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dvillepro1 said...
OK YOU DON'T OR DO LIKE JOKER. YOU WANT TO WIN MORE GAMES. WELL SAY WE DO SPEND 9 MILL PLUS PER YR TO HIRE A SUPER STAFF. THEN WHAT ???? THEY STILL HAVE TO RECRUIT THE SAME STATE OF KY THAT HAS VERY LITTLE TALENT EACH YR. THEN YOU MUST TRY TO ASK A 4 OR 5 STAR KID TO LEAVE SAY GA OR FLA TO COME UP HERE AWAY FROM FAMILY AND THE SCHOOL HE WANTED TO PLAY FOR HIS WHOLE LIFE. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN PEOPLE.
KY FANS LIVE A HUGE DREAM WHEN IT COMES TO UK FOOTBALL...
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rob65 said...
I think you miss one thing Matt, there are people on this board who will rip you apart for any single negative thing you say about this program.
That leads to what you call negative topics staying open longer. It really doesn't have to be pumping or dooming, guys like Hop attack everything negative that is said.
It pisses me off to no end and makes me ready to drop my membership.
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jeffries123 said...
Here's my problem with your post op. Brooks was head coach for 4 of those bowl trips. Then you throw in a moral victory against auburn. We are young but who knows how that talent will develop over the years. As bad as brown was as DC I don't remember any defense worse than what we've showed. I'm tired of being the laughing stock of the sec. Tired of moral victories. Tired of excuses. Its always wait until next year or the next. I want a difference maker as our head coach not an average coach. And who the hell are you telling people what to post?
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Matt May said...
Looking at it from outside the fan prism, I think the issue is there are three pretty obvious camps on this issue: 1) Those who are all in and don't want to say or see anything negative; 2) Those who are supportive but also understand there is a place for constructive criticism; 3) Those who seem to never have anything but negative things to say.
My guess is the problem is with group number 3, of which there are some pretty obvious members. It's a small group but one that constantly drives the conversation to places that ruin the ability to have healthy discussions that can, and should, include the type of difference of opinion that drives message boards. The thing about it is those are the people who are always the most vocal, so it's a vicious cycle.
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Catmando said...
Your forgetting to include group #1 as a big part of the problem. Those people who are "all in" are also the one's attacking any of us who post anything critical. More importantly, they accuse people who are actually in group 2, of being in group 3. If they didn't get so upset about people being critical, all of this bickering back and forth would never take place.
If those people who you call “all in” don’t want to hear criticisms, then they should start a UK pep rally board so they can pump one another up. It’s great to be 100% behind your team, but to have blind faith in everything UK football is just naïve. When you play poker, you can go all in with a pair of deuces if you like, and you may occasionally get lucky, but it’s not a very intelligent play.
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Catmando said...
Your forgetting to include group #1 as a big part of the problem. Those people who are "all in" are also the one's attacking any of us who post anything critical. More importantly, they accuse people who are actually in group 2, of being in group 3. If they didn't get so upset about people being critical, all of this bickering back and forth would never take place.
If those people who you call “all in” don’t want to hear criticisms, then they should start a UK pep rally board so they can pump one another up. It’s great to be 100% behind your team, but to have blind faith in everything UK football is just naïve. When you play poker, you can go all in with a pair of deuces if you like, and you may occasionally get lucky, but it’s not a very intelligent play.
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footballcat65 said...
Matt is definitely right, it's group 3 that ruin good threads.They are the ones who start the name calling as soon as someone gives any kind of rebuttal to their post. They can't stand the fact that someone actually supports the team and Joker. And then it escalates to where it's nothing about football just personal attacks. It's childish.
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1003blue said...
Catmando - starting their own pep rally board will not work, because the critics (won't call them haters) find their way there. The critics blow up every forum there is. They feel this need to override any positive anyone has to say or do. I have been on other forums and posted something positive to like the players or the team in general, and I have been blasted. I have been called names and told I am the problem. Really, I am the problem because I support these young men and give them encouragement, support and attend their games. I am no sunshine pumper and I know there are problems, but I also know there is some good as well. I am a realist. But I will always support the team. If anyone wants to call me out for that they can. Doesn't mean I agree with everything. Heck I don't agree with everything at my job or what my bosses say/do, but I don't quit my job because of it and I am not a quitter on this team. They have my full support and whatever happens as the season rolls on or at the end of the season is out of my control. I will deal with it then. But until then, the CATS get my support.
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dvillepro1 said...
OK YOU DON'T OR DO LIKE JOKER. YOU WANT TO WIN MORE GAMES. WELL SAY WE DO SPEND 9 MILL PLUS PER YR TO HIRE A SUPER STAFF. THEN WHAT ???? THEY STILL HAVE TO RECRUIT THE SAME STATE OF KY THAT HAS VERY LITTLE TALENT EACH YR. THEN YOU MUST TRY TO ASK A 4 OR 5 STAR KID TO LEAVE SAY GA OR FLA TO COME UP HERE AWAY FROM FAMILY AND THE SCHOOL HE WANTED TO PLAY FOR HIS WHOLE LIFE. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN PEOPLE.
KY FANS LIVE A HUGE DREAM WHEN IT COMES TO UK FOOTBALL...
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Catmando said...
I never said you personally were the problem. It's the people that attack and accuse anyone who does criticize any facit of the problem.
I have never once come out and attacked anyone on here because I didn't like what they said in regards to UK football. I argue with them, I make my point, but I don't attack.
On the flip side, there are several, who go out of their way to nitpick my post and find something negative about it so they can attack me.
Instead of argiung their perspective, they take their ball and go home, by trying to paint me as some sort of Joker hater, or LOD, or whatever tag they decide to use at the moment.
I'll admit, I'm emotional and very critical at times about the program when I think it is waranted, but that doesn't mean I don't love UK. In fact, I think it may be a testament to the fact that I do actually care about my program enough that mediocrity does not satisfy me.
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dvillepro1 said...
OK YOU DON'T OR DO LIKE JOKER. YOU WANT TO WIN MORE GAMES. WELL SAY WE DO SPEND 9 MILL PLUS PER YR TO HIRE A SUPER STAFF. THEN WHAT ???? THEY STILL HAVE TO RECRUIT THE SAME STATE OF KY THAT HAS VERY LITTLE TALENT EACH YR. THEN YOU MUST TRY TO ASK A 4 OR 5 STAR KID TO LEAVE SAY GA OR FLA TO COME UP HERE AWAY FROM FAMILY AND THE SCHOOL HE WANTED TO PLAY FOR HIS WHOLE LIFE. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN PEOPLE.
KY FANS LIVE A HUGE DREAM WHEN IT COMES TO UK FOOTBALL...
Keep Calm & Stoops On..
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BlueGhost said...
I guess I'm just confused as to what's left to argue about. Is Joker on the hot seat? Sure, whether we want him to be or not. If you are pro or con here it really doesn't even matter.
I also would guarantee that the administration cares a lot more about empty seats at Commonwealth stadium than anyone's opinion here at the Cat's Pause (possibly even the journalists).
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BlueGhost said...
I guess I'm just confused as to what's left to argue about. Is Joker on the hot seat? Sure, whether we want him to be or not. If you are pro or con here it really doesn't even matter.
I also would guarantee that the administration cares a lot more about empty seats at Commonwealth stadium than anyone's opinion here at the Cat's Pause (possibly even the journalists).
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