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WLEX reporting UK police cited Raymond Sanders, Bookie Cobbins and Marcus Caffey for marijuana possession on Sept. 13. That would explain the suspension for WKU game.
So stupid. So so stupid.
Been a Cat fan since August of '92
Even though it's probably not the fault of Joker and the staff, it's still a serious black eye on a program that is already circling the drain.
Wow, I never thought this out of Sanders... No wonder he has that lil gut...
Coshik is ailing so now you give Mobley and George the snaps..Do not waste Mobley's year..
Mobley has already played.
That's what I meant...He has not played much so don't waste this year.. Give him the ball ball as much as possible and let him be the player that was bragged about so much in fall camp..Joker has wasted redshirt seasons on a few players by playing them early and then we never see them again..
A coach is always responsible for the criminal actions of players on his teams. One of the excuses often used by those who say Petrino isnt worthy to be UK coach, that his teams were full of criminals (even though they never were, perception trumps facts).
A leaderless program running wild is sure what it appears. Guys not afraid to burn their blunts 2 days before an important game. Guys on the team not paying the slighest bit of attention to a 24 hour aftergame twitter ban.
I believe the marijuanna epidemic in college football is much greater than most are willing to admit, but with Sanders, it sure says a lot to me about his commitment. You are talking about a guy that should have been expecting to get some major playing time last Sat? I'm not gonna crucify anyone for smoking weed, especially a college kid, but it is a fact that it decreases your energy level a bit for a couple of days after smoking. I don't think Sanders is the kind of player that can afford to have his quickness/energy level decreased. And somehow, he is Joker's pet?
We get it man. You despise everything about Kentucky football, most notably Joker Phillips. It's come through loud and clear for a long time now. Try to tone down the rhetoric a bit.
Fact is there are more than 100 players in a football locker room. You can't police them all 24 hours a day. And oh by the way, 18-21 year olds make stupid decisions every day. Doesn't mean they have bad or ineffective authority figures in their lives.
It's just pot. There's no hangover. Side effects for 2 -3 hours would include a lot of pizza and a nap towards the end. I'd be more upset if they were caught drunk. I dislike Joker as much as anyone but you can't control every action of a person. If that were the case there'd be no point in punishing your children when they do something bad. Just punish the parent/parents. It's their fault.
Really not the biggest deal. Pot is everywhere on college campuses. These guys go to school, practice football, work out, eat and sleep. It is not surprising that in their down time they like to relax and pot definitely helps you do that. These three guys had to be doing something to get caught with it though, it is pretty easy to just sit at your couch and smoke, but my guess is these guys weren't sitting on their couch.
I will say in cases like Ridge where he is selling, or TCU drug scandal, that is a big deal and stuff you don't want around your program.
I am one who has very little tolerance for this sort of thing but the posts about how bad KY's discipline problems are, are wrong. Ky football has very few issues compared to the rest of the SEC. Georgia and TN seem to be the worst at the present time. A lot of the schools have policies that take virtually no action until the third or fourth incident. I'm really disappointed in Sanders and hope he gets his act together but lets not go off the deep end saying there is no discipline. In fact KY and Vandy have the toughest discipline policies in the SEC.
I'm not sure this would even make the news if it was UofL players. Why does Lex media treat foolball like they are the basketball team. MKG getting popped for weed is a story. This is not.
What? This post is beyond response really.
You know, you can say "it's just pot" all you want. The problem is that it is *illegal* to smoke pot and very likely will affect their on-the-field performance. They shouldn't be drinking or doing any recreational drugs at all during the season. And this is coming from someone who think's pot should be legalized, i.e. me.
3 scholarship football players getting cited for a crime 2 days before a game is going to be news for any team in the country. Do you really think the Louisville media would ignor this occuring with 3 UL players?
This is correct. First, losing game after game due to poor coaching. Players know this and hear this, and begin to lose respect for the coach. Manifests itself as ignoring twitter rules and now breaking the law with pot. Joker has lost the fans, now the players and has completely lost control of this program. This is unacceptable. Make a change now.
They have and they do.... Talk to anyone in Baton Rouge and they will tell you the Honey Badger was in trouble with the law every other month. None of it ever made the papers.
It's the sign of a big time program when your local media supports what your trying to build instead of trying to tear it apart!
Matt, you can't police ONE player 24/7. Nor should you have to. Has nothing to do with how many players are in the locker room. It has to do with players respecting the program and the coach. Respect of the coach will many times prevent stupid decisions from being made in the first place.
I still think Joker is a very fine person, a wonderful person and great example of character in a field where that trait is sometimes lacking. But that sometimes is not enough.
You think the Bama players don't respect Saben or the Ohio St players don't respect Meyer? Sure they do, but, the program still has similar incidents happening all the time. It's 18-20 yr old kids experiencing the college life and pot happens to be rampant on campuses. I doubt seriously that any of those 3 guys even thought about the implications or of Joker while they were doing it. Had absolutely nothing to do with respecting your coach.
College kids are going to make mistakes, sure. It's just unfortunate that it had to coincide with such a craptastic start to the year.
Actually I'd totally expect it to be brushed off as "violation of team rules" since UofL has one of the weakest NCAA testing policies in the country and the Louisville media is in their pocket.
FWIW, for those who are upset I can say from experience that more college athletes then not smoke pot. There's a lot of schools, especially SEC schools, where you wouldn't even hear about this until a guy was throwing in his 3rd or 4th "dirty" test and looking at a long-term suspension. That certainly doesn't excuse it and I've been just as vocal as anyone as of late over where we should go from here with Joker. But UK is one of the toughest schools in the conference when it comes to disciplining players so I'm willing to give Joker a pass on this one and a pass to those kids who served their suspension.
It's crappy timing, but it's pretty much par for the course at 99% of the schools in the country.
This post was edited by WildcatBelle 19 months ago
Some of you all are describing this incident as if these 3 guys failed a drug test. That isnt what happened, they were discovered by law enforcement to be smoking dope.
Hell, can't blame them. Just watching this team can make anybody wanna get high.
Kids do make mistakes and lets hope they learn from them. What is most disappointing about this is I fully would expect Sanders to be a role model and in leadership mode. Now that is not to say he won't get it and right his ship, because we have seen others in the past screw up in their earlier years and get it together. Lets hope the positive from this negative is he rights his ship, learned a good lesson and moving forward does the right things, not just for the FB side of it, but for his own good!
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