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Maryland's QB wanting to transfer to Vandy

  • Maryland is refusing. Wonder if Franklin is tampering with theseu kids?

    TNCatfanforever

  • They have an OT looking to transfer into the conference too. Just not at Vandy.

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  • WildcatDawg22 said...

    They have an OT looking to transfer into the conference too. Just not at Vandy.

    Uk in the mix?

    MinterWonderlnd

  • The OT is a GA kid heading back to GA sounds like. I'm guessing the Maryland/Franklin block goes back to him being the Coach in Waiting there.

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    terryinbham

  • Wants to be closer to home and he is from UGA. I think Florida, Florida State and UGA were the ones involved.

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  • I don't like anyone telling somebody where they are able to go to improve their lives, but it's also bad business IMO for Vandy to look at anyone from Maryland this soon.

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  • Look for the NCAA to close the loop on tranfers being immediately eligible at their new schools as well. There has been a lot of that lately and IMO it encourages coaches to possibly break the rules when it comes to kids who may be looking around.

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  • Jeff Drummond said...

    I don't like anyone telling somebody where they are able to go to improve their lives, but it's also bad business IMO for Vandy to look at anyone from Maryland this soon.

    I'm not sure why anyone would care. It's not like Maryland or Vandy are particularly any good.

    BlueGhost

  • BlueGhost said...

    I'm not sure why anyone would care. It's not like Maryland or Vandy are particularly any good.

    it's not anything on either of them being good, it's the fact that Franklin was a coach there and was supposed to be the 'coach in waiting' and the allegations of tampering that would follow

    Hogan_Ryan

  • rgunslinger said...

    Look for the NCAA to close the loop on tranfers being immediately eligible at their new schools as well. There has been a lot of that lately and IMO it encourages coaches to possibly break the rules when it comes to kids who may be looking around.

    I agree with this Slinger, especially with kids getting in trouble and being suspended or getting into academic trouble, then leaving. I believe that's what happened with Dyer at Auburn and following Malzahn (sp) to Arky State. I could be wrong, but I believe that's what happened

    Hogan_Ryan

  • BlueGhost said...

    I'm not sure why anyone would care. It's not like Maryland or Vandy are particularly any good.

    I don't think any of us are looking at it from a competitive balance standpoint. It's about what's right and wrong.

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  • Hogan_Ryan said...

    I agree with this Slinger, especially with kids getting in trouble and being suspended or getting into academic trouble, then leaving. I believe that's what happened with Dyer at Auburn and following Malzahn (sp) to Arky State. I could be wrong, but I believe that's what happened

    The NCAA opened that can of worms themselves with allowing Masolli to play at Ole Miss two years go. He got kicked off Oregonwent to Ole Miss and the NCAA told him he wouldn't not be elligible then immediately backed off.

    allenctynimrod

  • allenctynimrod said...

    The NCAA opened that can of worms themselves with allowing Masolli to play at Ole Miss two years go. He got kicked off Oregonwent to Ole Miss and the NCAA told him he wouldn't not be elligible then immediately backed off.

    yeah, the way he got by with that one was going to Ole Miss because they had a degree program that Ole Miss had and Oregon didn't have if I remember correctly. But either way, your right. The NCAA was to blame for that one

    Hogan_Ryan

  • BlueGhost said...

    I'm not sure why anyone would care. It's not like Maryland or Vandy are particularly any good.

    Looks like that one zinged right over the top.

    MossCat15

  • Jeff Drummond said...

    I don't think any of us are looking at it from a competitive balance standpoint. It's about what's right and wrong.

    I think that if scholarships remain renewable on an annual basis by schools, then student athletes should be able to transfer anywhere and play right away.

    BigTyrone

  • Jeff Drummond said...

    I don't like anyone telling somebody where they are able to go to improve their lives, but it's also bad business IMO for Vandy to look at anyone from Maryland this soon.

    What about when Coach Cal left Memphis for Kentucky and brought oral commitments Demarcus Cousins, Eric Bledsoe, etc.?

    Bad business?

    The Maryland quarterback is a good player who got benched late in the season by Coach Randy Edsel. He is looking to make a fresh start and has a past relationship with Coach Franklin at Vanderbilt.

    I don't see the issue.

    5368ppi

  • MinterWonderlnd said...

    Uk in the mix?

    Where would we fit him in the 85? Too many now I think.

    vhcat1970

  • Jeff Drummond said...

    I don't think any of us are looking at it from a competitive balance standpoint. It's about what's right and wrong.

    Oh, if you want to get into the right and wrong battles on this, I think you can argue very strongly that the kid is the victim in this situation and should be allowed to do what he wants. The player gets punished for having gone to play for a particular coach that left to go coach somewhere else while the schools stand to make millions if he pans out. The player gets treated like a prisoner over something that he had absolutely no control over.

    Also, who can argue with a kid wanting to get a Vandy education over Maryland? I see this from a completely different viewpoint. The kid is getting a hose job.

    This post was edited by BlueGhost on 2/15/2012 at 7:52 AM

    BlueGhost

  • 5368ppi said...

    What about when Coach Cal left Memphis for Kentucky and brought oral commitments Demarcus Cousins, Eric Bledsoe, etc.?

    Bad business?

    The Maryland quarterback is a good player who got benched late in the season by Coach Randy Edsel. He is looking to make a fresh start and has a past relationship with Coach Franklin at Vanderbilt.

    I don't see the issue.

    Re: Cal. Apparently the NCAA thinks it's bad business, as it closed the loophole allowing players to sign conditional LOIs. I don't think coaches should do this, but I think players should have the right to play wherever they want, as long as that program will have them.

    BigTyrone

  • Jeff Drummond said...

    I don't like anyone telling somebody where they are able to go to improve their lives, but it's also bad business IMO for Vandy to look at anyone from Maryland this soon.

    Disagree JDrum. It isnt like Franklin is the one who left them, it was Maryland who did not follow through with hiring him as head coach and thus he was forced to go elsewhere. Shame on the NCAA to allow coaches and schools to be this petty and vindictive towards former employees by using kids. It was a travesty a few years ago when Jurich refused to let UL football players transfer to Arkansas - a team not in UL's conference, and not on their schedule. Dooley has been beyond reprehensible with his limitations/blocks of transfers. And yet noone anywhere stands up to this nonsense or suggest the NCAA step in and stop the harm being done to "student-athletes".

    JHB4UK

  • MossCat15 said...

    Looks like that one zinged right over the top.

    Vandy certainly looked MUCH improved last year and a team that's headed in the right direction.

    MinterWonderlnd

  • BigTyrone said...

    I think that if scholarships remain renewable on an annual basis by schools, then student athletes should be able to transfer anywhere and play right away.

    No and here is why. If players are transferring from place to place, then there becomes an incredible gap in talent. Say a kid at Syracuse blows up and decides to transfer to UGA because he does not have to sit out a year, that is not fair. Essentially, there would be an annual "free agency."

    Also, argue it all you want, but the NCAA has STUDENT-athletes. If you let guys transfer based on athletics, then it becomes more and more obvious that academics are not a concern of the NCAA. Which violates their amateurism statement and everything that they are about.

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  • Hogan_Ryan said...

    yeah, the way he got by with that one was going to Ole Miss because they had a degree program that Ole Miss had and Oregon didn't have if I remember correctly. But either way, your right. The NCAA was to blame for that one

    You remember correctly. The thing about Masoli is that he had no interest in what he went to grad school for, which was agriculture or something to that effect. He found a school that he wanted to attend and cherry picked a grad program that Oregon did not have, because he knew the Ole Miss coaches would help him through it.

    What I did not like about the situation is that Masoli was caught with marijuana while he was in Oregon. Recreational drugs are against NCAA rules. However, because he did not get tested and had not ingested any, he was off the hook. Essentially, as an NCAA student-athlete, you can run a crime ring as long as you are not inhaling what you are selling. Take into account that I did not even mention his on-field altercation until now.

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  • Hogan_Ryan said...

    I agree with this Slinger, especially with kids getting in trouble and being suspended or getting into academic trouble, then leaving. I believe that's what happened with Dyer at Auburn and following Malzahn (sp) to Arky State. I could be wrong, but I believe that's what happened

    If you want to go from Auburn, where you are getting NFL exposure to Arkansas State, then by all means. I have no problem with that. He does not have to sit out a year, because he is transferring down in the ranks. DI to DII.

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  • rgunslinger said...

    Look for the NCAA to close the loop on tranfers being immediately eligible at their new schools as well. There has been a lot of that lately and IMO it encourages coaches to possibly break the rules when it comes to kids who may be looking around.

    There has only been a lot of that lately, because of kids finally taking advantage of the grad school exception. A normal four-year student-athlete can not transfer and play immediately. Not sure the NCAA will change the grad rule simply because it is a reward to farther your schoolwork and you can not make them sit out a year. If you do, then they will be done with the grad program before they are eligible to play.

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