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How do all the negative FB comments effect recruiting?

  • I have been reading all the vitriol comments in every single football thread and I started to wonder how it could possibly affect recruiting. I know most of us are trying to motivate UK’s administration. We all want to see a MUCH bigger commitment to the FB program but a fan base that eats its own cannot be good for recruiting.

    NashvilleCat197

  • I think posts that express great disappointment and intolerance of poor play do not hurt recruiting and in fact may help it. It demonstrates fans here are unaccepting of mediocrity. OTOH apathy would turn me off if I were a recruit.

    Posts that attack the coaching staff and advocate coaching changes however are potentially harmful IMO. However people should not put too much importance on internet posts. All programs have complainers and no fan base is accepting of subpar performance.

    This post was edited by Deeeefense on 9/27/2011 at 9:24 AM

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    Deeeefense

  • I don't think anyone can say it doesn't have some affect on recruiting, but I don't think it's going to be something that convinces a potential recruit to commit or not to commit. I tend to believe if a recruit is basing his decision on a fan base he's looking at how that fan base fills its stadium and travels instead of keeping up with the pulse of a few message boards (which can change like the weather).

    KSt

  • The recruits visit this site. It can't help.

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    alphacat93

  • It can't hurt any worse than what they are seeing every Saturday.

    Kyle4uk244

  • alphacat93 said...

    The recruits visit this site. It can't help.

    Actually we have recieved two of our higher rated commitments this week. Both said they love the atmosphere and the fan intensity. BBN is doing it's job. Anyone who says the BBN has a negative impact on recruiting is really misguided.

    usa1000

  • Kyle4uk244 said...

    It can't hurt any worse than what they are seeing every Saturday.

    Exactly. Nothing drives a recruit away faster than poor play on the field.

    Every school that lost last week (and some that won, see Auburn), has message boards that are full of frustrated fans.

    Does it help? It could if it forces changes that improve play on the field.

    Does it hurt? Not any more than it does anywhere else.

    olblue

  • I am sick and tired of the fans being blamed for a poor product!!! They are supporting the team and buying tickets. We have a piss poor product on the field with piss poor support from the UKAA- the fans deserve much more! The fans continue to be used by the UKAA.

    boz

  • usa1000 said...

    Actually we have recieved two of our higher rated commitments this week. Both said they love the atmosphere and the fan intensity. BBN is doing it's job. Anyone who says the BBN has a negative impact on recruiting is really misguided.

    Ok but, we are talking the UK fan base in this thread. It stands to reason that if the basketball fan base has a strong positive impact then the opposite can be true also. I hope that all the virtiol here does not make it out to recruits but you know this stuff gets read by people that are not UK fans. If I were recruiting against UK I would certainly bring it up. Hopefully it does not have an impact. If the fans here would try to express their angst in possibly a different way it could possibly be helpful to the team. Afterall what does it accomplish to be negative.

    NashvilleCat197

  • I believe that it may actually help from one standpoint. Recruits that are affected by some of the immaturity of posters on web sites say up front they have no interest which means we don't have to offer and sit and wait on them. Most recruits understand that winning and losing is part of football and only one team wins each game played. They also understand that rabid fans will never take losing with out venting their frustrations somewhere. The kids want playing time and good facilities and will go where they can get these and be comfortable with the coaches and players they are going to spend 4-5 years of their lives with. We want players who look at the facilities and the atmosphere of college life and team play, and those who follow boards and decide they don't want to come because of a handful of disgruntled fans are probably not a good fit because they probably tend to have negative personalities which only brings future problems to the team. That being said it still is quite bothersome to read some posts and how brutal people can be. I only hope most are treated the way they treat others.

    Suchy500

  • alphacat93 said...

    The recruits visit this site. It can't help.

    Didn't hurt us this weekend in landing a couple. . . High school kids do not think the same way we do. . . They don't base their decisions on the same things we would. . .

    This post was edited by BG631 on 9/27/2011 at 2:10 PM

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  • Kids that are being recruited don't generally visit the fan boards. They are to busy talking to coaches, taking visits, practice of their own and oh yea, studies to graduate from high school. Their social life is already cut short with the commitment it takes being recruited and finding the right fit. There is no way they spend what little bit of time they do have left surfing fan boards.

    1003blue

  • boz said...

    I am sick and tired of the fans being blamed for a poor product!!! They are supporting the team and buying tickets. We have a piss poor product on the field with piss poor support from the UKAA- the fans deserve much more! The fans continue to be used by the UKAA.

    ^^^THIS^^^

    Great post boz!

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    JawJacker

  • It depends on the individual we are recruiting. You know the old saying of beauty is in the eye of the beholder?

    recruit A may view it as a passionate fanbase who wants to see the program go to the next level.

    recruit B may vie it as a crazy fanbase who just gripes and complains.

    Ultimately it's up to the coaches to sell the kids on the program, their vision, the school, education, the fans, etc...

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    cobbycobb

  • Would a WR recruit like to see that UK has a QB coming in named Towles and a new coach named Leach? For that recruit, I doubt it would hurt but actually help recruiting. The offense run by UK does not help in getting talented WR's.

    Only crazy people, me included, pays attention to what anyone says on here because everyone is an expert.

    Right?coffee

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    mrhotdice

  • You guys are right. Producing posts every week where you call for the heads of the HC and AD can be nothing but good for the program. And, when we question a recruit's worth based on their supposed academic standing or offers, it is also a positive. Yes, the staff has done an outstanding job on the recruiting front in the last two weeks, as well as with the class as a whole. But, the negative tenor infecting this board, and others, is not a positive and never will be.

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    alphacat93

  • I agree that the fans being disgruntled is never helpful but it does show that they care and pay attention. It is just ridiculous to expect the fans to be anything besides upset and angry in the direction of the program at this point. It is clearly premature to be talking about replacing the coach so early in his tenure but his decisions, comments and results are the driving force behind this mess not the fans.

    What is new and just reprehensible is the attacks and criticism of new commitments. I have never seen this before especially with kids who have multiple BCS offers and who are skilled and needed. That activity and level of negativity is most likely to negatively effect recruiting. Whining about the games and calls probably happens most everywhere.

    zcats

  • alphacat93 said...

    the negative tenor infecting this board, and others, is not a positive and never will be.

    are you suggesting we shut it down?

    do you not understand that this goes on everywhere?

    olblue

  • alphacat93 said...

    You guys are right. Producing posts every week where you call for the heads of the HC and AD can be nothing but good for the program. And, when we question a recruit's worth based on their supposed academic standing or offers, it is also a positive. Yes, the staff has done an outstanding job on the recruiting front in the last two weeks, as well as with the class as a whole. But, the negative tenor infecting this board, and others, is not a positive and never will be.

    Have you ever been to another schools message boards?? They are all the same. . .

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  • olblue said...

    are you suggesting we shut it down?

    do you not understand that this goes on everywhere?

    There's a difference between negativity for negativity's sake and constructive criticism. There is far too much negativity and too little constructive discussion, IMO.

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  • alphacat93 said...

    There's a difference between negativity for negativity's sake and constructive criticism. There is far too much negativity and too little constructive discussion, IMO.

    Exactly, I even saw a thread complaining abut the way the mascot was leading cheers for crying out loud. If you have a criticism then make it intelligently.

    NashvilleCat197

  • No recruit worth his own salt is going to decide whether to go to UK or not based on the fans being pissed and voicing their thoughts on an internet message board after bad performances.

    In fact, while they would likely respond to the question in a formal interview by Matt or Jeff with something along the lines of "I like that the fans are trying to hold the program to a higher standard," if they were asked "off the record" what they think about the fans being pissed and voicing it on the boards, they would likely respond more along the lines of "I don't blame them. I'd be pissed too if I was a fan, after watching how they've played lately."

    mjdotson

  • mjdotson said...

    No recruit worth his own salt is going to decide whether to go to UK or not based on the fans being pissed and voicing their thoughts on an internet message board after bad performances.

    In fact, while they would likely respond to the question in a formal interview by Matt or Jeff with something along the lines of "I like that the fans are trying to hold the program to a higher standard," if they were asked "off the record" what they think about the fans being pissed and voicing it on the boards, they would likely respond more along the lines of "I don't blame them. I'd be pissed too if I was a fan, after watching how they've played lately."

    Very well said mj. I agree 100%

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    JawJacker

  • mjdotson said...

    No recruit worth his own salt is going to decide whether to go to UK or not based on the fans being pissed and voicing their thoughts on an internet message board after bad performances.

    In fact, while they would likely respond to the question in a formal interview by Matt or Jeff with something along the lines of "I like that the fans are trying to hold the program to a higher standard," if they were asked "off the record" what they think about the fans being pissed and voicing it on the boards, they would likely respond more along the lines of "I don't blame them. I'd be pissed too if I was a fan, after watching how they've played lately."

    mj, I did not mean to imply that I think a recruit would base their commitment to a program based on negative comments from the fanbase. I understand those comments will be made and that other programs, especially traditional powers, have fanbases that do it as well.

    My only point was to say that the negativity for negativity's sake is pointless and ridiculous. Coming on the boards as soon as UK loses to say fire Joker and fire Barnhart makes little sense to me. But, that's just me. Also, while I see the the validity in questioning the offers a prospect may have, writing that player off as a result is short-sighted. As UK fans, we've seen far more of those players pan out than not. Again, just my opinion.

    Obviously, the staff is doing quite well of late on the recruiting trail despite the results on the field and the vitriol they read on the message boards currently. You can do nothing but commend Joker and Co. for that.

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    alphacat93

  • Lets all be very, very quiet and maybe nobody will notice, that we have the worst Offense since Bill Curry.
    Really quiet, shhh!whistling

    MatanzasCat