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4* DE De'Asian Richardson just committed to Louisville. Had been committed to WVU.
Could this rule UL out?
Ole 4 star Charlie has landed 2 4 star Dlinemen in the last week.
Could you please just admit you are a closet Louisville fan.
I was trying to be nice about it.
First off, given the Minter's tenure was so forgettable and he is no longer with the program, perhaps a new screen name is in order. When I see the name Minter, I have visions of seeing UK's defense lose contain and watching a running back glide around UK's defense for big yardage.
Secondly, can you please give this sort of passive-aggressive post a rest for a while? This Richardson kid looks like another great prospect for the Cards. On the heels of a terribly impressive domination of the Gators, which leaves UofL's program ascending. No doubt about that. But for the first time in 3 years or so, UK fans have reason to be excited.
I've often agreed with your posts re UK fans needing to raise their expectations regarding football recruiting. Anyone who understands football knows you've got to have the players, particularly in the SEC, and UK has not signed nearly enough of those sorts of kids. That HAS to change.
The good news is that UK appears to have hired of staff capable of bringing in more of those sorts of kids. No, UK wasn't able to land Nick Saban, Pete Carroll, or Jim Harbaugh. And there have not been a flurry of 4 and 5 star commitments since Stoops' arrival. But expecting that might be just a tad unreasonable at this point, don't you think?.
From early indications, this coaching staff is not afraid to target and go hard after top level targets with offers from the big boys. They will not win all of these recruiting battles obviously. But they will win more than Joker's staff did, it appears. The defensive staff has brand name recognition in Stoops and a young up-and-comer in Eliot. The offensive staff is young and is installing a system which sells itself to skill position prospects.
Again, none of this means that UK is instantly going to vault into the top 25 in recruiting or win 7 or 8 games next year, but recruiting is clearly improving, and UK should be improving on the field over the next few years. It's going to take time, but finally, there is reason for some optimism that brighter days are ahead.
There is reason for optimism, but it sure does suck that it comes at a time where UL, the OOC opponent we generally need to beat to get to a bowl is peaking. It's a shame that UK's admin had to wait until the school down the road got succesful before they decided to get serious about football. Building a succesful fb program takes both timing and committment. We missed the boat on the timing, and that's why we are several steps behind UL right now. God bless Stoops and give him the ability to build it fast! Lord knows we need it!
I must have missed your post about Ole 4 star Stoops when Za'Darius Smith committed. I'll be looking forward to your post about Ole 4 star Stoops when the next 4 star commits to UK.
It only sucks if you agonize so much about the success of UL that you miss the optimism about the program you are supposed to be a fan of.
UL's success shouldn't be anything other than an indicator that a traditionally moribund program experiencing a 3 year run of terrible football can hire a good coach, recruit a few good classes, and be competitive. While I enjoy schadenfreude as much as anyone, it's really only a one way street for me. I enjoy UL failure, but I don't agonize over UL success.
Excellent! I agree.
OP why on earth would Hatcher be the least bit worried about UL signing another 4 star DE. Have you seen USCs commitment list? As for Minter, the UL love is old. Strong has proven a great recruiter and coach. We get it but no he hasn't and won't sign only 4 star players and while he has the upper hand now we all know the fortunes can quickly change.
Louisville is an example why an elite qb is important. Put stein out there and they win 6 games this year. The talent gap between uk and ul is very small at 95% of the positions.
Agree totally with you I think a good team must have a good qb to lead them to victorys
I'm in total agreement with both of these guys, JDHLaw11 & IamRV.
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You seriously believe the talent gap is at 95% of the positions? Time to remove your blue shaded glasses.
I believe the same. Take Bridgewater off that team and they are very average. He elevates everybody's game on that team. They do have better WR's. A couple better LB's and DB's. Thats about it.
I watched both teams qb wr only places there is a talent gap. You get caught up in the record give us bridgewater and uofl schedule we win 9 games this year. The recruiting classes agree with me as well
If De'Asian Richardson is ineligible and unlikely to qualify academically, as I've seen reported, do we get to change the nickname to Ole Ineligible Charlie?
1. Bridgewater for sure is a heckuva player.
2. WR...Parker, Copeland, etc..all way better than anything UK has run out there. They are a sure handed group and Parker is very explosive. Our best WR were King and Boyd who are both big kids with solid hands...but no explosive speed on any level.
3. UL RB committee....are all bigger kids that run thru more tackles than Sanders/George/Coshik. I'll argue Clemons could match Perry's size/speed combo.
Defensively is where the argument is blurred as UL on the year wasn't that good many games.
4. Is there anyway DE talent can be worse at UL than UK? Ukwu/Wyndham were as bad a pair of DE that literally started for 3 straight years...Wyndham played 4 years and started for 3 of them and got a total of 6.5 sacks in 4 years.
Ukwu did the same and had only 8 sacks in 4 years
Mauldin and Marcus SMith for UL had 4 sacks a piece last year and both come back next year.
I'd argue UL has eons more talent at DE than UK. UK will lean on a JUCO recruit of Stoops...and we have to thank the heavens we didn't stick with Joker's plan at DE...which apparently was as non-existent as Joker's annual slogans.
5. Safety? Anybody wow over running out a 5'9 walkon at safety last year that wasn't that explosive/fast in Mike Benton the last 2 years? What about Lowrey's (he has to be a 4.7 forty) lack of foot speed at DB? Once Neloms moved off safety..we had zilch back there to defend with
Not that I was ever blown away by Calvin Pryor...but as a Sophmore he is way more talented than anything we've run out there. Faulkner is UK's only hope at safety right now. I predict one starting safety will be a recruiting pickup by Stoops.
All in all, better coaching will make many of our positions look better with more knowledge/execution....but outside of DT/LB...our recruiting of proper athletes on defense has been abysmal. Strong was recruited much better his first 2 years than Joker and it shows by leaps and bounds.
To tell ya the truth I was thinking more towards next year than this year. Clearly UofL won the Sugar Bowl and UK went 2-10. Who cares to even argue which players are better at this point since the year is over anyway.
I like our backs next year alot. Just as much as UofL's. Clemons should be back healthy and don't short change Sanders and George they can both play and as I remember gashed UofL in the first game of the season.
I also like our Dline just as much if not more than UofL's like I said for next year adding Big Z and possibly moving Dupree down to End.
Still think we lack a little at LB and DB which I hope can be remedied filling out the rest of the class and with guys becoming a year older.
But we still have no Bridgewater. However I do feel like we'll have the more explosive scheme. Just gotta add some WR's that can get it done like Samples, Blue, and hope like hell Sweat is eligible, and guys like Legree and Cunningham can step up.
The only statement I was really trying to make is that Bridgewater makes a mediocre Louisville team pretty damn good. Without him they could very well have a QB that makes a mediocre team pretty damn bad. They feed off that kid.
With Clint Hurt and a local media that will not report any kind of wrong doing by an athletic department that intimidates any media outlet, anything is possible. After all, ole Clint brought Teddy from Miami with him and they both avoided any kind of NCAA skirmish. Amazing what can happen when you can do anything to bring in talent.
May as well nurse that rancor with today's expected recruiting haul by an aggressive UofL coaching staff, bent on taking advantage of their new status.
Hurtt has already alluded to an impressive class, many expected to sign today, if what he says is any indication.
"There is an eloquence in true enthusiasm."
Edgar Allen Poe
Cant sign today,only give a a verbal..Signing day not until Feb
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