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MoC said...
Taking chances gets you Fran Curci and Hal Mumme. Being conservative gets you Bill Curry.
Eventually you have to acknowledge the fact that there is a larger problem with UK Football than just a simple matter of a coach or an athletic department. If it was just about writing a check or "hiring the right guy' we wouldn't be having this discussion right now. Frankly, I'm starting to suspect that UK doesn't belong in the SEC not because it can't compete but because the obstacles to success are so great, so ingrained and so wide ranging that either a. you need to be happy with a 7 win season and a minor bowl game in the BEST of seasons or b. find a new outlet for your Saturday's in the Fall.
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MoC said...
Taking chances gets you Fran Curci and Hal Mumme. Being conservative gets you Bill Curry.
Eventually you have to acknowledge the fact that there is a larger problem with UK Football than just a simple matter of a coach or an athletic department. If it was just about writing a check or "hiring the right guy' we wouldn't be having this discussion right now. Frankly, I'm starting to suspect that UK doesn't belong in the SEC not because it can't compete but because the obstacles to success are so great, so ingrained and so wide ranging that either a. you need to be happy with a 7 win season and a minor bowl game in the BEST of seasons or b. find a new outlet for your Saturday's in the Fall.
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hoptownukfan said...
This is the king of hindsight posts.
Hal mumme wasn't taking a chance. Halymme was a dumb ass hire Thatade no sense and was laughed at nationally.
Bill curry, at the time was viewed as a HOME RUN hire. Didn't turn out that way but it was viewed favorably.
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What mess are you speaking of? They're just coming out of the best sustained 5-6 years in the last 50-60 years of the program. They had a bad year. One. Give this staff an opportunity to bounce back, and if they fail, then we'll talk about other coaches.
All I'm telling you is there are qualified men of character and dignity coaching this game from coast to coast at many levels. There are PLENTY of people out there who can coach this game and do it the right way without disgracing the university. To suggest that there aren't, and that you have to turn to a scumbag of a human being like Petrino is embarrassing IMHO.
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Catmando said...
Oh Jeff do I hope you are right, and I'd be all for them if so! It just seems to me like every time the UK job comes open, we have a very hard time filling it, and end up settling in one way or another. If we are going to settle, I hope we at least settle for someone that can win, and not put us on probation. Those are the 2 biggest priorities to me. And for the record, I am still hopeful that Joker turns it around this year and this conversation becomes a mute point. I just don't see it happening.
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Catmando said...
^Not hiring Scnelly was 2nd biggest mistake UK ever made, after letting Bear get away, I agree, but you are making an issue out of a non issue. The fact that Petrino coached at UL has absolutely no bearing on why anyone would want, or not want him to coach our team. You are making a meritless assumption here.
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rob65 said...
I agree, and the rest of the fanbase has settled for sub-par football for nearly six decades, just waiting for the next coming of Bear Bryant.
You can slam me or whomever you want, I have no problem with that. The fact is that you can't deny that we still can't see the light at the end of the tunnel and never will as long as programs like Vanderbilt and Mississippi State are recruiting over us.
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rob65 said...
I agree, and the rest of the fanbase has settled for sub-par football for nearly six decades, just waiting for the next coming of Bear Bryant.
You can slam me or whomever you want, I have no problem with that. The fact is that you can't deny that we still can't see the light at the end of the tunnel and never will as long as programs like Vanderbilt and Mississippi State are recruiting over us.
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Catmando said...
Oh Jeff do I hope you are right, and I'd be all for them if so! It just seems to me like every time the UK job comes open, we have a very hard time filling it, and end up settling in one way or another. If we are going to settle, I hope we at least settle for someone that can win, and not put us on probation. Those are the 2 biggest priorities to me. And for the record, I am still hopeful that Joker turns it around this year and this conversation becomes a mute point. I just don't see it happening.
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Jeff Drummond said...
I don't know if that's necessarily true. Mitch had one of the biggest names in the game ready to sign on before Brooks, and Brooks turned out to be a very solid hire. Then he already knew he wanted Joker after that, so it's not like they had a search and got turned down by a bunch of guys.
It's an SEC gig. If and when UK ever needs another coach, they're not going to have any problem at all finding somebody to take it.
Personally, I think people need to cross their fingers and hope that Joker gets things turned around. He could be the long-term answer... IF he can survive this next season coming up.
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Beavis13 said...
I have a really hard time believing this is anything other than an urban legend. Future HOFer Bill Parcells wanted the job that relative nobodies Jim Donnan, Mike Kruczek and David Cutcliffe turned down? Another coaching giant, Doug Williams, interviewed, too.
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mjdotson said...
I don't doubt that people involved in the search, or who are close to people who were, want to think that Bill FREAKIN' Parcels was close to being the next coach at UK. What I do doubt, and very strongly at that, is that it was a REALISTIC possibility. I'm sure he said all of the right things, but Parcels was never going to be the next coach at UK when he was still the most sought after man In the NFL. It's like all of the UT fans who swear they were THIS CLOSE to getting Gruden or Dungy, but had to settle for Dooley instead.
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