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mrhotdice said...
If any coach in the SEC was given a contract extension based on recruiting effort and not wins the AD would be considered an idiot. Fella's, some act like its Joker or nobody at Kentucky. No one wants Joker fired but how can you build a program on good recruiting that doesn't translate into wins on the field. No one remembesr if you recruit well or if you play hard if you lose. You have to win games agaiinst other SEC teams period
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Catmando said...
As many have said before, go ahead and give him an extension for recruiting purposes, but structure the deal so the buyout is minimal. If he's succesful, he keeps his job and gets paid. If he fails, the buyout will not be an obstacle. Pretty sure Joker would accept those terms given the circumstances.
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Matt May said...
That's not how it works. If Joe Craft wants his name on a basketball practice facility and thus earmarks a substantial gift for that project, that's where it's going. Same thing for the Wildcat Coal Lodge. Now, if a donor comes along and wants to be 'Sammy Smith's Recruiting Room' or 'Jimmy Joseph's Club Suites' then it'll be the exact same as for basketball. Or if Joe Blanton wants to donate significant amount money toward a new baseball stadium then it's darn well going to a baseball stadium. The fact of the matter is the major donors, at this point, want to donate to basketball if they're doing a substantial gift. Until someone steps forward and wants to do the same for football it's going to be difficult for them to fund a major renovation/building of Commonwealth Stadium, etc.
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Matt May said...
That's not how it works. If Joe Craft wants his name on a basketball practice facility and thus earmarks a substantial gift for that project, that's where it's going. Same thing for the Wildcat Coal Lodge. Now, if a donor comes along and wants to be 'Sammy Smith's Recruiting Room' or 'Jimmy Joseph's Club Suites' then it'll be the exact same as for basketball. Or if Joe Blanton wants to donate significant amount money toward a new baseball stadium then it's darn well going to a baseball stadium. The fact of the matter is the major donors, at this point, want to donate to basketball if they're doing a substantial gift. Until someone steps forward and wants to do the same for football it's going to be difficult for them to fund a major renovation/building of Commonwealth Stadium, etc.
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todd said...
In that case I guess we are just screwed for life, because we all know UK FB isn't a popular sport around lex. All the big money guys not wanting to help is a primary reason things are were they are right now... I would be willing to bet most of the fans who do show up at games and buy season tickets aren't even from LEX...
This post was edited by hoptownukfan on 7/1/2012 at 10:01 AM
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hoptownukfan said...
That just isn't true. As things improved under Brooks we secured funds to re-do the practice fields, entire practice facility, get new ribbon boards and new jumbo-trons and a good friend of mine, mr. Wells from east ky put up the 1,000,000 to re-do the commonwealth stadium locker room.
The bottom line is this. NONE of the programs in the sec have done their major expansions with private funds only. In fact they have been done with bonding. Yes some of it is done with boosters finds but most is off of revenue generated with higher ticket prices from expanded stadiums. Those stadium expansions are financed through bonding. Mitch can't bond like the rest of the Sec athletic Directors.
Please learn the facts before you post this stuff.
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hoptownukfan said...
That just isn't true. As things improved under Brooks we secured funds to re-do the practice fields, entire practice facility, get new ribbon boards and new jumbo-trons and a good friend of mine, mr. Wells from east ky put up the 1,000,000 to re-do the commonwealth stadium locker room.
The bottom line is this. NONE of the programs in the sec have done their major expansions with private funds only. In fact they have been done with bonding. Yes some of it is done with boosters finds but most is off of revenue generated with higher ticket prices from expanded stadiums. Those stadium expansions are financed through bonding. Mitch can't bond like the rest of the Sec athletic Directors.
Please learn the facts before you post this stuff.
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Jeff Drummond said...
He and some of the other guys on staff have demonstrated they can get the job done when they had players. The last two years have been a direct result of a gap in recruiting, not Xs and Os. Whoever is coach here in 2013 and 2014 has the potential to coach some really good talent and be very competetive in the SEC.
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mrhotdice said...
Thats so true and I think most everyone wants that coach to be Joker but somewhere the rubber meets the road and you have to win games. If Joker gets 2 more years thats fine by most people but then all the excuses have to stop if the best these new recruits and Joker can do is win 6 games. Expectations builds a program but if 6 wins is the nirvana at UK no coach will ever last.
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Joker?