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As a Louisville fan, I would hate seeing Petrino at UK. However, has there ever been a better opportunity for Kentucky to grab a top of the line head coach than right now? Petrino may be a bad human, but he is, above all else, a football genius and a winner. Kentucky has recruited players for a long time who are just a bit lower on the SEC talent scale than what teams like LSU and Alabama are looking for, but they are talented, and Petrino maximizes talent. I have no doubt that he could take Kentucky to a whole new level. He and the Cats could start over together, and he would probably be a bargain for a while, at least. Do you think UK fans would support hiring him? (I know I'm talking as if Joker is already gone. Maybe UK has a fantastic season, and this question is meaningless, but meaningless questions are half the point of message boards and sports radio.)
Zero chance of Petrino being hired at UK, and speaking for myself I wouldn't support him if he was hired as a waterboy.
"Kentucky Football needs to be and will be a championship contender in the SEC."~Mitch Barnhart 11/4/12
Just my opinion, but hiring BP would put the athletic department and university in a position to have a significant amount of legal liability given BP's recent hiring practices.
He's a good coach, and a great offensive mind, but if I were legal counsel for a university, BP would not get a ringing endorsement for a potential coaching vacancy.
UK made one mistake in Billy Clyde. That won't happen again. Petrino has Different demons but Mitch Barnhardt isn't gonna take a chance. Especially since the talent is improving. Unless we only win 2 or 3 games Joker will be back and then we will see all the talent begin to take hold and show true progression.
It smells like microwaved homeless people in here.
I will second JDHLaw's post.
While true that lots of people have personal problems, I am amazed at how few people seem to realize the potential legal ramifications of his allowing his personal life to cross into his work. This was compounded by his coverup.
Why keep bringing this up? He has no chance at getting hired here and I for one do not want him and I know many others that dont either..Can we please drop this lunacy and have threads that are viable?
keep in mind that this was started by a Louisville fan
Unless there's anything less than a zero percent chance.
This post was edited by Chris Fisher 21 months ago
Bobby Petrino...where to start? Pros & cons I suppose.
*Best (IMO) play caller in college football.
*Good evaluator of talent (IMO).
*Has won big at 2 stops.
In summary....a winning football coach up to this point (key words are UP TO THIS POINT) in his career.
*Has proved repeatedly that he is a pathological liar.
*Has royally screwed over everyone who has employed him as a head coach.
*Ran a renegade program at UaVel that had a sizable chunk of guys who were less than stellar members of the student body. By the time Steve Kragthorpe got through taking out the trash, he was left with a fraction of the talent and it cost him his job.
*So arrogantly stupid that he thought it would be a good idea to start boinking a grad student half his age who was engaged to a fellow employee in the Arkansas athletic department.
*So arrogantly stupid that he thought it would be a good idea to slide her into a cushy, nice paying job in the athletic department over dozens of vastly more qualified applicants and exposing his employer to possible lawsuits if the truth ever came out.
*So arrogantly stupid that he thought it would be a good idea to take his mistress on a late Sunday afternoon Harley ride without his helmet even though he is easily one of the most recognizable people in the entire state.
*So arrogantly stupid that he used his university issued cell phone to make several thousand calls and texts to his mistress.
*Also used the same phone to send several hundred calls and texts to another hottie in Little Rock, including rumored nude photos of himself.
*Tried to involve a friend with the Arkansas Hwy. Patrol in covering up his accident.
*Lied to his boss, his players, his family, the media and the Arkansas fans about the accident.
*Lied about knowing his mistress when he hand picked her for the job.
In summary....Petrino is a pathological liar who has so far screwed over everyone who has employed him as a head coach, and he is arrogantly stupid to boot.
If you are an AD looking to hire him, you have to ask yourself these questions:
*Will he touch us over? The answer is quite likely, if you base it on his history.
*Will he be able to recruit as if nothing had ever happened? I'm thinking it is pretty damn unlikely, especially in the Southeast and when you are going after kids that other major Southern schools are going after. Football recruiting is cut throat enough without opposing coaches being able to load up with a ton of ammo that this stooge has brought on himself. And don't bring up the horseshat about John Calipari's previous reputation. At least CJC can honestly show that he hasn't been named in any wrongdoing in any NCAA investigation. What is Petrino's statement going to be when asked about this by the parents of recruits, more than a few of which are probably single moms who have already been shat on at least once in their life by men? If I'm recruiting against Petrino for a player, I will drag his ignorant ass through the mud to the parents, and the beauty of it is that none of it will be a lie.
*Will his scandal leave us vulnerable to a future lawsuit(s) where perhaps even a somewhat disgruntled female employee can create a "he said-she said" situation where you could wind up in court or be forced to settle out of court because you don't want any more bad press than has already been created.
In summary....any AD is going to think long and hard about hiring Petrino. There are always good candidates out there with either none, or a fraction of the baggage that Petrino is towing behind him in that 40 ft. box trailer. Think Mike Leach has baggage? Leach has a small carry on bag compared to the warehouse that Petrino has managed to create for himself.
Personally, I don't care in the least that Petrino stepped out on his wife. It's none of my business....but that's not what cost him his job. If he had been boinking someone in his own social circle or even the cutie down at Dunkin' Doughnuts, he would still be employed by Arkansas. Even though I obviously don't like him, if you had asked me before all the shit hit the fan if I would accept him as head coach at UK, I would have reluctantly said yes. Now, I wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole, and I would be surprised if any other major university did either, at least for 2-3+ years. He may be a good candidate to replace Mike Price at UTEP after this season though.
Yes, we will hire Bobby P right after ul hires Billy G.
I doubt any University would hire him at this point... I wouldn't hire him to coach a peewee team. However, understanding how the game is played... I suspect some desperate program will take advantage of his cheapened value and hire him to be the savior of their football team. I think he will get some consideration next year, but I still think that's too soon... 2014 may be his next second chance. I just think a good couple of years of counseling and soul searching will do wonders for his resume and self image... maybe even his contract worthiness. Any AD who would hire him now, would only cheapen their own image and would lose respect for himself AND the university.
IF UK needs to hire a new footbal HC, they can and will do better than Petrino. F him and the banged up motorcycle he'd ride in on.
This post was edited by bluedynasty 21 months ago
In conclusion, no.
He would be a perfect fit for Kentucky.
I guess ul fans still don't understand about having class on your sports staff. He is a good coach but is lowlife as they come, maybe ul will hire him back after strong leaves for ARK. What a great opportunity for the ul program, a perfect fit again. Classless.
This post was edited by UKlaw82 21 months ago
Barnhart will not consider hiring B. Petrino. Some UK fans (who may be indifferent toward ethical lapses) would support the move. I believe the majority would not support the hiring. I know I would return my tickets if UK made such a hire.
Not a chance in Hades! His personality and shenanigans would not be in line with that of Mitch Barnhardt and most actual UK football fans wouldn't like having him. He is a dynamic play caller and offensive coordinator but has no business as UK's HC.
This presents quite the quandry though doesn't it? Guaranteed that we'd be very successful if Petrino were to ever be hired by UK....which is what everyone, I mean EVERYONE clamors for (success in FB).
There will be a school to overlook the ARK situation and hire him....no question. Football rule$$$ the day, and wherever he goes he wins.
So you think there's a small chance?
If the occasion presented itself, I would hire him. And no, I am neither a Christian nor "...indifferent toward ethical lapses ...". Most, if not all of us, regularly elect as US President candidates who direct or approve deceitful campaigns (both Dems and Reps) ... but we would not countenance the hiring of a football coach! Obviously, football is much more important and the candidates are just ... playing politics.
This is Exactly my point. Someone is going to hire him, and he is going to win. Why pretend like "my school is too good to hire that guy," knowing that someone else is going to do it, and his record for football success is so good. It all comes down to structuring a contract that gives the school plenty of power to oversee and fire the guy for a hint of trouble.
For me, and numerous others, it has nothing to do with a school "being too good."
It has to do with a potentially massive amount of legal liability attached to hiring him. Ethical and moral lapses aren't the issue, or at least aren't the issue that will garner focus when it comes to hiring decisions.
Structuring a contract that gives maximum oversight and termination powers does nothing for the legal liabilities of the university.
For example, boinking staffers and underlings is a moral lapse, right up until the sexual harassment suit comes. Then it's a legal issue. Or issues with improper hiring violations of several stripes. And the university that hires BP gets to enjoy the negligent hiring/negligent supervision suit that will inevitably come on the heels of the sexual harassment/improper hiring suits.
Once more, the concerns with hiring BP don't revolve around his moral or ethical issues. The concerns stem from the potential legal liability for the university.
This legal worry excuse is stupid. What he did at Arkansas is Arkansas trouble. UK wouldn't be accountable at all. Do you really think he's dumb enough to make that mistake again. The school that hires him will oversee all his hirings and approve them. He does lie but its not like he could come out and say yea I'm looking for another job. Don't worry if I don't get one I'll still be back next year. As far as the wife cheating I don't condone but its none of my business. While I think he's a pos I would welcome a winner on the football field.
Bingo. He will be watched like a hawk wherever he goes and I'd imagine he'll 100% agree to such terms. Ultimately, if UK ever gave him the opportunity I HIGHLY doubt Sandy Bell, Mitch et al, would allow Petrino to have a long leash.......further, at least this guy has never committed any NCAA violations and appears to be above the board when it comes to NCAA compliance - which is at the least, a positive factor to consider.
Don't feed the troll.
lol - i hear you. But I kind of lean in the category that Petrino would be worth the "risk". It's not like we'd be selling our collective big blue souls to hire the guy. He's not someone who runs into NCAA issues.
I actually think he's probably been very humbled by the Ark situation and will eventually be willing to agree to strict terms with some university when he's offered another opportunity....could be wrong about the humility part, but he was obviously shown by Ark admin, that he is not above them - some lessons come later in life.
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