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I'm more upset with the process he took. especially after joker went to bat to get him a raise and title recognition. he's not proven anything as a coach, but no doubt he can recruit. I would expect after a raise and title bump to get two years.
also, show some loyalty to joker. those jobs will be there for him regardless of jokers job status after this season.
Well I don't think that will be a issue. Barnhart and Joker did all they could to keep Tee in Lexington.
To be 100% honest. And I know this will piss some of you off but this seems like a Coach jumping ship while his stock is at a all time high, and worried about the HC's future. I can't really blame him. Not that I like it or agree but I what can we do?
I think Joker will get two more seasons regardless unless we just have a 1 or 2 win season. The issue will be finding a replacement that will come here with Joker ""on the hot seat"".
What it tells me unfortunately, is that Tee is not hopeful for Joker's future at UK. He knows that if he wants to continue to climb the ladder, he needs to move on from UK. He also may have personal reasons to want to live in that part of the country, but my guess is, the guy wants to prove himself in a big time program so he can be a HC himself one day.
It's a big hit, but if it was going to come, now is a better time than immediately after the season or during the 11th hour of recruiting.
They have time now to find a good replacement. Tee had very little experience before coming to UK. Someone is out there now similar to him that wants the opportunity to be in the SEC.
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Personally, I think Joker needs to take the best guy from both Illinois and Ole Miss.
Tough break for the guys he recruited this year that though he would be around next year though. . .
I fully agree that recruiter is out there and wants a shot to coach here in the SEC, I just hope they get him and not a high school coach that is going to bring one top target with him from his school which is also someone who will come much cheaper, main selling point for uk administartion unfortunatly. Again, there is no doubt in my mind that Joker wants to hire the best of the best but the administration has his hands tied with barbwire, and chains.....and rope.....and leather.... lol you get it!
this is really hurtful news. It hurts us on the recruiting trail, but like has been said by others. Our WR corps last year didn't really set the world on fire. I think we could hire someone with more experience coaching WR's and be better off. We have some talent at WR, but recruiting is where this hurts us. But we have to move quickly to get someone who can recruit with the same veracity that Tee was able to.
Wonder what the kids coming to our junior days are thinking? Especially the ones Tee has been recruiting. I bet some don't even come now. The light at the end of the tunnel for wildcat football keeps getting more and more dim.
QFT! They both seem to be going after everyone we are.
Wesley McGriff come back to UK! I think he's the one at Ole Miss anyway...
People need to give Joker time IMO. UK fans are lying to themselves if they think we can rise to the top with someone who won't be loyal to us. Joker is our chance. No Urban will ever come to UK. It's imperative Joker succeeds. It's stupid to dwell on the past so give him time.
I agree that we need to give Joker time but I'd like to point out that Meyer actually wanted the UK job back when we hired Mumme. IIRC he was an assistant coach at ND at the time.
This does hurt alot less being this late. If UK can shock some teams and win say 7 this yr. And then land a well known coach to replace Tee. Then all will be great.
To me Tee ia making a huge gamble. Say Kifen does get USC into trouble, Tee will be linked to that crap for yrs. If Joker was fired after this yr, Tee would be the man who gaines the most. in my op
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Obviously some of you are ready to jump off a cliff over this. Yes it does hurt a little but not a major catastrophe that some of you are making it out to be. And those of you saying that this means that Tee has no faith in Joker, you are way off. You obviously never listened to Tee's comments on Joker. Tee did this for his wife and family, plan and simple. Joker will get someone to fill the recruiting role and someone who can coach receivers. I think everyone can agree that a receiver coach was not Tee's strong suit. To say we will no longer get players is just laughable. Seems to me we have had some very nice players come through UK in the last few years prior to Tee Martin. I wish Tee and his family nothing but the best and I look forward to seeing who Joker brings in to fill the job.
Look I will agree with you to a point. But for Tee to do this and if he kept Joker out of the loop to be told by the media would be a huge, huge mistake for Tee. I would loose all respect for him and at the end of the day respect is all we have., How could a HS player trust a man who lied to former players he recruited and to the coach he worked for. Sorry maybe I am wrong???? But RESPECT is what we have to prooooooveeeee who we are.
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BS, no one called him a liar or said he didn't talk to Joker.
BS, no one called him a liar or said he didn't talk to Joker.
Did you not read what I said???? If he did not talk to Joker first to me he is dirt.
From what I am hearing from friends and family in Lexington, he has not talked to Joker as of yet.
oh waaa waaa waaa. Some of you need to put on your big boy underwear and get out of the diapers. Tee Martin is leaving a bottom tiered SEC program for one of the superpowers of the sport. Coaches leave for other jobs all the time, coaches are fired all the time, nature of the business. There is nothing wrong whatsoever with Tee Martin accepting this job and confirming that he had to media folks and not telling Joker until he sees him face to face in the morning. And if you don't recognize what a tremendous career opportunity this is for him and an incredible improvement in security as well as status then you are not dealing with reality.
Some of you amaze me with your ideas of how you think this all went down and how things are going behind the scenes at UK. The recruiting class was falling apart, Joker is fired, etc... etc... When will you all learn to stop trying to figure out what you think you know and what you think is going on and just wait on the full story?
You all are going to love these quotes. I doubt it's OK to link the story, but here is what Martin told USC Scout writer Greg Biggins:
"This was a real tough decision for me, I loved it at Kentucky,” Martin said Wednesday night. “I interviewed with Lane [Kiffin] on Monday and spent the whole day on campus. I took a red eye flight home that night and then turned my phone off all day Tuesday.
"Late Tuesday, I had decided I would stay at Kentucky. I was really torn but we have so much family in the area, my wife loves it here and I loved coaching these kids and working under Coach [Joker] Phillips. I called up Lane to talk to him some more and now I understand why he’s regarded as the best recruiter in the country. He made me feel like I was a five-star recruit and was relentless. He really made me feel comfortable with the situation and I decided I had to make the move."
That's some good stuff. Thanks for sharing. Feel free to link the story.
I love Tee, but he left for a very prestigious job. It happens all the time in the workplace. Joker hired him, and now needs to go make another hire just like that one.
USC recruited 2 3 star players.
The rest were 4 and 5 star players.
End of story.
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