either by the way. I can trust joker and his staff to continue to mold them in to respectable men.
HELLZ YEAH! Sounds like a plan to me. Fayettevile isn't that far at all for me, just a few hours. We will get together later on and work out the details.
Damn do I miss Lexington but I have to admit that its pretty cool here, and I am looking forward to going to the Bedlam game and Red River Rivalry.
Bigcat, I'm confident that you will have completed MOST of that molding before Joker & his staff get their integrity-filled mitts on them.
Short version: The response I expect is for the administration to do everything in its power to make UK football a legitimate contender in the SEC.
It all sounds damn good to me!
Long version: The response I expect is for the administration to do everything in its power to make UK football a legitimate contender in the SEC.
I've conceded in other threads that I think Barnhart is the best AD at UK in my memory (back to Hagan); but IMO he hasn't come close to doing everything he could have done to make UK football a legitimate contender in the SEC. The Board of Trustees sure as hell hasn't. And I'm not even talking about facilities. If you don't have a revenue stream to fix the stadium, you don't have a revenue stream. Not much you can do about the legislature, bonding, etc. You also can't take a gun and force wealthy boosters to donate against their wills. But there is certainly enough football money coming in that could be funneled back into the program to give our coaches and players a fighting chance to get better.
Rich Brooks made the famous quote, something to the effect that UK football needed to enter the 21st century. Evidently he felt UK wasn't doing enough to support football. And I agree.
--I've mentioned in other threads that recruiting is one of the ways to turn the program into a big winner. Mitch's philosophy in every single sport has been to hire good/great recruiters and turn them loose. I'm sure most posters here would agree that Joker and the current staff are the best collective recruiters we've had here, maybe ever. And yet the recruiting budget is among the smallest in the league. UK allocates less money to recruit 25 football signees per year than it does to recruit 5-7 basketball signees per year.
I've seen stories that say UK's football recruiting budget is one third of Alabama's recruiting budget, and that Alabama's budget has doubled or tripled the last few years. If anything, our budget should be more than Alabama's budget. They have every single advantage you could want in recruiting -- best coach in the nation, facilities, tradition, trophy cases that are full, all the great high school players they could ever want in their own backyard -- and yet spend a million per year in recruiting. OTOH, Kentucky has next to no great players available in state. If we are to ever sign classes full of 4- and 5-star players like the big boys, we are going to have to spend money to have our coaches literally living out of their suitcases as they recruit in Georgia, Florida, Texas, etc.
--Coaching staff. I like Joker a lot. He was a player at UK when I first met him and every time our paths crossed back then and in the next few years he always went out of his way to help me. He's been a good to maybe even great coordinator here at times. Having said that, I'd say Vandy is the only other SEC school that would have hired a guy with his resume as head coach. You simply can't throw a guy with no head coaching experience into the fire in the nation's top football league. It's even worse to do so at a school like UK, which already has the deck stacked against it. It could still work out. But IMO, Joker should have left to gain experience at a smaller school before taking over here, or we should have hired a proven coach.
--Recruiting room and similar, small facilities upgrades. This one gets talked about way too much. But the fact still remains that Arkansas, for example has built, not one, but two state-of-the-art recruiting rooms in the time since Brooks first started asking for one.
To sum it all up, UK basketball goes first class in every single thing it does. Everything. How much time and effort and money is spent to make Big Blue Madness the biggest event of its kind? Contrast that to the spring football game. All they do to try to draw a crowd for that is put up a tent selling surplus athletic equipment and send out a few tweets with lame hashtags like #rise #operationwin, etc.
I can't say I disagree with a single bit of that post. Spot on. That said, I wouldn't let any of those frustrations cause me to give up tickets or to stop supporting the team.
I read your long version as well, and don't disagree with much, if any, of what you said.
The point is, the neglect has been so profound for so long that even sparse recent measures look good in comparison. Trust me, I would love to have a football first mentality at UK, but I don't know why withholding fan support would encourage that in the slightest.
As for your coaching staff comparison, Florida, Vanderbilt, and Mississippi State have recently hired coordinators to their first head coaching jobs. Those are three I can name from the SEC in the last three years, without mentioning Phillips. In 2008, when Phillips was named HCIW, he was coming off a school record-setting season and had one of the top offenses in the SEC.
I wanted a big name to come and coach here when Phillips was named HCIW. I would have preferred someone with more experience as a HC, or someone with more than three years as OC in a BCS league. However, coaching decisions are not mine to make, and I'm not going to withhold my support because I didn't agree with the decision.
This post was edited by hoptownukfan 22 months ago
That's very true, but young men are still impressionable. I would trust Joker and Co Far more than Petrino for example. I'm assuming by your username you understand what service to our country can do for a young mans character as well. Joker is genuinely concerned about these young men. There are several other coaches I would probably trust as well, but at my house we wear blue ;)
Assumption = Confirmed
Congratulations on sporting the Blue attire!!!
This post was edited by USMCatFan 22 months ago
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