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At least you're right about one thing.....you really DON'T know anything about Petrino.
* Bobby Petrino has proven beyond a doubt that he is a pathological liar at every stop he's been.
* Bobby Petrino has royally screwed over EVERYONE who has employed him as a head coach.
* While at UaVel, he was caught with his pants down diddling with Bobby Lowder and the Barner contingent and tried to lie out of it.
* While at UaVel, he constantly job shopped while claiming to be loyal to UaVel.
* Ran a renegade program at UaVel that had a good chunk of "student athletes" who were less than desireable additions to the community. Steve Kragthorpe tried to clean it up, but by the time he took the trash out, he was left with a fraction of the talent and it cost him his job.
* Crawled away from the Falcons in the middle of the season without even addressing his team when he figured out the job was a little more than he could handle.
* At Arkansas he thought it would be a good idea to start boinking a grad student that was not only half his age, but who he knew was engaged to another employee in the Arkansas athletic department.
* Hired that same lady into a cushy $50K a year job (with a large "signing bonus" to boot) in the athletic department over dozens of vastly more qualified applicants, and putting the univeristy at risk for numerous lawsuits.
* Lied about not knowing her previous to the hire.
* Thought that it would be a good idea to take this lady on a Sunday afternoon Harley ride without his helmet, even though he was one of the most recognizable people in the state.
* Wrecks the bike, then tried to involve a friend with the Arkansas State Police to help cover up his mess.
*Lies to his family, boss, fans, players, and the media about the incident.
* Uses his University of Arkansas issued cell phone to text nearly 4,000 messages to his sweetie, along with hundreds of phone calls, even though he lied about knowing her before he hired her.
* Used the same phone to send nearly 300 texts to another hottie he knows in Little Rock, along with rumored nude photos of himself.
* Best (IMO) play caller in college football.
* Pathological liar.
* Arrogantly stupid
* Just an all around asshat in general.
This isn't the guy that you want to be the face of the UK program.
Jarhead, That is some motivating SHIT!!!
I want the season to start......
I want them to play well.....
And, I want to see Joker (a quality individual) succeed in the worst way. He cares about this school and program like no one else.
Petrino has burnt a lot of bridges. He even burns bridges before he ever crosses them. No way to UK.
You (and everyone else) is blowing this deal out of proportion. Somebody will hire Petrino in the future. It may very well be UK. You can be guaranteed that if Petrino is available and Joker gets fired that hewill at least be in the discussion. Winning and money are the things that drive SEC football, and UK needs to make a splash. Would Petrino be my personal first choice? No. Would I quit watching UK football if he was hired? No. The most laughable part of this is the people that get all saying that they will "never watch another game of UK football" if Petrino is hired. I call BS on that.
Also, don't bash on someone's intelligence if you're going to screw up your grammar. In the first place it's rude, in the second place that sort of thing isn't good for civil discussion on the board. Leave that sort of behavior for Louisville fans.
He will never coach at UK in my opinion. He makes Mike Leach look like Mother Theresa and he was too much for the sensitive constitution of the UK administration when it comes to football.
There is a price point where he would become a favorable hire. It's all about value. If UK could get him for a small salary with the idea that it would bump up in a few years with good behavior then I can see them taking a stab at it. I don't think they'll pay full price for him, but I don't think they would have to. There's no doubt that he's a heck of a coach.
Petrino will NEVER coach at UK.
Plenty of good coaches out there if or when we need one. I still have hope that the Coach we have will pull through and have a long career at UK.
Are you the AD? Are you the president of UK? Are you on the board of directors?
Never is a strong word and lots of things can happen.
I agree, he shouldnt bash intelligence when he doesn't even know proper English but you are wrong. Mitch Barnhart despises Petrino. He will never coach at uk.
I wouldn't watch a game he coached. I'd start back up again after he left in the middle of the season for another job or got fired for banging the staff.
As for the program, the one thing I feel entirely secure in saying is that Mitch would not hire Petrino. If it were to happen, it would be with a different AD.
None of the above but I'm telling you Bobby Petrino will never coach at UK. The AD, BOT and President will never sign on for that hire.
What did Petrino do? He had an affair with a young lady he hired. So did Bill Clinton. He quit a job to take another.(who hasn't) Ppl talk about Bear Bryant in high regard but, he left UK to take the Bama job.
All I'm saying is he may be douche bag, but he's a hell of coach and recruiter. Best of luck to Joker and staff but, it's a chance I would take as AD. You can get him on the cheap and keep him for a few seasons. He's gonna have to keep clean for a while or he will never get back to a "dream job". If he came in won the SEC/East it would help the program and school.
He exposed the state university to enormous legal liability and lied to his administrators repeatedly about the source of the legal liability.
Focusing on the moral lapse as his only indiscretion is intellectually dishonest. Someone somewhere may take a chance on Bobby Petrino in the future. If that risk-taker is another university, they have opened themselves up to a world of legal liability due to the public exposure Petrino's actions have garnered.
Tell me what defenses the University will assert when Mary Sue Employee sues the University and Petrino for sexual harrassment. Are you counting on Petrino to never have another moral lapse? Are you counting on the female University employees keeping their mouths shut and construing Petrino's every action and statement as non-sexual and completely professional in nature?
Legal liability is a very real concern with Petrino going forward. That liability will be the reason he struggles to get a job, not any moral or professional lapses in judgment.
This post was edited by JDHLaw11 23 months ago
Hell yeah 1st Sgt... I'm starving for some damn football. I can't wait to see them come running out of the tunnel for the first time. Better yet, I can't wait to see them come out fired up and ready to kick some red feathered ass!
Btw, I'm hoping to hear something any day now about my season tickets
This has been stated repeatedly by myself and others, but I'll go with it one more time.
The affair itself doesn't matter. If Petrino had been boinking someone in his own social circle or the cutie down at the local diner, he would still be employed at Arkansas. But instead, he:
* Hired a woman he was sleeping with into a cushy nice paying university job.
*Gave her that job over dozens of vastly more qualified applicants.
*Lied about knowing her previous to hiring her.
*Gave her a $20K "bonus".
*Those actions left the university at risk for lawsuits from the other applicants.
*Tried to involve a friend with the Arkansas State Police in covering up his mess.
*Lied to his boss, family, players, fans and media about the accident as he tried to cover it up.
*Used his university issued cell phone to send nearly 4000 text messages and more than 300 phone calls to his girl friend.
*Used his university issued cell phone to send over 300 text messages, included supposedly some nude photos of himself to another hottie he was "friends" with in Little Rock.
I can't believe people are having such a hard time understanding what Petrino has done....
Bryant don't leave for bama genius. He left for texas a&m. Fail....
Which is exactly what you said about Calipari about 3 years ago.
Maybe it is because he is such a great football coach who wins games while playing an exciting style, JD. All your items a great and valid points. But want to know what trumps them, or will in the mind of some BCS conference AD this Nov/Dec?
*41-9 in 4 years at UL, including their one and only BCS bowl appearance
*21-5 the last 2 years at Arkansas, including their one and only BCS bowl appearance
Mitch is the same AD who hired Dennis Erikson who was universally viewed as leading and contributing to a thug gangsta program at Miami, and who hired John Calipari who yes spare me all the defenses and escuses, was and still is widely viewed as someone who violates NCAA recruiting rules. Despite this I agree with those who say there is no way possible Mitch would ever take a risk at greatness for UK football by hiring a Petrino or Leach.
That's pretty much the whole point of this conversation- people get all worked up and push out their chests and say, "not in MY state". But then things change if the person in question is then hired.
What's the old adage? Never say never? I agree that it's highly unlikely that Petrino will be hired, but I'm not putting it past the administration, particularly when they see high level bowl money staring them in the face.
Call it all you want, this wouldn't even be a tough decision for me...
Zero. Point. Zero.
Eh. I'd like to win, but I don't think Petrino is the right coach for UK.
Keep Calm & Stoops On..
Yeah, to be honest I would take a chance on a lot of questionable guys but not Petrino. Listen even when he was at UL and winning, people very high up in the UL athletic department hated Petrino. He is a crazy jerk. I would have taken Leach in a second but never Petrino.
UK won't be able to hire a coach of his caliber....he builds winners where they shouldn't be and turns 3*'s into 5* players.
With that said, we should never hire this guy.
Is Petrino a nice guy, no, is an asshole, yes, does he piss people off everywhere he goes, yes.
Does he win games, yes.
For all these people to say NEVER, then there must have been some VERY strong opinions made blantantly obvious from within the Athletic Administration.
My point about Cal's baggage earlier was that before Cal was hired here, many UK fans had the same view point as many others throghout the US have/had. That he did shady things to recruit/win etc.
Since Cal has gotten here have we learned otherwise? why hell yea, we love him and will defend him to the end.
Petrino has zero violation bagge correct? (i'm legitimately asking)
Petrino's baggage is all on character.
If Petrino was to come here and win, no one would really give a ish. Until he jumped ship for somewhere else. Someone will hire hime next year IMO, will be interesting because sitting here thinking what coaches are on the hot seat in the SEC I can only see UK and UT possible changing coaches. Hell, petrino may end up in the Big 12.
All in all, I hope Joker can pull it off, I think he's a high character individual that is trying the recruit high character kids. I would like for UK's program to be built and have success like that, but if this team implodes as the season goes on a change will be made, and to say NEVER for petrino is a strong strong word IMO.
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