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How I see 2013 football class winding up.

  • BigBlueDawg12 said...

    OK, "Bear" with me here for a few ticks Bearcatz... Timmons...is a 4 star..90 rating recruit by Rivals...Fant...a 2 star 78 rating. Yeah..Fant has a FSU offer..but past that Ole Miss, and UK, its Middle Tenn St, WKU, ect. Timmons has Arkansas, Uk, Purdue, illinois...with Ohio St, Bama, USC..both of em..getting ready to pop. And since this is 247 lets go by 247 ratings...Timmons..90/Fant 78. Timmons is 5'11..closer to 6'0 185..Fant..5'10, clsoer to 5'9..and 160...Timmons is much faster than Fant too. Timmons listed at 4.40/Fant at 4.48..I have personally watched Timmons run a 4.36 and have heard reports of 4.31.
    And as far as the competition they play..Atlanta is not the hotbed of Georgia..that would go to southern Ga, the Lagranges, Valdostas, ect ect. Timmons plays in 5A football..vs the Bowling Greens, Warren Centrals, Hardin teams..last year Timmons rushed for 1,382 yards..at 22.3 yards per carry with 20 td totes..he also caught 38 passes..for 1,100 yards and 18 Tds..thats 28.9 yards per grab and nearly 50% (47%?) of hs grabs went for scores. Thats 100 touches for 2,482 yards and 38 Td's ..thats 24.8 yards per touch..scoring on 38% of those touches. That was Timmons junior year. Hes only getting bigger, faster, stronger as he matures into a man...I see Timmon ending up 6'0/6'1 195/200 and being one of those rare sub 4.3 40 guys with a 40" plus vertical. And hes tough to boot. Timmons is the 2 time regining 100m dash champ in state..and held fastest time last year regarless of class(A-6A)
    the only dangerous thing about this post is guys trying to turn it into Fant vs Timmons...I want Both ....Timmons can come in immeadiately and bring help to Uk's offense as both a reciever and a runner..and returner too. I just dont see many 160lb corners playing in the SEC. or 170 there are a couple..but 99% of guys 160-170 cant tackle a SEC RB like Lattimore, Trent Richardson, ect..and if they have to..they wont be long for the injury list.Fant can help us..just not as soon..he'll need to add some weight..get to 175..180..so his body can hold up. Timmons is SEC ready right now. That siad..I do not or do not claim to know it all..Im just going by stats..and my own personal views of Ryan Timmons..Ive never watched Fant beyond his highlight reel. Kid could be a Beast..im just not holding my breath untill he adds weight and strength.

    See below apologies for the double

    This post was edited by goldenbearcatz on 7/25/2012 at 12:06 AM

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  • BigBlueDawg12 said...

    OK, "Bear" with me here for a few ticks Bearcatz... Timmons...is a 4 star..90 rating recruit by Rivals...Fant...a 2 star 78 rating. Yeah..Fant has a FSU offer..but past that Ole Miss, and UK, its Middle Tenn St, WKU, ect. Timmons has Arkansas, Uk, Purdue, illinois...with Ohio St, Bama, USC..both of em..getting ready to pop. And since this is 247 lets go by 247 ratings...Timmons..90/Fant 78. Timmons is 5'11..closer to 6'0 185..Fant..5'10, clsoer to 5'9..and 160...Timmons is much faster than Fant too. Timmons listed at 4.40/Fant at 4.48..I have personally watched Timmons run a 4.36 and have heard reports of 4.31.
    And as far as the competition they play..Atlanta is not the hotbed of Georgia..that would go to southern Ga, the Lagranges, Valdostas, ect ect. Timmons plays in 5A football..vs the Bowling Greens, Warren Centrals, Hardin teams..last year Timmons rushed for 1,382 yards..at 22.3 yards per carry with 20 td totes..he also caught 38 passes..for 1,100 yards and 18 Tds..thats 28.9 yards per grab and nearly 50% (47%?) of hs grabs went for scores. Thats 100 touches for 2,482 yards and 38 Td's ..thats 24.8 yards per touch..scoring on 38% of those touches. That was Timmons junior year. Hes only getting bigger, faster, stronger as he matures into a man...I see Timmon ending up 6'0/6'1 195/200 and being one of those rare sub 4.3 40 guys with a 40" plus vertical. And hes tough to boot. Timmons is the 2 time regining 100m dash champ in state..and held fastest time last year regarless of class(A-6A)
    the only dangerous thing about this post is guys trying to turn it into Fant vs Timmons...I want Both ....Timmons can come in immeadiately and bring help to Uk's offense as both a reciever and a runner..and returner too. I just dont see many 160lb corners playing in the SEC. or 170 there are a couple..but 99% of guys 160-170 cant tackle a SEC RB like Lattimore, Trent Richardson, ect..and if they have to..they wont be long for the injury list.Fant can help us..just not as soon..he'll need to add some weight..get to 175..180..so his body can hold up. Timmons is SEC ready right now. That siad..I do not or do not claim to know it all..Im just going by stats..and my own personal views of Ryan Timmons..Ive never watched Fant beyond his highlight reel. Kid could be a Beast..im just not holding my breath untill he adds weight and strength.

    I understand you want both as do I.

    According to the link dated yesterday Fant now has offers from Florida and Ohio State in addition to Ole Miss, UK, and Florida State.

    Those offers make Fant a high level national recruit not a regional recruit. Maybe big offers soon pop for Timmons.

    I hope that they do but until than It is my opinion that Timmons ranking on 247 has yet to be justified or validated by offers where as Fant and Khalid Thomas' 247 rankings seem to be severely lagging their offers.

    Fant picks up Kentucky offer, now mulling six schools

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    goldenbearcatz

  • BigBlueDawg12 said...

    Oh, I want Yancey really really bad..I want Fant too..bad..but Jon Cook just went to thier smae camp and was graded best player at the camp...over all positions!! And Cook was just in a post not long ago saying he wants to hear more from UK...??? Tell me you wouldnt rather get a kid that wants to be here over one that comes just because its the best fit..best offer..because its the best program to offer him AND his best buddy...sounds like Jonathan Cook really wants to play at UK..but weve backed off for some odd..VERY ODD..reason..you cant coach 6'1 190 at CB. Mabye Fant had a bad day..but Cook was stellar according to the camps offical post/article. Yancey graded out very well..Fant played well in spots, but had trouble holding up against larger wideouts...and had some focus/drops issues when getting reps at WR. Thats just 1 camp though, I still want Fant...I'll take any kid with a Fla ST offer...something just tells me Fant will lure Yancey away from UK..to FSU or Ole Miss...hope Im wrong.

    Not to cast aspersions on any particular kid but recruiting doesn't happen in a vacuum. Kids have personalities and life outside football. If we back off a kid it could be for myriad reasons, good reasons to the staff but I'm betting you may never know why. Just let them do their jobs.

    IamRV

  • MinterWonderlnd said...

    Don't forget about Cory Cooper. John Wall was apparently hosting him last weekend and presented him with a #11 UK football jersey that Cory and his family loved.

    cheersnice post. Good to see some positive vibes.

    This post was edited by hoptownukfan on 7/25/2012 at 9:55 AM

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  • The articles about Timmons all focus on Arkansas. Is he an arkansas lean?

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  • Hopkins and Canady won't see an offer. They have a preferred spot if they want it, but that's it. UK's recruiting is on a whole different level this year. We will be selective from here on out.

    I love Devon Edwards' game and I share a last name with him. Darren Dowdell, same thing, great player, great hands. Just can't see UK taking 2 TE's this year with so much talent at need positions left on the board. I think we see UK take 1 TE this year and 2 TE's next year.

    Moody, maybe he is interested in UK, but the mutual interest is not there. Not sure who's decision that was.

    Chocolate would like a UK offer, yes, but I doubt he gets it. UK takes Boaz Joseph and Mackensie Alexander and runs. I'll be anxious to see if Blake McClain holds a spot if Boaz and Kwonsie commit. Also, at 5'9, he better be able to run a 4.3. He sure as heck does not have the height to lock down SEC WR's.

    Minter, I had not heard that about John and Corey Cooper, thanks for sharing! And I love the optimism!

    Johnathon Howard may be more of an option now that Clemson has taken a few WR's lately. They still hold the top spot, IF they want him.

    Johnathon Cook - just because a player wants to hear more from a school, does not mean he is "begging" for an offer or would have them as his leader. He's an SEC kid and a great player, but UK is keeping their distance for whatever reason and I am fine with that.

    Yancey, and likely Fant, will be Wildcats by the end of the month IMO.

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  • hoptownukfan said...

    The articles about Timmons all focus on Arkansas. Is he an arkansas lean?

    He's been quiet and tough to get a hold of. I'd say it's 50/50. It becomes a whole new ball game if Ohio State offers. I doubt they do at this point though.

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  • BigBlueDawg12 said...

    Ill keep this short just for you Hogan!! Moody, in a post, said after his trip to Uk campus..loved it..I could definitly see myself wearing Blue! Its no secret Moody/D.Wilson are close friends and want to attend same college..sorry about the longer posts but I like to do more than write a sentence or three and call it a post..thats more of a tweet if you ask me..and me..being a writer/aspiring author..do tend to get a tad windy. I do apologize..but I will never apologize for being enthusiastic about Uk football...I bleed blue..no questions..we could do with some more optimism..negative is so boring and it dosent help one bit, IMHO!! Go Cats!!

    It's not the length of your posts, it is how they are formatted.

    When you read a lot in such a small space, things begin to mix and jumble. Break it up a bit and you will be golden.

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  • WildcatDawg22 said...

    Yancey, and likely Fant, will be Wildcats by the end of the month IMO.

    This would be great. I like the momentum building up on both of these guys leading up to their visit, and that they both want to make a decision sooner rather than later.

    Still would like an update on Bubba Tandy to know 1. if he/staff plan to re-up the commitment and 2. what position he will play as I have heard both WR and S.

    Does Boaz have a timetable on his decision at all yet?

    stlwildcat

  • WildcatDawg22 said...

    Hopkins and Canady won't see an offer. They have a preferred spot if they want it, but that's it. UK's recruiting is on a whole different level this year. We will be selective from here on out.

    I love Devon Edwards' game and I share a last name with him. Darren Dowdell, same thing, great player, great hands. Just can't see UK taking 2 TE's this year with so much talent at need positions left on the board. I think we see UK take 1 TE this year and 2 TE's next year.

    Moody, maybe he is interested in UK, but the mutual interest is not there. Not sure who's decision that was.

    Chocolate would like a UK offer, yes, but I doubt he gets it. UK takes Boaz Joseph and Mackensie Alexander and runs. I'll be anxious to see if Blake McClain holds a spot if Boaz and Kwonsie commit. Also, at 5'9, he better be able to run a 4.3. He sure as heck does not have the height to lock down SEC WR's.

    Minter, I had not heard that about John and Corey Cooper, thanks for sharing! And I love the optimism!

    Johnathon Howard may be more of an option now that Clemson has taken a few WR's lately. They still hold the top spot, IF they want him.

    Johnathon Cook - just because a player wants to hear more from a school, does not mean he is "begging" for an offer or would have them as his leader. He's an SEC kid and a great player, but UK is keeping their distance for whatever reason and I am fine with that.

    Yancey, and likely Fant, will be Wildcats by the end of the month IMO.

    Is UK still actively recruiting Edwards and Dowdell? I haven't heard anything about TE recruiting in a while.

    I don't see why the staff wouldn't take McClain, Boaz, and MacKensie if they all wanted to come. Blake could possibly play safety as well.

    This post was edited by YouMeAndDupree on 7/25/2012 at 8:37 PM

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  • YouMeAndDupree said...

    Is UK still actively recruiting Edwards and Dowdell? I haven't heard anything about TE recruiting in a while.

    I don't see why the staff wouldn't take McClain, Boaz, and MacKensie if they all wanted to come. Blake could possibly play safety as well.

    WIth us recruiting MacKenro Alexander, Austin Logan, Chequan Burkett, and others, I'm more interested to see how the safety situation plays out with Jalen Battle unless he is being recruited for another position.

    It becomes a numbers game.

    I haven't heard anything about Dowdell or Edwards recently. Kind of odd that Dowdell was so close to a commitment and then he kind of backed off of that and now has no timetable.

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  • WildcatDawg22 said...

    It becomes a numbers game.

    I haven't heard anything about Dowdell or Edwards recently. Kind of odd that Dowdell was so close to a commitment and then he kind of backed off of that and now has no timetable.

    After looking at the TE depth chart I think UK really needs to take at least 1 TE in this class. When this class makes it to campus all the TE's except Sheilds will be SR's. If not they are gonna have to depend on a couple of true freshmen TE's to come in ready to play two years from now.

    jmalone7us

  • Oh, I agree. I think we need to take a TE.

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  • BigBlueDawg12 said...

    Ill keep this short just for you Hogan!! Moody, in a post, said after his trip to Uk campus..loved it..I could definitly see myself wearing Blue! Its no secret Moody/D.Wilson are close friends and want to attend same college..sorry about the longer posts but I like to do more than write a sentence or three and call it a post..thats more of a tweet if you ask me..and me..being a writer/aspiring author..do tend to get a tad windy. I do apologize..but I will never apologize for being enthusiastic about Uk football...I bleed blue..no questions..we could do with some more optimism..negative is so boring and it dosent help one bit, IMHO!! Go Cats!!

    not saying anything about your enthusiasm, that I share as well and will always look on the bright side of our football team. I want them to succeed, but yeah, just keep them kinda short and sweet. That's really about it

    Hogan_Ryan