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Has Cal lost this team?

  • mr289 said...

    I take it that most of that is directed to me since I started the thread and have been talking about getting more players who will stay longer. I love having top talent and I believe you need it to win titles, but you also need just a few good players who will stay around awhile. I don't see why that is such a hard thing to accomplish. My only question is this, and answer me honestly, what would be wrong with Cal picking up 2-4 superstar players each year and lining his bench with guys who will stay a couple years to help support the talented freshmen that comes in each year? I just really do not think that that type of team is an impossible task to achieve, especially for a coach with the recruiting talent of Cal. Again I love having the top players, just not without some upperclassmen supporting players.

    I understand completely the value of upper-classmen with experience ... but I don't believe that you recruit with that goal in mind. You don't start out with your philosophy as 'Okay ... we're going to recruit 2 players who are true impact players that can help us win now and 4 guys who are so-so and will be role players three years from now.' If it happens in the normal course of things over the years, that's great, and can be a positive when it does, but you don't start out with that as your recruiting strategy.

    Show me any successful coach in any sport at any level who doesn't want the best available players every time. Cal himself (who I think has been fairly successful) says 'Give me the best players out there and I'll figure out what to do with them when I get them.' (I'm paraphrasing here.) What's the old saying? "Jimmys and Joes beat X's and O's."

    On top of that, every top-level recruit that doesn't come here because we have a roster full of 4-year mediocre talent ... will go to our competition. And, in basketball in particular, it only takes a couple of those somewhere else to give your competition an edge you can't overcome. If you pass up 2-4 one-and-dones a year to hang on to a part-time role player for 4 years ... that's 8-16 5-star players that end up at Carolina, Duke, Louisville, Kansas, Indiana, etc. that would have been on your roster.

    I just don't agree at all with your strategy as an overall recruiting philosophy. If it happens on its own ... that's fine ... but you don't intentionally change your recruiting to fit that model.

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  • A lot of these kids are pretty savvy when it comes to understanding how the "real world" works- better than we'd like to give them credit for (meaning they know coachspeak when they hear it, just like we do). Cal, above all, is a marketer. He's able to say things like, "if you come to Kentucky it isn't easy" and "we play the best players" when there is no competition to speak of for a given position. Recruits take notice of highly touted players that come in and ride the bench. Calipari has a plan and a track record and it's served him well.

    This post was edited by BlueGhost on 1/14/2013 at 12:39 PM

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