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He'd never take the job, but I think Jay Gruden would be an interesting choice.
Gruden would certainly bring excitement, but he might have gotten an NFL HC spot last year if he hadn't turned down interviews saying he wasn't ready and needed to stay with Bengals a while longer. When he is ready, I'd say there will be an NFL job waiting.
This guy could be interesting to keep an eye on. He probably won't be at SJSU much longer. He took a program that finished 2-10 and went 1-12 in year one. Last year, he was 5-7. This year, he is 3-1....with the lone loss a 3 point loss to Stanford.
I think he would have a hard time doing it and following the rules. The rules for NCAA recruiting are over the top in some areas. Coaches spend years coming up as assistants and these are the types of things they learn while growing as a coach. Gruden has never experienced that, and I could see some major recruiting violations happening, without intention.
Let's be honest, he has shown no interest in coaching again, so the thought he would come to UK, is less likely than Saban, because at least Saban wants to coach.
Uk is a totally different animal we are going to take time to win in this league period. So i hope whoever we hire us fans give him time to build his thing. petrino isnt coming. I think uks best bet is a big time assistant. no proven names at the hc ranks would dare take on the risk of uk football. I would love gruden but why in the world would he take the job. I think parcells would be way more realistic than gruden.
How do you know Petrino isn't coming or is that just an opinion?
hes my uncle lol j/k its an opinion like every post in this discussion. petrino would have to strike out on auburn to even entertain the idea. Plus we keep talking about how cheap and how little are admin cares about football why would they pay for a top tier coach who is not going to stand by while bball gets all the love. jmo
I hope Petrino gets the opportunity. I know he isn't the classiest guy on the list but he is one of a few that can win at Kentucky given the time. He will win anywhere he goes and it just as well be at Kentucky. I spend 8 hours a game driving to and from Lexington and I want a coach that wins games. I don't care what type of person he is off the field, I just want a winning coach. IMO Petrino could most likely be that person.
LOL! Mitch has said money is not an issue when hiring the next coach. Apparently you don't really follow UK football very much. Please get a little info before posting. This is why they have the ignore button I guess.
I'd love to see Petrino here. If this can be turned around without violations he would be one of about 10-15 coaches that could do it. The problem as I see it is that it's only him, Butch Davis, and Tressel the vest that are unemployed. We aren't Arkansas. We aren't likely to turn around as quickly as they did under him. He works as harder than about any coach but it would take him longer to turn us than other schools with more focus on football. We are assuming he would only want to coach in the SEC. There will be a number of schools looking by the end of the year from all over the country. He could build a program in a conference he doesn't play a national championship caliber opponent 3 or 4 times in the regular season.
LOL. Its not about salary so please get some info before posting. It would be about commitment to building the program. If we can show Bobby a plan to make UK on par with other SEC schools then we've got a chance. If not then we don't have a chance. Very good chance Bobby will have a better opportunity than UK at the end of the year. Apparently you don't really follow UK football very much.
Jon Gruden and Jay Gruden are different people. Jay is the offensive coordinator for the Bengals.
Has anybody suggested Herm "you play to win the game" Edwards? Watcha think?
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Randy Sanders...(I jest)...but in all honesty, it would not surprise me if Mitch went CHEAP & DULL..And pulled some no name from no where & tried to sell him as a savior. (only to do the same in 3-4yrs)
He seems perfectly content to let UK FB mire at the btm of the SEC / NCAA D1, as long as they turn a sizable profit to fuel the non-revenue sports & feed the pet-projects of the UK ADMIN.
Might as well just plan on the next 60 yrs of UK FB, being exactly like the last 60!!! 1 giant suckfest yr after another!
What happened to Randy Edsall at Maryland?
He's imploding at the other school to screw over Bear Bryant
The more I think about it the more Tressel makes sense. Yes. We would take on his NCAA sanctions. But he's a hell of a coach and the pressure to build the program would be lessened since we would not be building to get a Music City Bowl each year. We gave Brooks a pass until the first year we came off probation. That turned out pretty well. I've already traded a lifetime of mediocrity. What's a few years investment longer to build it from the bottom up?
I don't see anything wrong with being cheap. UK Athletics is a business. That's not to say I think Mitch wouldn't go after a really strong hire with the money he needed. The money can be found. The lack of availability of that type of candidate is where the problem is.
Some people were upset when Mitch got outbid by Baylor on a mediocre coach. I think we lost Guy Morriss at a bad time (and I liked him), but there was no way UK should have paid up for his services.
I believe that a wide range of options were explored before Coach Brooks was hired, and his hiring was a solid choice. More expensive choices were considered, but it would not have been a better choice if Mitch had paid above market value. Likewise, Joker was a solid choice for a variety of reasons one of which may have been his cost not only in his salary but in what would have been his loyalty to UK had he been successful.
Well again, there's a five year show cause.
Can't be cheap with this hire. Not only do we need to pay whatever a guy like Petrino desires we also need to make a financial commitment to putting this program on equal footing with other SEC programs. In no way will being cheap get that done.
I agree UK needs to put more money into the facilities but to say salary doesn't matter is ridicilous! Your not gonna get a good hc paying 1.5 mill. a year.
I also follow UK football very closely, probably more than I should.
My point is that cheap may be the right decision.
Candidates at the top of the list are not going to make a decision based on money. Gruden isn't going to decide to come back into coaching for a paycheck--it's a life decision. Likewise, Saban won't leave Bama if you double his salary--because they're Bama. It just doesn't work like that. So, very likely, there are no candidates at the top of the list that are going to even talk to us.
Then you have a group about whom money is not the issue. If Petrino is not hired (and he won't be), it's not because we can't afford him but because he's deeply flawed. The same can be said for Tressel or Davis. The decision is not about the money.
This is a hard hire. It will probably not work--that's not pessimism but reality. Alabama is 2 for eight in coaching hires since the Bear left. Florida is 1-1 and1 undecided since Spurrier. Leaving the jury out on Kelly, Notre Dame has made 8 bad hires to one good one since Parseaghian. These are all great programs, on par (or nearly so) with Kentucky basketball.
Of the coaches left, I just don't see why the money makes a big difference. You're just as likely to do well or to strike out with a decent middle of a pack coach from another big conference (for whom you'd have to open the bank account) as you are an up and comer from a minor conference who'll sacrifice salary for his shot at the big leagues.
It's not about what you pay or right now, even who you pay...It's about not REALLY giving whoever the next guy in charge of the FB program the chance to compete on a level playing field w/ those that he has to compete against!
(IE... Sometimes you get a great deal for much less than expected...But most of the time, you get what you pay for...So, why overpay for a great coach that the UK Admin isn't going to fully support!!!)
I would disagree--you may hire a good coach for 1.5 million--you won't be able to keep him for that, but there's probably two or three guys out there making much less who will some day be hall of fame coaches. The trick is figuring out who they are.
On the other hand, it may take $2 million or more to hire a mediocre coach. If Mack Brown calls up Mitch and says match my $5 million and I'll come to UK--would we do that--I mean, he must be good since he makes all that money.
No proven HC is going to come here unless UK is willing to pay top money. That's what UK has to do along with facility upgrades. No more mediocre coaches, D2 coaches or whomever. UK has to hire a proven coach and that's going to cost money. Nothing more nothing less.
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