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Interesting comment by Mitch Barnhart on fundraising

  • bug said...

    Hagan killed the Louisville link for uk by not hiring Schnelly when he almost begged for the job. one of the reasons Howard was not hired by UK (and this is truly unforgettable and unforgiveable) is that Howard wanted to emphasize the city of Louisville and even suggested that he may live there to mine the donors available to UK at that time. The Lex. big wigs and sports adm. were afraid Louisville support would undermine the Lex. big wigs' control over UK sports. Truly SAD!! However, i know Dennis Emery will do a fantastic job in his role as money maker for UK. Having known him since 1989, he is truly a great person and one of the best i have ever been associated with insports. Good luck Coach Emery.

    I didn't know that. I'd always heard Schnelly wanted too much control of the program, and the admin was unwilling to give it to him. I'd be very interested to know more of the specifics.

    Catmando

  • hoptownukfan said...

    What you just described is exactly what barnhart has done over the last 10 years. He's improved what players use everyday.

    Oh really when did they expand and improve the player's lounge or build the multipurpose recruiting room, I must have missed that. I know they've redone the locker rooms and and field turf at Nutter but there hasn't been much in the way of major upgrades since C.M. Newton's tenure IMO.

    This post was edited by Deeeefense on 9/7/2012 at 6:52 PM

    "Ignorance is constricted awareness" - Deepak Chopra

    Deeeefense

  • A whole lot of revisionist history going on in this thread.

    I honestly don't know where to begin. You can probably start with the fact that UK has ranked at the bottom of fundraising in the SEC going back at least 25 years. Or you can start with the fact that the two single largest donations in UK Athletics history didn't come until the last 7 years. Or you can ask yourself what was the last major football facility not paid for by a bond issuance.

    At some point folks you're going to have to acknowledge it's more about Kentucky, the culture and politics of the school, Lexington and the state itself, than any one variable. The constants are what matter.

    MoC

  • MoC said...

    At some point folks you're going to have to acknowledge it's more about Kentucky, the culture and politics of the school, Lexington and the state itself, than any one variable. The constants are what matter.

    I'm tending to agree. I think many in KY like UK being the big fish in the smaller basketball pond & to heck with the big pond.

    vhcat1970

  • I guess everything at UK is just great. MB is the best AD in the country. We have the best fund raising. We have the best facilities and the best football program. I think a former tennis coach is just the guy to raise money for football. Great idea.

    zcats

  • zcats said...

    I guess everything at UK is just great. MB is the best AD in the country. We have the best fund raising. We have the best facilities and the best football program. I think a former tennis coach is just the guy to raise money for football. Great idea.

    Obviously you feel similar to how I do at this point. If you want people to listen though probably not best to be a smart ass about it. But it basically comes down to the fact that if we don't have a winning football program everything isn't alright. We absolutely HAVE to get the pieces in place to have a winner. If not then nothing is good. If your football program sucks everything sucks.

    tWhit

  • hoptownukfan said...

    Fundraising overall is amazingly better. Louisville or no Louisville uk is much better off than if they had never hired Barnhart. Brooks for all his good traits allowed his loyalty to get the best of him. Look to the comments of Steve brown for all the perspective you need into the attitude of brooks and "his guys" when he left.

    Where do you get your information? Dead ass wrong!

    With the exception of some of the fundraising movements Coach Cal has made, UK fundraising is abysmal. It is like a well that has dried up.

    Mitch Barnhart has personally brought in NOTHING from a fundraising perspective.

    5368ppi ●

  • These two guys remind me of disgruntled Cat fans.

    This post was edited by JawJacker on 9/8/2012 at 2:48 PM

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  • MoC said...

    A whole lot of revisionist history going on in this thread.

    I honestly don't know where to begin. You can probably start with the fact that UK has ranked at the bottom of fundraising in the SEC going back at least 25 years. Or you can start with the fact that the two single largest donations in UK Athletics history didn't come until the last 7 years. Or you can ask yourself what was the last major football facility not paid for by a bond issuance.

    At some point folks you're going to have to acknowledge it's more about Kentucky, the culture and politics of the school, Lexington and the state itself, than any one variable. The constants are what matter.

    Neither Nutter Field House nor Nutter Training Center were paid for with bonds. Private money led by the incredible fundraising efforts by Jerry Claiburn.

    MinterWonderlnd

  • 5368ppi said...

    Where do you get your information? Dead ass wrong!

    With the exception of some of the fundraising movements Coach Cal has made, UK fundraising is abysmal. It is like a well that has dried up.

    Mitch Barnhart has personally brought in NOTHING from a fundraising perspective.

    Moron posts like this don't deserve a response. But I'll do it anyway. Ever heard of the kfund? Have you looked at howard capital improvements have been made to our football facilities since mitch got to uk. Last time I'll list them. Here goes.

    1. New ribbon boards and jumbo trons and sound system.
    2. New practice and game day lockers.
    3. New practice fields.
    4. Completely renovated nutter indoor facility.
    5. Completely renovated nutter football complex including new players lounge, new meeting rooms and new av/video equipment

    We need a recruiting room and a bit of a face lift to Cws that includes club level seating, new press box and new sky boxes.

    To say Barnhart has done nothing for fundraising at uk shows how miserably uninformed you are. Fundraising didn't exist for the most part before Barnhart got to Lexington!

    All of the football improvements I just listed involved NO government funds.

    hoptownukfan

  • hoptownukfan said...

    Moron posts like this don't deserve a response. But I'll do it anyway. Ever heard of the kfund? Have you looked at howard capital improvements have been made to our football facilities since mitch got to uk. Last time I'll list them. Here goes.

    1. New ribbon boards and jumbo trons and sound system. 2. New practice and game day lockers. 3. New practice fields. 4. Completely renovated nutter indoor facility. 5. Completely renovated nutter football complex including new players lounge, new meeting rooms and new av/video equipment

    We need a recruiting room and a bit of a face lift to Cws that includes club level seating, new press box and new sky boxes.

    To say Barnhart has done nothing for fundraising at uk shows how miserably uninformed you are. Fundraising didn't exist for the most part before Barnhart got to Lexington!

    All of the football improvements I just listed involved NO government funds.

    You are the one miserably informed or maybe your nose is so far up Mitch's ass, you can't see.

    So you are going to give Mitch credit for inventing fundraising at UK? Ever heard of the Blue-White fund? It has been around for years. Mitch just renamed it the "K-Fund".

    I consider the K-Fund a tax.....not a fundraising measure. It is a luxury tax on ticket sales. When I speak of fundraising, I am referring to raising money through relationships with willing, wealthy alums or friends of UK athletics.

    Your statement that "fundraising didn't exist for the most part before Barnhart got to Lexington" is moronic.

    5368ppi ●

  • 5368ppi said...

    You are the one miserably informed or maybe your nose is so far up Mitch's ass, you can't see.

    So you are going to give Mitch credit for inventing fundraising at UK? Ever heard of the Blue-White fund? It has been around for years. Mitch just renamed it the "K-Fund".

    I consider the K-Fund a tax.....not a fundraising measure. It is a luxury tax on ticket sales. When I speak of fundraising, I am referring to raising money through relationships with willing, wealthy alums or friends of UK athletics.

    Your statement that "fundraising didn't exist for the most part before Barnhart got to Lexington" is moronic.

    Actually it isn't. The blue/white fund wasn't close to what the kfund is. Tickets
    Could be passed down for free, 75% of
    The seats in Rupp required no donation and about 90% of seats in Cws required no donation.

    Barnhart orchestrated over 20 million in capital gifts for football over the last 10 years for football and organized the fundraising for multiple Olympic projects along with tr craft center.

    Our entire athletic department has gone from a basketball only athletic department to a
    Capitol 1 cup contender under Barnhart.

    To discount Barnhart shows you have no desire to educate yourself. You want to debate barnhart's success? Bring it on ace.

    This post was edited by hoptownukfan on 9/8/2012 at 11:20 PM

    hoptownukfan

  • At least we are both UK fans. Besides that, we probably do not agree about much else.

    I do not wish to discount Mitch Barnhart. I wish to be fair in properly giving him credit for what he has done, and also note what he hasn't done.

    It is late and time for me to go to bed, so my response is very brief.

    I will say that Mitch had nothing to do with getting Joe Craft to put up that money for the center. You carefully say he "organized the fundraising". If that would be he graciously accepted the gift, that would be accurate. He had NO role in securing the contribution.

    Good night.....GO CATS!

    5368ppi ●

  • 5368ppi said...

    At least we are both UK fans. Besides that, we probably do not agree about much else.

    I do not wish to discount Mitch Barnhart. I wish to be fair in properly giving him credit for what he has done, and also note what he hasn't done.

    It is late and time for me to go to bed, so my response is very brief.

    I will say that Mitch had nothing to do with getting Joe Craft to put up that money for the center. You carefully say he "organized the fundraising". If that would be he graciously accepted the gift, that would be accurate. He had NO role in securing the contribution.

    Good night.....GO CATS!

    Oh I get it. If somebody gives money the. Barnhart deserves no credit. But he gets blamed when not enough is available.

    Btw, you are wrong re: craft. Joe craft and Barnhart are very close.

    hoptownukfan

  • hoptownukfan said...

    Oh I get it. If somebody gives money the. Barnhart deserves no credit. But he gets blamed when not enough is available.

    Btw, you are wrong re: craft. Joe craft and Barnhart are very close.

    Wrong?

    Who said anything about Joe Craft and Mitch Barnhart being close? You are hallucinating.

    I said Mitch had NO role in securing the monies from Joe Craft to build the state of the art practice facility.

    5368ppi ●

  • 5368ppi said...

    Wrong?

    Who said anything about Joe Craft and Mitch Barnhart being close? You are hallucinating.

    I said Mitch had NO role in securing the monies from Joe Craft to build the state of the art practice facility.

    He absolutely had a ton to do with it and Barnhart also worked hard to secure the rest of the funding. Every bit of thy project happened under barnhart's watch. As I said before. You are no different than the rest of
    The Barnhart bashers. Something bad happens? Mitch's fault. Something good happens? Mitch had nothing to do with it.

    We get it. You dont care about reality. Just your misguided and stupid agenda.

    hoptownukfan

  • hoptownukfan said...

    He absolutely had a ton to do with it and Barnhart also worked hard to secure the rest of the funding. Every bit of thy project happened under barnhart's watch. As I said before. You are no different than the rest of The Barnhart bashers. Something bad happens? Mitch's fault. Something good happens? Mitch had nothing to do with it.

    We get it. You dont care about reality. Just your misguided and stupid agenda.

    Classic narcissism.

    You fit the profile on many levels.

    The shoe fits perfectly!

    5368ppi ●

  • 5368ppi said...

    Classic narcissism.

    You fit the profile on many levels.

    The shoe fits perfectly!

    Pathogocal liar. You fit the profile perfectly.

    hoptownukfan

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