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Excellent read on Grantland, even if you disagree with stance

  • It's rare to find someone in national media these days who can make his argument without cheap shots and baseless accusations. Chuck Klosterman shows why he's one of the best here.

    John Calipari, Anthony Davis, and what Kentucky's march to the Final Four means for college basketball - Grantland

    They're going to win. And what happens next will be really bad for college basketball.

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    Jeff Drummond

  • College basketball will become a fringe niche sport because of the trend Calipari may start? Chuck, maybe you havent been paying attention, but it already is a niche sport outside of the states of Kentucky & North Carolina. It no longer has devoted national following outside of March Madness, not compared to NFL/College Football. UK-IU and UK-North Carolina back in December were excellent games that everyone who loves college basketball looked forward too....but did horrible overall TV ratings.

    JHB4UK

  • Awful awful article. Kentucky winning will do NOTHING to change college basketball. Ridiculous. Yeah, god forbid a team of talented players that play together and are actually capable of playing the sport at a high level win the championship.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Ioannis on 3/28/2012 at 2:28 PM

    Ioannis

  • He's being a little bit of an alarmist, but overall he makes some good points. They may not set well with us as UK fans, but that doesn't make them less valid.

    BigTyrone

  • A pretty good read. He's a good writer. I think he's a bit too worried. If UK wins 10 in a row he may be on to something. I don't see that happening. UCLA's run didn't ruin college bball. Changing college bball is out of Cal's hands. That is up to the NCAA and/or the NBA. They can institute rules to put a stop to one and done. They haven't done anything.

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    CarlLexington

  • But it still misses on several points. One, Cal isn't the only one rolling the dice w/one and done players and the only reason he's had more over the last several years is he's out recruited everybody else (3 straight #1 recruiting classes w/another one very possible). Other teams ARE still recruiting the top talent and LOSING them after one year (Irving, Rivers at Duke, Josh Selby at Kansas to name a few). Secondly, who would have ever thought that Orton and Bledsoe would turn pro after 1 year when they signed their LOI's?? Those two really skew the numbers for that year and feed the revolving door mantra.

    I hate the one and done system and until the Cats win a national championship, the argument will persist that this approach won't get you there (I got it, that's one of the points of the article). But irrespective of the fact if UK wins it all or not, coaches are going to continue to recruit the best players out there and these players, if good enough (or sometimes not good enough but believe their own hype) will leave after one year. That's the system as it's currently designed and UK winning a NC won't change that fact one bit. If Saint Mike of K is actively recruiting Shabazz, doesn't that indicate he's already bought into the one and done system particularly after losing to straight point guards to the league after one year???

    BTW, minus Orton and Bledsoe, Cal's one and done's seem to be doing pretty damn good in the league which I think should provide him a bit more top cover than kids who just run to the league and flop abysmally.

    This post was edited by ukaveman on 3/28/2012 at 2:36 PM

    ukaveman

  • I like Klosterman--he makes some good points, but I think he's wrong on two counts.

    One--the current state of things isn't going to persist. Something different is going to happen with NBA eligibility sometime and I don't think the current situation will last long enough to make a lasting impression.

    Two--ruining the sport for him is not the same as ruining the whole thing. Thinking back to when free agency started in baseball, many people thought it would ruin the sport and it did for some fans--to some degree including me. However, baseball is a lot more valuable and a lot more fans (maybe not as a percentage of the population) than it did 40 years ago. They've done ok without me. Whose to say college basketball wouldn't be even more popular if the scenario he predicts comes true?

    djkycat54906

  • What about UConn last year. They won with Freshman?!? Isnt that just as bad from this guys perspective?

    dramsey79

  • BigTyrone said...

    He's being a little bit of an alarmist, but overall he makes some good points. They may not set well with us as UK fans, but that doesn't make them less valid.

    Exactly.

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    Jeff Drummond

  • He makes good points, I have to agree. Doesn't mean I can agree with those points, though. He basically accuses Cal as the one who is going to "kill" college basketball. Yet, Cal isn't the ONLY coach who follows the One & Done Rule. He just does it better than anyone else.

    Keep Calm & Stoops On..

    _Mike_

  • And here is the counter punch, so to speak. biggrin

    Please Don't Lose, Kentucky - The Triangle Blog - Grantland

    I'm not what you would call a Kentucky fan. I'm not from Kentucky, I've never been to Kentucky, and it might be a long time, possibly as long as for

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    Keep Calm & Stoops On..

    _Mike_

  • He wrote what every non UK fan wants to hear, and that is that Kentucky is bad for basketball. Nothing original there.

    There are only so many ways of saying you don't like Kentucky. Congratulations Mr. Klosterman, you have just checked another one of them off the list.

    JohnBlue_

  • The original article's author is going to flip out because he thinks Cal is going to change college basketball if he wins THIS year. What he doesn't realize is this year is ONLY THE BEGINNING. If we are going to change things for the worst by winning a title in ONLY 2012 what article will he write next year when we are on the verge of doing this:

    1. UK will win the 2012 title.
    2. UK's top six players will all leave to the NBA.
    3. UK will sign ANOTHER #1 class.
    4. UK will start a roster in 2012 of (or something like this): Harrow, Goodwin, Muhammad, Poythress, and Noel. With a bench of Cauley, Hood,Wiltjer, Oriake?, etc. (I can't spell these names, ha ha) That's FIVE new starters with four freshmen and one guy new to the program. The team will be COMPLETELY rebuilt and LOADED again.
    5. UK will not go undefeated or even win as much as in 2012, but they will still go to the Final Four rounding into form in March.
    6. UK will WIN THE TITLE AGAIN IN 2013. While replacing it's entire top six from 2012.
    7. The national media will EXPLODE with criticism as we just fielded another semi-pro team and made a mockery of the game.
    8. UK will rinse and repeat until somebody steps up (fulfilling the authors prophecy) or they change the rules to "make it fair again".

    Bottom line....I think we're the luckiest bastards in college sports right now (our only challenger is Bama football).

    jamccain

  • That was a lot of handwaving over something that really happened many years ago. Just look at your Carmelo Anthony championship. Mike Bibby?

    One and dones have been important to the game for many, many years. We've just taken it to another level.

    BlueGhost

  • BlueGhost said...

    That was a lot of handwaving over something that really happened many years ago. Just look at your Carmelo Anthony championship. Mike Bibby?

    One and dones have been important to the game for many, many years. We've just taken it to another level.

    Damn you beat me to it! Lol. Nobody and I mean NOBODY ever mentions that Syracuse team that actually had another freshman in Macnamara, and wasn't Warrick a freshman too? If not, he was a soph.

    But then again, ole Jimmy at Cuse is everything that's right and good and innocent about college basketball (as seen with all their off the court issues) and Cal is simply the devil.

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    tommy

  • That article is ridiculous. Cal isn't the only coach recruiting these kids, all the other coaches are already trying to recruit the one and dines too. Difference is that they flourish here and are desired by the NBA even more after Cal's mentoring.

    Cal doesn't like the current system and wants it changed, he is merely playing by the current set of rules and doing it better than everyone else.

    That 'please don't lose' article was rack!

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    Stoopified!

    cobbycobb