The House of Blue

Wow. I can understand if there is an article, but that trash is getting old quick. So next time any of us hear something should we post who said it, along with date and grid coordinates as well?

Wow, we lost a kid to his dream school. Get over it. Pretending like we never compete for in state kids is ridiculous. We get the majority of of the quality in state kids available. Yes many of the big name kids go elsewhere but year in and year out we are dominating the state. Chapman, Towles, Hyde, Peters, and Couch just to name a few. The recruiting is still better and is still improving. Bivin is gone, move on focus on other kids we can get. Ths thread is really a little absurd. We lost an in-state kid in March to his dream school. Hell, fire Joke.

Notre Dame is the only team I would root against if they were playing Tennessee.

+ Louisville

If Louisville played Notre Dame . . .

Pull for a scoreless tie I suppose.

Thanks for all your support.

THANK YOU!!!!!!!! I am actually a really good friend of Raymond Lamar Dawson. He spent the night at my house idk how many times and we graduated together last year. One of the best guys I know to date, very humble of everything because no one on here actually knows what this kid has gone through. I wasn't a member when most people talked trash about him but boy did it anger me. He told me a couple weeks ago he plans on going pro either after this season or next. He's competing for a national championship this upcoming year. How can people still blame him? He wanted nothing more than to get out of the state and give himself the best chance to be able to provide for his family and the people who helped him and gave him a chance.

I have no doubt in ideal circumstances Joker could do well, like at GA or T A&M... If Joker were to ever coach in a state or at a school that produced enough good talent I know he could, but UK will never do much if we can't land a those "on the fence" kids at alittle higher rate. I will always support UK football and Joker as long as he's here but something has to change, who-ever said "joker always get the majority of the instate talent" isn't telling the 100% truth. He does get quality players but this year is a perfect example, there are 4 or 5 that could choose any school they wanted and how many are well really going to get? From the way it's looking it's Timmons or nothing... I really hope Joker can land that kid.

As far as Bivin I still think Joker had enough going his way that we could have got the kid, but we didn't. Who ever said "get over it", is right. It's done now, it just sucks ____ to know such a talented kid got away in a year when all the other most talented instate kids have also seemed to get away. If we can't get the top kids Joker has to find away to get "good enough" prospects, recruits that are obvious athletes, not long shots... That doesn't mean we have to go out and get another 5 star but every year we have to get enough good talent wheather it be under rated 2's, 3's or 4 stars to compete. Not all 2 stars have "it" and not all 4-5 stars have "it" but 8 out of 10 times the system works out. Every year a coach has to land enough quality talent or they stand no chance. As of right now we are in dier need of OT's, Big ILB's, DT's. Of coarse those are the hardest spots to get good enough talent but for us to win Joker must find away when he misses on the Bivin's to land the Burton's (that went to Ole Miss, the OT Juco kid) when the time comes... Teams like Ark have shown you don't have to get a top 10 class to compete in the SEC, heck I know it's been said a ton but Vandy has also shown what i'm talking about. Bobby Johnson doesn't get enough credit, he never out recruited us by the rankings but he did get enough at the right spots that James Franklin (A fantastic coach, recruiter and great motivator) now has them where they can pull the upset on almost anyone.

Joker has to keep tabs on the depth chart. We should never be down to such low mature O-line, DT, ILB numbers that a freshman will have to play. I know it happens but it is not fair at all to expect to win yet placing a OT (like the myrtle beach kid, Jones) out there (if someone needs a rest or if someone goes down to a injury) that needs so much strength and upper body mass . Jones obviously is a kid with potential but he's not a Miller type O-line prospect at this point. Miller was a much stronger and even more athletic, Miller was under-rated. Miller was alot closer to being ready same as the Watson kid from GA...

The Watson kid is another perfect example of the type of player we must get when we miss on the Hunter Bivin's. Watson is a kid that may be able to provide quality snaps this year, because he has all the tools although he still needs to develop he has all the attributes that could allow him to play as a true freshman. Joker has had so much attrition and Brooks recruited so bad in his final years that Joker has been in the hole from day 1. Not finding enough SEC players in 08, 09 and 10 (eventhough 10 was pretty good, there were only 1 O-lineman, that can't happen) eventhough we were coming off some pretty strong seasons still has me upset. I really don't know how that happened. It takes O/D lineman to play and win in the SEC, period...

God dude you are writing novels. I'm sure you got some good stuff but damn.

The frustrating thing is that this time last year and plenty since then, most everyone "in the know" was saying that Bivin was UK's to lose and that he was all but projected to choose UK. It is VERY frustrating that we FINALLY have a year where there are a legitimate 4 or 5 players who will have tons of BCS offers, many of which will be from the traditional "big boys", yet we stand a very good chance of walking away with zero commitments from them. That cannot happen at a place like UK where we are in the SEC and rarely have lbig time SEC-caliber players come up through the high school ranks.

That said, if we can get kids of similar caliber from somewhere else in this class, that is fine. Frankly, it doesn't matter if the player is from KY or North Dakota if they are of comparable talent. Nonetheless, we simply have to get better at finding a way to have a better shot at the few elite level kids who come out of KY. I know we got Towles and a couple of other really good players in this last class, but when we are already behind the proverbial 8 ball in recruiting in the SEC, we simply MUST have a coach who can sell the idea and vision of doing something special at UK to the in-state talent instead of watching most of them choose to go elsewhere. Winning obviously cures all, but there is a LOT more to successful recruiting than just throwing out good W/L records and bowl wins.

Great post

Although that may be true in many instances, I don't think it ended up being true with Dawson and I don't expect it to be true with Bivin.