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Juco WR

  • usa1000 said...

    Higher ceiling than the single season NFL all purpose yards record bc that is what Cobb is shooting for over the next two weeks? We don't have a guy on the team or anyone we are recruiting including Timmons or Quick that are in Cobb's league. Cobb is currently one of the best football players on the planet. Thus a Pro Bowler this year.

    Yes. I believe that Whitlow has that kind of ability. What Cobb is doing this year is special, but he is also on one of the best NFL offenses in the league and he has the benefit of returning both kickoffs & punts. Whitlow would be a slot receiver solely, but can be an excellent one if he fully commits to it. Think of Wes Welker ... former Texas Tech great that is about to set his own NFL record.

    Cats Den

  • hoptownukfan said...

    Jalen isn't nearly as fast as randle. Set the pipe down and come up for air

    Then you are lying to yourself. Whitlow is faster. Cobb is stouter and much harder to tackle. If Cobb was that fast, he would not have been drafted so lowly (late second round).

    Cats Den

  • hoptownukfan said...

    Football speed-randle is amazing. Jalen is a nice athlete hit he isn't randle Cobb

    Its Randall Cobb....I couldnt help it...misspelling his name is like saying "Jon Calipari" or "Bare Bryant"

    JCHS02

  • Other than Dermonti Dawson Cobb may very well be the CATS best player to play in the NFL IMO. Cobb is so versatile that he makes himself very valuable to the Packers. Now I dont know all the great centers to play in the NFL but Dawson has to be 1 of the best if not the best to play in the NFL. Whitlow probably will never be in the same league with Cobb but he could be very valuable to the Cats at another position than QB. But who knows he might just win the job as QB although my $ is on Smith.

    sleepydog

  • BGEnforcer said...

    He looks like a guy the staff would like top keep, but if he did flip I think the staff could land someone to fill his spot withequal or greater talent. But Smith looks to be a good sized guy at around 6'2" and have really good hands, he might not be the stud WR that people really want like Quick, but I would like to see him sign a LOI on NSD for UK.

    I can't confirm this but alot of fans are reporting that Smith was one of the two recruits that the new staff said that they should look elsewhere.

    UKlaw82

  • Cats Den said...

    You're right ... Whitlow is a totally different player than Cobb. He is MUCH faster, but less shifty & no where near as stout. Cobb makes his money by using his head and intangibles on the field. I personally think that Whitlow has a higher ceiling than Cobb, but I don't think he would reach it on athletic ability alone. He must move to WR full time and commit to it in the film room & in his own head (which hasn't been an issue so far).

    You are much higher on Whitlow then I am, I don't think he will ever be the player that COBB is, but saying that, with him playing QB this past year, I believe Brown will give him an even tryout to win the job, and even if he doesn't win the starting job, 3 QBs are a must.

    UKlaw82

  • tWhit said...

    Compare them both as freshman and I don't think its that far off if we're talking about straight line 40 speed.

    Cobb had a great freshman season, Whitlow not so much, and playing a position where in high school he wasn't even the best QB on his team, its great that he did as well as he did. Speedwise, I don't think Cobb was a burner at all but Whitlow isn't either.

    UKlaw82

  • ShoesSwayedBlue said...

    UK needs to sign at least four WRs this class. Preferably five with at least two who can play right away.

    With our other needs, I don't think we have the numbers to get that many WRs.

    UKlaw82

  • UKlaw82 said...

    Cobb had a great freshman season, Whitlow not so much, and playing a position where in high school he wasn't even the best QB on his team, its great that he did as well as he did. Speedwise, I don't think Cobb was a burner at all but Whitlow isn't either.

    I was comparing them in terms of straight line speed only since thats what the post I was qouting was referring to. SPEED. Clearly Cobb wins in every category that goes into making a football player. At this point Whitlow is a QB. If he gets moved to WR then we can talk. But even then he'll be a different kind of player than Cobb because he'll be an outside WR not a slot WR.

    tWhit

  • sleepydog said...

    Other than Dermonti Dawson Cobb may very well be the CATS best player to play in the NFL IMO. Cobb is so versatile that he makes himself very valuable to the Packers. Now I dont know all the great centers to play in the NFL but Dawson has to be 1 of the best if not the best to play in the NFL. Whitlow probably will never be in the same league with Cobb but he could be very valuable to the Cats at another position than QB. But who knows he might just win the job as QB although my $ is on Smith.

    Even if Whitlow doesn't win the QB job that doesn't mean that at some point he won't end up being very important to our success. Injuries happen as we learned this year.

    tWhit

  • tWhit said...

    Even if Whitlow doesn't win the QB job that doesn't mean that at some point he won't end up being very important to our success. Injuries happen as we learned this year.

    True but if he were to end up as the 3rd string QB he wouldnt be happy at that place on this team so I would think he could be very valuable playing some of the ways Cobb did when the QB thing didnt work out and to be honest it was the best thing that could have happened to Cobb.

    sleepydog

  • I hope he's open to something like that but I have my doubts.

    tWhit

  • Have to agree with folks who feel we have to get more WR (and thusly less of TE and possibly the bigger RB) to play in this new system.

    1. Robinson has to move to inside WR (I never liked Joker running him at outside WR spot at 5'8).
    2. Collins is a tweener...can play inside but is possibly big enough to play outside.

    After that...I have no idea what we have at WR.
    3. I'd put Legree at #3...his hands look good in short spurts but I don't know about his speed and shiftiness.
    4. Sweat is an academic issue...but on the field his running strength and speed is as close to Cobb as we'll have for a while. But his hands look poor to me and his route running may be as bad..
    5. The rest are very questionable and have no major HS credentials to give you hope they'll be adequate. Cunningham has no hands, Cobbins we've never seen.

    Put me down as we need at least an outside WR (Love would be ideal) and probably another WR (assuming SMith is out for sure) Hopefully UK can flip a very good commit to our side.

    WR and DE (maybe CB in Stoops Cover 3 as well) are the 2 spots Stoops and staff need kids at in a bad way.

    This post was edited by K__TIME on 12/23/2012 at 6:43 AM

    K__TIME

  • The Cobb comparisons just need to stop. R Cobb is just a phenom of a football player. He is about to break a record for all purpose yardage in his second year in the league. You go ask any NFL defender how "slow" Cobb is or ask his HC what he thinks about R Cobb. Nobody on KYs roster is on the same planet as R Cobb. So just stop it.

    bigcat65

  • I agree bigcat Randall single handedly carried the offense as a frosh he averaged over 5 ypc whitlow avg what 2.9 this year hes a good athlete but Cobb he is not.

    quagmire

  • bigcat65 said...

    The Cobb comparisons just need to stop. R Cobb is just a phenom of a football player. He is about to break a record for all purpose yardage in his second year in the league. You go ask any NFL defender how "slow" Cobb is or ask his HC what he thinks about R Cobb. Nobody on KYs roster is on the same planet as R Cobb. So just stop it.

    I agree with that as well. Mostly because it does some of the players a disservice. Randall Cobbs come around about once every 10 years or so. UK rarely if ever gets these guys. Who knows Stoops could change that.

    Until someone comes along of close talent I think each wide receiver, kick returner will have to live with being compared to Cobb. It's just like each successful QB over the last several years has been compared to Couch. It's going to happen no matter how right or wrong it is.

    bigcatinva

  • bigcat65 said...

    The Cobb comparisons just need to stop. R Cobb is just a phenom of a football player. He is about to break a record for all purpose yardage in his second year in the league. You go ask any NFL defender how "slow" Cobb is or ask his HC what he thinks about R Cobb. Nobody on KYs roster is on the same planet as R Cobb. So just stop it.

    I know I referenced Cobb as a comparison to Whitlow but only in terms of the way Whitlow may change positions and be able to carve out a place in the offense that would benefit both Whitlow and the Cats. I also said that Whitlow isnt in the same league as Cobb and that is for sure but that doesnt mean they both cant take a similar path although on different talent levels.

    sleepydog

  • Cobb is not blazingly fast but he does have something that I think is even more important than blazing speed. He has great vision and makes players miss. It just seems he can always find the crease if there is one. The fact that he has amazing football IQ and is an outstanding leader also factors into the equation.

    I predict that someday Cobb will be an outstanding coach.

    Cll80 ●

  • bigcat65 said...

    The Cobb comparisons just need to stop. R Cobb is just a phenom of a football player. He is about to break a record for all purpose yardage in his second year in the league. You go ask any NFL defender how "slow" Cobb is or ask his HC what he thinks about R Cobb. Nobody on KYs roster is on the same planet as R Cobb. So just stop it.

    Exactly! In fact, Cobb did break the all-time Green Bay Packers record for yards from scrimmage in a year today. He has over 2300 yards this year, breaking Ahman Greens record set in 1993. Admittedly, playing a 16 game schedule gives players of this generation an advantage but if you look at the Packers history it is near unbelievable that Cobb has done this in his second year. Lets not forget that he holds the all-time UK Touchdown record as well and did that in 3 seasons. Cobb never got credit for being as fast as he was while at UK. Not sure why. He's not the fastest on the field, but more than fast enough obviously. As for Whitlow, come on guys, he just finished his freshman year. Give him a chance to grow and learn. I think he has a great chance to help us turn this around, whether at QB or WR.

    msdcatfan

  • msdcatfan said...

    Exactly! In fact, Cobb did break the all-time Green Bay Packers record for yards from scrimmage in a year today. He has over 2300 yards this year, breaking Ahman Greens record set in 1993. Admittedly, playing a 16 game schedule gives players of this generation an advantage but if you look at the Packers history it is near unbelievable that Cobb has done this in his second year. Lets not forget that he holds the all-time UK Touchdown record as well and did that in 3 seasons. Cobb never got credit for being as fast as he was while at UK. Not sure why. He's not the fastest on the field, but more than fast enough obviously. As for Whitlow, come on guys, he just finished his freshman year. Give him a chance to grow and learn. I think he has a great chance to help us turn this around, whether at QB or WR.

    Who is saying he wont help turn the program around whether he is at QB or at another position. I think he can be a difference maker but not to the level Randall Cobb was but that doesnt detract from what he may be able to add to the team. Most of what I have read on this thread is pro Cobb and pro Whitlow but not to the same degree.

    sleepydog

  • Cobb ran a 4.46 which is pretty dang fast. I sure haven't seen him get caught from behind in the SEC or in the NFL.

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2011/profiles/randall-cobb?id=2495448

    bigcat65

  • bigcat65 said...

    Cobb ran a 4.46 which is pretty dang fast. I sure haven't seen him get caught from behind in the SEC or in the NFL.

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2011/profiles/randall-cobb?id=2495448

    Your posted site doesn't work.

    UKlaw82

  • UKlaw82 said...

    Your posted site doesn't work.

    I just clicked on it and it worked just fine. I dont know what the problem may be, you may want to try again. Just saying...............

    sleepydog

  • bigcat65 said...

    Cobb ran a 4.46 which is pretty dang fast. I sure haven't seen him get caught from behind in the SEC or in the NFL.

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2011/profiles/randall-cobb?id=2495448

    4.46 is blazing fast, even for the NFL that is breakaway speed. In the past recruiting services didn't really put much into verifying 40 times. That is when we saw alot of recruits listed with 4.4, 4.3 and even sub 4.3 times that weren't legitimate. I think that really hurt perception with 40 times.

    How did this topic get de-railed this bad? confused

    Anyone with info on the original OP?

    kwag

  • sleepydog said...

    I just clicked on it and it worked just fine. I dont know what the problem may be, you may want to try again. Just saying...............

    Working now, thanks.

    UKlaw82

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