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The West Virginia game??? You think U of L won that game by playing really well? U of L had 351 total yards in the game to to WV's 533. Most can admit that the game was won due to the FG blocked and run for a TD. 10 point Special Teams swing right there. You won by 3. But you only mention a muffed punt in the Pitt game. Your total offense that game was 280 yards. 299 against U Conn a week later. Yep, sounds like your offense was ROLLING at the end of the year.
Anyway...As always, you don't read or listen. Even with these stats, no one said U of L didn't get any better. We're just trying to educate you about UK's team and why this game will be closer than you think. I honestly don't care if you believe it or not.
And congrats on being Runner-up in the Belk Bowl last year.
So please explain this...
Kentucky also leads all schools in total NCAA
tournament appearances with 52, is first in
NCAA tournament wins with 111, and ranks
second to UCLA in NCAA championships with
8. In addition to these titles, Kentucky also has
won the National Invitation Tournament (NIT)
in both 1946 and 1976, making them the only
school to win multiple NCAA and NIT
championships. The Wildcats have played in a
record 52 NCAA Tournaments, in a record 157
NCAA Tournament games, have a NCAA record
39 Sweet-16 appearances, and a NCAA record
34 Elite-8 appearances. Further, Kentucky has
played in 15 Final Fours (tied with Duke for 3rd
place all time), and has 11 NCAA
Championship Game appearances (second all
time to UCLA), winning 8 NCAA
Championships (second all time to UCLA).
Can't use the SEC sucks there.
Mind if I sit next to ya?
That popcorn looks good... care to share?
Helluva show, huh?
I'm sorry... how rude of me. No one should talk during a flick.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by JawJacker 20 months ago
I'll be back next week.... We'll see who has more tallent and just how right Vegas is. If we win by a little and don't cover I can see UK having a chance in the next two games. If we cover with a team full of Sophmores and only 4 senior starters on the roster its another 4 year sweep for us. Can't wait boys....
BTW, Hoptownukfan I'm sure I know u. Graduated from HHS in 96......
This post was edited by diehardcard 20 months ago
boom goes the dynamite! UL pwnd again.
UL plays in a horrible conference in just about every sport other than BB.
UK ranked 7(70pts) UL 21(38 pts) notice UK with almost double the pts of UL in the Capital One cup. Ouch!
Womens capital one cup
UK ranked 41(15pts) UL didn't even make the list.
Until then, scurry along... mouse.
2. Definitely correct.
3. Definitely correct. Bluegrass poll proves it, collegiate plates sales proves it and your one game attendance each year here thats now canceled due to lack of interest proves it.
4. You could say the same for us. Big games draws fan interests for both programs. If pjcs had 80,000 seats they would all be sold for next Sunday and would all be sold if we had the good fortune of Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee etc coming in like you guys get to enjoy.
So here's my problem with the argument being made against our football team versus UK. So the argument is being made that UofL is losing a lot of production, which is some-what true. If you look at purely numbers, we lose guys that, combined, bring us to about half of our production at WR/TE and RB. That being said, the guys we bring back are also the other half of that production. Usually when you talk about losing significant production, you're talking about guys that were the super stars of that position for that team. Louisville lost no super-stars, and the guys that must be immediately replaced are all matched with guys that put up similar numbers last year outside of TE. So IMO, that argument doesn't hold as much water for me as it does for some of you.
The other end is saying that some how your same guys are going to be more productive this year, than last year. I think this is true all over the board for both teams, we all want our guys to perform better, and their are indications of that throughout the past year, spring, and summer practice for both teams. I just don't think you can dismiss Louisville's desire for this, and still hold onto UK's desire for this and claim you're not wearing blue tinted glasses.
Excuses for both teams: I think some of you guys have a lot of excuses for what happened last year, but you ignore UL excuses. If you're going to say your offensive line is better because their aren't any injuries, well by that very same token UL's offensive line hadn't taken a single snap together last year because of injuries as a unit headed into UK. Matter of fact, Benavides didn't look really healthy until the middle of the year. UK no longer has Newton? Well Bridgewater put up better numbers than Smith last year as well. He came into a game having thrown only a few passes, the first of which was an INT, under an offensive coordinator who preferred Stein over him. He had to learn under a new OC the rest of the year after a game later, and he still put up great numbers for a freshman. If you're going to argue that Smith is a better QB than Newton, and will be a better QB after a year in the system, we can claim that Teddy will be better with a year in the system, and having a year to be under the new system designed around him by our new OC.
You can say we don't have a true #1 RB, but does UK without the guy they just lost to injury? How well did those guys fair last year against us?
Teddy has to compete against UK's defensive line? To be honest, I wasn't impressed with what they did against our patch-work offensive line last year, and your defense certainly wasn't impressive last year. You may have a better DC or whatever it is that you all did, but you have a lot of production to replace all over your defensive unit. This is going to be the first game.
In the end, I understand my confidence, it's certainly not the over-whelming confidence I had in years such as the Orange Bowl year, but I'm not afraid of UK. I think it's possible for you guys to beat us, but I think Louisville A game right now is right above Kentucky's A game. I think we have the better QB, a solid offensive line, and the better defense. That makes me pick us.
At this point in the thread, if you think anyone actually took the time to read that... you are only flattering yourself.
Besides... when a Card fan starts a sentence with "so here's my problem", CANCEL CHRISTMAS!!!
If we stop to listen, all plans are shot to hell... and father time comes to a screeching halt.
With that said... unless you wanna continue talking to yourself, keep it short MadCard.
Btw... if I were a Card fan, I'd be "Mad" too.
You should be. I know I would be if I was a Cardinals fan. Obviously, no one is clamoring to have UL join their conference or you'd be there already.
My point from before is that Louisville brings nothing to the table for the Big 12, when you consider what most of these moves have been based on there is nothing gained from adding UL to the Big 12. Nothing. They aren't even close to the number 1 school in this state, and as someone already said, the support for Louisville in this state is much closer to WKU than it is UK. What exactly does the Big 12 gain from taking UL? Please enlighten us.
As far as the Big East goes....UK may play as many ranked teams this year as that whole damn conference LOL. Maybe not, but I bet it's pretty close. Enough said about that conference's relevance
This post was edited by Kevin Ryan 20 months ago
EDIT: don't attack the poster.
Using your logic, uk adds nothing to the sec. At least UofL has shown the commitment to football and played in a bcs bowl.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Kevin Ryan 20 months ago
Add nothing? Bowls in 5/6 years. Won 3/5 of those bowls.
Please show the results of this poll that show Owensboro anything but all blue. PLEASE!!
Okay, so I'll K.I.S.S.
My moniker came from my early gamer ID Madwolf, because I like to be a little bit crazy, because it's more interesting, and I respect the team aspect of a wolf pack. TMI? I thought so.
Louisville had guys equal the production of the people they lost, and lost no one that was irreplaceable in that sense outside of Chichester and our two kickers.
I think UK and UofL both have a good set of "excuses" for how their teams faired last year.
I think due to injuries and players leaving or ineligible Louisville has the slight edge in talent and depth over the Cats.
I like Strong over Joker because the Cards did better than expected the last two years while the Cats stayed the same or did slightly worse. You can spin that any way you like due to our conference affiliation, but at the end of the day we were expected to suck based on that conference affiliation. We proved we could do better than expected, and the conference still lived up to it's end of the bargain by being nothing special.
I don't remember seeing polls for the split between UK and UL fans in the state, but I think it'd be fairly safe to assume that Louisville has more fans in Louisville than Kentucky does. I don't know what the split is, but I think it would be a little facetious to assume otherwise. As you get outside of the city, I have no problem assuming the opposite. I just have a very hard time believing that the city is predominantly UK. I will concede though that UK is very well represented in the city.
You lost to fiu and Marshall in the same season. If uk had done that our coach would have been fired on the spot.
I'd say both programs, by any stretch of the imagination are about the same right now. Both underachieved early in the year and played better later in the season. If
I were uofl I'd be worried about my performance against a very average nc state team in the bowl game and losing some key veteran production. . If I were uk (I am) I would be worried about losing guy and trevethan and an offense that wasn't very good at all last year.
This post was edited by hoptownukfan 20 months ago
We have a program with an entire state behind it. In fact, we (BBN) are one of the most rabid fan bases in all of college sports. An indicator of this is the fact that we are ranked #3 in college merchandise sales, behind only Alabama and Texas despite being a "basketball school." We also finished 7th in the Capital One Cup this past year, so we bring plenty to our conference, but nice try. if we elevate our FB program even slightly, watch out.
What does UL bring to the table that couldn't be gotten elsewhere. Nothing. That's why the only place you see Louisville being considered a strong option to move anywhere is on UL's boards.
Can we please get over the FIU and Marshall loss? As I've said earlier, Louisville went 2-4 through it's first 6 games and 5-2 through it's last 7, facing it's toughest opponents in the 2nd half of the season.
I will not explain those losses, because I've been told you don't want to hear about it. Suffice to say, it happens with a young team, and a bad OC, whom we got rid of after the Marshall game.
I don't think NCS is going to be an average team in the ACC this year, I expect them to compete for the ACC title. They beat some good teams last year by good margins, and also had their screw ups. They have a good QB, and one of the better CBs in the nation. He's expected to be a first rounder. That being said Louisville kept the score respectable. We can argue for days if the game was one sided or not, but I can also argue that the UK and UL game was a lot worse for UK than the score indicated as well. The point is, the argument isn't going to get us anywhere, so lets just leave it where it is.
Louisville is the most profitable AD out of all the schools left in the potential conference expansion. Louisville brings highly successful sports across the board. Take the blue tinted glasses off, and realize that Louisville is pretty good in it's own right, regardless of what BBN is doing.
How does that help a conference out? Are they going to pay the conference?
It really doesn't. What this guy doesn't understand is all about ratings and "getting in" to new areas. Louisville does nothing that programs like West Virginia, Houston, TCU, or hell, even Air Force don't do better. Those programs have more following, and Houston in particular will re-strengthen the Big 12's foothold in Texas. Texas would possibly block TCU from what I am hearing, but not Houston (I don't know why). I have heard Florida State as a candidate as well. Louisville only gets mentioned typically AFTER programs like Boise, Cincy, and West Virginia. Ask a Lousiville fan though, and you get a different response than what you get from most outside of their program. You better believe Notre Dame will be getting a call, but most think that's a longgg shot.
This post was edited by MossCat15 20 months ago
Regardless, those Louisville fans that are saying they are not worried are lying. There is no way they are not worried, it is everything to their future. The Big East will likely lose one of its "football" programs and then things will crumble. If they don't get out, they crumble. There is a ton of pressure on their athletics programs to perform this year, but IMO its not likely to matter in the end. We, on the other hand, have zero pressure on us which could lend itself to our favor in the game.
I think the game will be a close, hard fought game regardless of what UL's fan base seems to think. If we come out on top, some of these clown posters coming over here will not be showing up to this thread I know that much. the way some of these guys are talking, if its anything but a blowout they will probably save face.
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