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This has not gotten much attention but UK's class is currently 41 and UL 53 which I think is pretty remarkable. (only looking at 247)
Not sure where the two classes end up but I like our chances.
At 41 we are currently ahead of:
Oregon State at 43
Kansas State at 47
Boise State at 51
Stanford at 55
Georgia Tech at 57
NC State at 59
Arkansas at 65 (Only SEC team below us)
Danville (23) / Atlanta (16) / Westport, CT (1) / @tbradg
Louisville fan here.
UL will sign a small class this year (due to a small number of seniors leaving) and will suffer accordingly in recruiting rankings. However, UL will likely sign higher quality recruits than UK, we'll just have fewer of them this year (UL avg recruit ranking: 85.77, UK: 82.70, although this could certainly change in UK's favor). With that said, Stoops and Co. are hitting the trail hard and are positioning themselves to sign a good class; certainly, these are exciting times for a UK football fan.
This post was edited by 23LouCards 18 months ago
At the end of the day, it's silly to rank a recruiting class based on the number of kids in the class (rivals.com has that in formula). Both schools are knocking it out of the park thus far. Both teams have put themselves in a position to close very strong down the stretch with some game changing 4 star players. We'll see how it ends up.
Rivals ranks based on top
20 recruits. In terms of our class, if we sign mcwilson, Badet Timmons etc our class will be markedly better than uofl's and will be as good on paper as the bridgewater class.
Thanks for posting and keeping it civil. That is not always the case between UK & UL fans.
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I, I took the one less traveled by, and it has made all the difference (Frost).
I don't know. Four years down the road the team that signed 25 players is likely to be in better shape than the one that signed say 18..
These items should factor in in the evaluation process:
-the ratings of the top 15 players of the class as they will most likely be the best players on the team
-the quantity of the players should be included as it increases the chances of "hits" as players and adds to the depth of the team
-the total class star rating average
-the ratings from across all recruiting services
-the amount of offers and where they are from
It sounds good, although it would be very tough to input all this information into an equation.....it would make for the most accurate rankings though.
That being said, should UK and UL finish ranked just as they are now, there is virtually no difference in their classes other than bragging rights.....since recruiting is an inexact science. It boils down to which players actually do develop and which coaching staff does the better job with the players.
One of the more overlooked things in recruiting is how well a team does over time.
One of my alma maters is Middle Tennessee. Let's say they sign 4 classes in a row that were ranked 74, 31, 61, 64. Someone may look at Middle's 31st ranked class and say, "Wow, they are really getting it done. They should be a good team." But the team likely does not have very good depth and/or overall talent except for in some spotty areas.
Stoops must sign at least 3 great classes in a row, otherwise the house of cards will fall due to no foundation.
One of the largest reasons why the top 10 teams in the nation stay the top 10 teams in the nation (besides superior coaching) is that they continue to recruit top 10 classes yr after yr after yr after yr.
4 star Charlie???? That class is not impressive at all considering they just came off a victory in the Sugar Bowl, Cholly signed a new contract, and they are bound for the ACC. I'd consider it a big whiff especially considering Quick was basically gifted to them. The kid was never going anywhere else. If they whiff on Hatcher and he comes to UK instead then thats a big time miss considering the circumstances. UK and Stoops are picking up major steam on the recruiting trail. Ohio is gonna like a home base. Bridgewater is set to go pro after this year. UK is in good shape with both Barker(UofL once though to have a good shot) and Gillins. Bonnafon could be great but I doubt he's Bridgewater. Bolin will be solid but he's probably got a ways to go. Max Smith and Towles will be seasoned QB's in the years to come. I'd be a little bit worried especially if we find a way to beat that ass in Commonwealth come September if I was a UofL fan. Plus they're finally stepping up to what I would call high major football. The ACC won't be cake city like the Big East. Certainly don't see them getting back to a BCS with Bridgewater out of the picture and playing in the ACC. Not to mention that UofL is still not out of the woods with Cholly leaving. You bet your ass if UF opens up he'll be gone.
And I'm, betting my ass that Muschamps gone either at the end of next year, or the one after that. If Charlie doesn't screw something up, he will be on their shortlist, adn will take the job. I look for Strong to go to the SEC when Bridgewater leaves. if Fl offers, it's Bye Bye.
Thanks for the info.....I had wondered about UL scholarship limits for this year.
Don't forget that UL has 3 transfers also. A TE, CB/Safety, and WR all transferred from Florida.
Didn't UL lose a couple of scholarships due to APR this year.
We lost three scholarships in the 2011 class, but that was anticipated by the staff and they didn't offer out a full number of scholarships that year; to my knowledge, the penalty was isolated to that one class (2011).
Also, I'm always confused on how transfers affect recruiting classes, but yes, we had three guys who enrolled last year (Christian and Clark from Florida, Milton from Tennessee) and another who enrolled this semester (Bailey from Florida).
The quailty of football in Kentucky as a state got a ton better with the arrival of Stoops..Petrino at WKu..and Strong staying at UL.
NOt fair to Stoops to compare his class with anyones..guy has had only a little over a month to recruit at Uk..and IMo..hes been killing it! Wait untill next year..and the year after..when he has a full year to recruit the 2014 kids and 2 full years to snag the 2015 ones.. Stoops and Eliots ties in Fla will pay off big time the next 2 years...you know they have relationships formed with kids they were recruiting for FSU..now they will try to get them to come here to Lexington!
Is Strong booting all the guys he had commited before the Sugar Bowl? Because there was not much quality there and he was close to being full up at that point
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