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Not me, I guess the slimy way is not the way I would go but there would be some folks........
Ha! Judge not brother...you know how it goes.
I have suffered through the ups and downs of UK football and supported with my heart and my wallet for decades - I would never buy another ticket if they hired that piece of @#$%.
I would be disgusted.
You know, it's not on the same radar but I had the privilege of reading these boards when Cal was at Memphis back in the day...same things were said. "No way in hell I want him here, he's a disgusting POS, cheating, unethical bastard, etc..."
I don't agree with Petrino's ethics but I would bet my ass that if ever came here and started winning, 90% of you would change your mind. Fact? No. Just an educated guess.
And I did say "If he repented..."
I've never thought there was anything that could make me stop rooting for the Cats, but that would do it -- at least for football.
This is 100% not the same thing as Cal.
Petrino carried on an affair, lied, manipulated, was deceitful, etc. Then broke the universities hiring policies to hire his mistress while giving her a cash payment.
In NO way is this like anything Cal has EVER been accused of doing.
Count me among the others who would withdraw all support for the football program if they ever hired the guy.
Listen man, I agree.
All I'm saying is that a large percentage of the BBN would have a very short memory if someone like Petrino came in and produced a winner. Winning games is all that matters to most people and those who say otherwise are in the minority.
I could care less if he's having an affair.
He will be coaching somewhere, why not us? Dude transformed Arky. to be a power.
Id love to have Petrino as our coach. Towles would benefit greatly under his tutelage.
If joker gets 4 wins or less he should get the hook. I pray for 7 wins, but think logically that we are weak at most every position in relation to our conference foes.
Mitch Barnhart hired cheater Dennis Erikson to coach his football team at Oregon State. He hired John Calipari and his one (and subsequently two) vacated Final Fours. But yeah, impossible to imagine him hiring Petrino.
Want to know a sad fact, though? Come this December Petrino likely can command much better job offers than the UK one. Dude is the king scumbag, but damn does he win football games, and puts an entertaining product on the field in the process. Never been accused of NCAA cheating at UL or Ark, either. He knows this state, and he knows the SEC.
Petrino's offense + 4 years of Patrick Towles running it starting in 2013....sigh, what could be but won't
He was told to hire Cal by Mike Pratt. He wouldn't have otherwise.
I missed your point first time around, I think you are right....
Looking at some other posts, I think anyone who could care less about the ethics of a man as long as he wins football games needs to evaluate themselves and what they consider important.
Your equivocation of what Petrino did and whatever NCAA violations have haunted Erickson and Calipari rings so, so hollow.
You have a man who hired his mistress, in clear violation of University policy and maybe even state law, and paid her off to nominally ensure her silence and cooperation in hiding the affair. He lied to his AD and engaged in an active coverup of his actions to avoid losing his job.
To ignore all that and champion him because you have a vehement dislike of the current coaching staff and athletic administration comes off as disingenuous at best and ignorance at worst. The man is universally loathed by the majority of folks who have come into contact with him not because he wins, not because he's "wired" differently like a Saban, but because he's a deplorable human who seemingly cares nothing for those around him.
I'd rather lose every game from here on out than having someone representing UK. And if Calipari or Joker Phillips ever got caught in a similar situation? I'd call for his head too.
Pratt was instrumental without question in the hiring of Cal, but I find it hard to believe MB hired Cal simply because Pratt gave the code red.
please, ethics schmethics. Lou Holtz got job after job despite always committing NCAA violations. Rich Rodriguez got a great job at Arizona despite widespread violations at both Michigan and West Virginia. And you can count on someone (likely of a higher status than UK) will hire Bobby Petrino. Why? Because they are winners.
The only way UK would get a guy like Petrino is if he fully repented to the point that he completely changed his attitude/lifestyle, and that would likely cause him to lose his fb mojo.
It doesn't matter. But it was Pratts idea to hire Cal. Otherwise he would not have been considered. Once Mitch had a meeting with Cal he could see that he was the right fit.
Back to the topic. I sure as hell hope that the majority of diehard UK fans would want no freakin part of a guy like Bobby Petrino. If he did have success here he would leave us high and dry. He's a miserable human being who's only out for himself. Hopefully at this point he's destroyed himself in coaching.
What's going on in this country where you can't bang pretty 20something blonde girls? It's ridiculous. It's a personal matter. Yeah he didn't tell his employers. So what? Yeah he gave her a job. So what? 80% of the jobs landed in this country is because someone knows someone. As long as she did her job well why would it matter?
Obviously thats not what this is about. According to the AD he was deceptive and manipulative in his hiring on this girl.
As hard as it is to win in the SEC, coupled with the importance of winning, I felt Petrino would weather this storm. But, paying your mistress $20K and hiring her for a job she was not qualified for when you get 149 applicants for said job sealed his fate. The decision became an easy one for Long, so I am not sure he deserves all the kudos he's getting. That said, he's got quite a task in front of him hiring a replacement. The Razorbacks have a loaded roster that puts them in the top-5 and primed for a SEC title. Malzahn, IMO, might be his best bet, but he's got no HC experience and he was just hired by Arky State. Lots of big name coaches without a home getting some mention as well. Very, very interesting story to follow over the next month, or two.
"Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm." ~ Emerson
I would hire that guy tomorrow, of I were the AD of UK. I have BCS and conference title dreams and our program is stuck in Operation Quicksand.
FACTS ABOUT PETRINO
He is an offensive genius.
He built Louisville and Arkansas into powers
He did nothing out of the ethical realm that a former US President or allegedly UKs current FB coach has done
This would irk UofL forever
Towles would thrive under Petrino
He is an a-hole, but a winning a-hole
I can live with the above facts and build the UK football brand into the 8th most profitable NCAA (according to Forbes) program as he did Arky.
Petrino will do a mea culpa and get hired by Clemson, Florida or the U in a year or so with no ill-effects as a bit of the stink wears off....why not us, why not now?
Go for it Mitch, take the knee and beg.
I am with Moc and some others..I do not want that ahole anywhere near Lexington..I know Mitch would never consider hiring someone like that and that is the way it should be..Petrino is scum and why any of you would want him as our coach is beyond me..There is way more to it than winning football games..
WTF has the current UK FB coach allegedly done? Why in the hell would you even list him at all in your post?
I completely get some that would like to see Petrino coach the Cats (I do not like that D bag at all but he would win here) but leave Joker the hell out of it.
How would we know?
Let's win a few conference or division titles and let's gauge the bigger questions of ethics then.
Is there really? There's really more to it hand winning football games? Id love to hear exactly what more there is because Joker hasn't been getting killed on mess boards for being anything like Petrino or any other douche. Joker is a great guy, LOVES UK, represents the school with dignity. Respects the game....etc. But for some reason people have been wanting his job for a while now. So please enlighten me on what else here is, because I'm telling you now that in college football (especially the SEC) its about one thing and one thing only....WINNING...
Now I'm not sayin its right. Morally I wish I could agree with you but unfortunately is not. There's simply not more to it. You win...your in. You lose...your out, and the leashes are getting shorter and shorter. Coaches rarely receive enough time to even build a winner. Its a win and win now mentality now.
First off ... I said allegedly.
Im not patronizing you but - if you hadn't heard the rampant rumors that Joker was having a fling with a local newscaster.
Regardless of rumor, (true or not) I dont care about Joker's personal private life decisions. I'm merely stating that people shouldn't hate on people because their marriages fail.
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