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Why didn't UK recruit this kid?

  • Bo Brooks, Running Back, Henry Clay High School

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYvHzrlIVs4

    He is 5'8"/192. He has run a sub 11.0 time in the 100 meters. Great running instincts, good hands, speed, vision.

    He is in the mold of great smallish backs like Barry Sanders, Maurice Jones-Drew and Ray Rice.

    His father started at running back for 4 years during some of the Wildcats best seasons in the late 1970's. It seems sometimes staffs want to go hundreds of miles away from home to find a kid like this who is in your backyard.

    I scratch my head as to why UK did not recruit this kid????

    This post was edited by 5368ppi 3 years ago

  • Nice looking back. Is he playing College ball?

  • The latest word is that Syracuse University is making a late run for Bo Brooks.

  • 5368ppi said... (original post)

    Bo Brooks, Running Back, Henry Clay High School

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYvHzrlIVs4

    He is 5'8"/192. He has run a sub 11.0 time in the 100 meters. Great running instincts, good hands, speed, vision.

    He is in the mold of great smallish backs like Barry Sanders, Maurice Jones-Drew and Ray Rice.

    His father started at running back for 4 years during some of the Wildcats best seasons in the late 1970's. It seems sometimes staffs want to go hundreds of miles away from home to find a kid like this who is in your backyard.

    I scratch my head as to why UK did not recruit this kid????

    I'm sure they're aware, and probably offered him a walk-on spot, but you can tell from the kinda RBs we've been recruiting lately, that they're trying to make the waterbug RB a thing of the past.

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  • 5368ppi said... (original post)

    The latest word is that Syracuse University is making a late run for Bo Brooks.

    That's not exactly a ringing endorsement. :p

    "Apparently the University of Kentucky basketball dynasty is to continue forever." - Philadelphia Inquirer, December 23 1954.

  • Syracuse? I'm sure the kid is talented, but Syracuse is the worst team in the Big East. Like it has been said, I'm sure a walk-on spot was offered, but running back wasn't a huge need. I take Clemons and Caffey eight days a week.

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  • BigBlueTopper said... (original post)

    I'm sure they're aware, and probably offered him a walk-on spot, but you can tell from the kinda RBs we've been recruiting lately, that they're trying to make the waterbug RB a thing of the past.

    Not according to the UK offerings to the Class of 2012 in Rivals.com.

    UK has offered all-purpose backs Brian Kimbrow 5'9"/165 Memphis, TN and Anthony Wales 5'9"/170 Louisville. Running backs with offers from UK include Mike Davis 5'9"/192 Stone Mtn, GA who has verbally committed to Florida and Miles Jones 5'9"/190 Acworth, GA.

    I would take a "waterbug" running back like Maurice Jones-Drew (5'7/210) or Ray Rice (5'8"/205) any day of the week. The kid at Henry Clay has a great upside and big-time D-I ability.

  • Any chance you are a friend or family member? I'll reserve judgement until I see some tape on him, but there has got to be a reason that he doesn't have offers.

    @JEdwar247

  • Not a friend of his or a family member.

    His father Randy Brooks was a fine running back for Fran Curci's Cats. I saw this kid in parks and rec and thought we would be seeing great things from him in the future. I know Henry Clay has had some really good skilled talent in the last five or so years and he just didn't get many touches because of that.....thus, limited publicity. I see him as having more upside than several running backs UK has recruited in the past few years.

    You can click the YouTube link on post #1 and make your own evaluation

    By the way, what was the reason John Conner did not have scholarship offers out of high school, but became a four year letterman at UK and an NFL draft pick?

  • Again, there are hits and misses when you take chances on kids. The hits are the most obvious. But you don't pass up a Caffey or a Clemons for Bo Brooks. We didn't need anymore RB's.

    @JEdwar247

  • 5368ppi said... (original post)

    Not according to the UK offerings to the Class of 2012 in Rivals.com.

    UK has offered all-purpose backs Brian Kimbrow 5'9"/165 Memphis, TN and Anthony Wales 5'9"/170 Louisville. Running backs with offers from UK include Mike Davis 5'9"/192 Stone Mtn, GA who has verbally committed to Florida and Miles Jones 5'9"/190 Acworth, GA.

    I would take a "waterbug" running back like Maurice Jones-Drew (5'7/210) or Ray Rice (5'8"/205) any day of the week. The kid at Henry Clay has a great upside and big-time D-I ability.

    Brandon Gainer 5'11" 203, Jonathan George 5-10 205, Raymond Sanders 5-8 198 pounds. Say what you want about Sanders only being 5'8, but the kid weighs about 200 pounds, so he doesn't really qualify as a "waterbug" running back. He's capable of running you over. The two kids we have coming in, Caffey is 6' 191, and Clemons is 5-10 202...So we're starting to stray away from recruiting waterbugs, scat backs... smaller running backs, if you will. You'll take a guy like that as a change of pace guy, but you can tell the staff is trying to become a traditional style offense with massive offensive linemen and RBs who can run between the tackles. Also, we have THREE walk-on RBs coming in next year, so that's a total of 5 RBs in one class, on top of the 4 who are already on the roster. The walk-ons are: Brandon Ford 5-10 195 4.4 40, Derek Bishop is 5-9 185, and Terrence Timmons 5-8 180 4.4 40. Having 9 running backs is probably a good reason why Kentucky didn't recruit the kid.

    This post was edited by BigBlueTopper 3 years ago

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  • I understand "legacy" but in football it is what makes tradition. UK should always offer the sons of past players if they can play. That is the only way to really build tradition in a program and besides, hes a Kentucky kid.

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  • It is hard to know why he doesn't have more offers but it may be due to his production on the field or his participation in camps. Balance, vision, quickness, academics are all issues which are hard to express in a quick post but may push him down the list. I can understand UK overlooking a Lexington kid, although this new staff is pretty through, but the fact that no instate schools have offered him makes me think there is something rational holding him back. I remember his dad who was an outstanding running back. I wish his son the best.

  • mrhotdice said... (original post)

    I understand "legacy" but in football it is what makes tradition. UK should always offer the sons of past players if they can play. That is the only way to really build tradition in a program and besides, hes a Kentucky kid.

    The key phrase there is "if they can play". So which RB would you have passed over for Brooks? I like Kentucky kids as much as the next guy but I wouldn't give up Clemons or Caffey for him.

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  • zcats said... (original post)

    It is hard to know why he doesn't have more offers but it may be due to his production on the field or his participation in camps. Balance, vision, quickness, academics are all issues which are hard to express in a quick post but may push him down the list. I can understand UK overlooking a Lexington kid, although this new staff is pretty through, but the fact that no instate schools have offered him makes me think there is something rational holding him back. I remember his dad who was an outstanding running back. I wish his son the best.

    I will let you in on a secret in UK recruiting of Kentucky and especially Lexington kids.

    UK does not offer local and in the state of Kentucky kids until they have scholarship offers from other schools. At that point, they usually pull the trigger.

    The best example I can give of this is Winston Guy. He prepped at Lexington Catholic and was not even on UK's board and was not even getting letters from UK. He was getting some attention from other schools, but not Division I teams. Winston then went to a Nike camp in May of his junior year. He was measured and had great size, speed, and was named the camp's defensive back MVP. He was immediately offered by Arkansas and Minnesota that very day. I kid you not, Chuck Smith was at Lexington Catholic within two days to offer WInston a scholarship to UK.

    My question is....why was UK not on this kid from the start?

    I think the Bo Brooks situation is very similar. The difference is that Bo Brooks did not go to a Nike Camp. If you made a check list of desires in a running back, he is a "check" plus in every category. Also, it says on the YouTube highlight reel that he holds a 3.5 GPA so academics are not in question as they are for many of these kids. John Conner was obviously in a similar situation. Great intangibles, great kid. Just no bright spotllight shining on him.

    I can not speak for the abilities of UK recruits Caffey and Clemmons because I have not seen these kids play. I have seen Bo Brooks play football and run track and fellas, he is a great prospect who UK should have been all over from the start.

  • 5368ppi said... (original post)

    Syracuse? I'm sure the kid is talented, but Syracuse is the worst team in the Big East. Like it has been said, I'm sure a walk-on spot was offered, but running back wasn't a huge need. I take Clemons and Caffey eight days a week.

    I guess you slept through last year. Syracuse was the surprise team of college football in 2010.

  • I don't know specifically about Bo Brooks and his situation. Maybe another John Cole. But, what this poster is saying about UKs recruiting in Lexington does hold some water. Guy and Zach West and too great examples. Kyle Bolin may be another.

    Until this staff loses a Dawson (dermonti), a Couch, a Pinner, or a Peters out of Lexington I'm not going to sweat it.

    John Conner was a DL or LB in HS I think.

  • 5368ppi said... (original post)

    I will let you in on a secret in UK recruiting of Kentucky and especially Lexington kids.

    UK does not offer local and in the state of Kentucky kids until they have scholarship offers from other schools. At that point, they usually pull the trigger.

    The best example I can give of this is Winston Guy. He prepped at Lexington Catholic and was not even on UK's board and was not even getting letters from UK. He was getting some attention from other schools, but not Division I teams. Winston then went to a Nike camp in May of his junior year. He was measured and had great size, speed, and was named the camp's defensive back MVP. He was immediately offered by Arkansas and Minnesota that very day. I kid you not, Chuck Smith was at Lexington Catholic within two days to offer WInston a scholarship to UK.

    My question is....why was UK not on this kid from the start?

    I think the Bo Brooks situation is very similar. The difference is that Bo Brooks did not go to a Nike Camp. If you made a check list of desires in a running back, he is a "check" plus in every category. Also, it says on the YouTube highlight reel that he holds a 3.5 GPA so academics are not in question as they are for many of these kids. John Conner was obviously in a similar situation. Great intangibles, great kid. Just no bright spotllight shining on him.

    I can not speak for the abilities of UK recruits Caffey and Clemmons because I have not seen these kids play. I have seen Bo Brooks play football and run track and fellas, he is a great prospect who UK should have been all over from the start.

    UK has not always had a great relationship with the Lexington HS scene which turns out a few SEC level D1 players. That is undeniable. I have no idea what happened with Winston Guy but the time line in that story is not so out of line in my opinion. You are blaming UK for not recruiting this young man but honestly why has no one else offered? If UK missed him so did everyone else. Either you are personally connected with this player or you have found a gem that every college coach has missed. UK does recruit Henry Clay and has a connection with the coaches there. Honestly, bringing his name up once may help him get noticed but continuing to argue about him does not help his case.

  • I have no info on Brooks other than I saw a 100m time of 11.53 and he finished around 7th. Fast time, but not Derrick Locke fast. I'm sure Brooks is a solid person and player, but UK bases a lot of their offers on kids in camp and coaching connections. That is exactly what every other SEC school does too. As a season ticket holder, I could give a "...." less where they get the players. I just want them to get'em.

    After Clemmons & Caffey signed last Feb., there was a lot of people in Ga. ticked that the Dawgs didn't offer either one. A lot of people had seen both play and said it was a crap shoot who was better, either one of them or Crowell. When you're talking at a minimum of getting the 2nd & 3rd best backs in the state of Ga in the same class, I don't think I would be troubled because Brooks didn't get an offer.

    You used Winston Guy as an example, and yes, I agree with what happened in that situation. However, there are many, many more players on the roster where UK was the very first big time offer for them. Larry Warford is a perfect example. He committed early, never went to any other camps and will be playing on Sundays.