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MinterWonderlnd said...
My lasting memories of Cassidy are of Steve Kragthorpe's first year at UL. Remember Stevie getting loose? That was a snapshot of the UL secondary the entire season, and what ultimately costed him his job at UL. UL had opposing WRs running free all season long. Remember Syracuse coming into the Pizza Pit and their QB throwing bombs all day to wide open receivers for walk in TDs? It happened all season and resulted in Cassidy being fired and replaced by the outgoing DC at Michigan.
One thing is for certain- this staff is certainly "experienced". Minter, Cassidy, Summers, Nord, Chuck Smith, Steve Pardue, David Turner..... Outside of Tee, who are the young recruiters on staff?
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Rich Brooks had a ton of beef with Cassity. The biggest? Do you guys remember the back and forth recruitment of Ricky Lumpkin between UK and UL? There was an night in late Jan that both UL and UK visited Lumpkin's home in Tenn. UL was represented by Cassity and UK went in with Coach Brooks and Ortmayer. Cassity had just told the Lumpkin Camp some extremely dishonest and ugly rumors about Brooks and UK. Brooks followed and had to spend a majority of the visit trying to convince the family that the rumores weren't true. Ultimately, Brooks and Co proved to the Lumpkins that Cassity was a lying piece of garbage regarding the matter and got Lumpkin to sign with UK.
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Really? Lets lay out some facts here:
1) The game of football is about the Jimmy's and the Joes, which is why Steve Brown was fired.
2) College football recruiting is not for the mother mary sisters of the poor. It is tough. And you have to do what you need to do to get kids on campus.....however, let it be known that Joker has built a culture of trying to do the right thing, rather than anything, to get kids on campus.
3) Sometimes a coach and their styles mimic that of their leader. Petrino is a lying piece of crap, and thus the coaches beneath him become lying pieces of crap.
4) Until Kentucky starts getting players on the field that can play some damn football, it doesn't matter what the coaches are doing. Kentucky is in the SEC. There is not a gimmick in the world that is going to work consistent in the SEC without the talent needed to complete it. Why is it that so many of these "great" coaches don't come to the SEC and immediately have incredible success and competing for championships the second they step on campus? Look at Dan Mullen. He's been average. Why? Because he didn't have the same talent as he did at Florida.
5) Joker Phillips understands what it takes to win at an SEC program. PLAYERS. SPEED. TACKLING. ELITE LEVEL ATTITUDE. Remember, if a kid plays at Kentucky and he doesn't believe he was good enough to play for FLorida, then Kentucky has not shot when playing Florida. You gotta have cocky, attitude, and elite athleticism. Almost every team in the SEC lost playing time with their QB this year due to injury. Only one did in the Mountain West. Why? Because the SEC will beat you down like a red headed stepchild. That's why you need depth at every position. No single player is immune from getting beat to crap in the SEC.Personally, I don't give a rat crap what anyone did before their tenure at Kentucky. It becomes irrelevant. What is relevant is if they can go out there and close on kids that are going to make a difference to this program.
Recruit. Recruit. Recruit. Get 'em on campus. Coach them up. And watch the W's start to come. I care about four things when it comes to Kentucky football.
1) Getting the best players we can, and ones that will be eligible.
2) Coaching them up.
3) Getting them to class.
4) Keeping them out of trouble.You do those 4 things, and Kentucky will start to win. Like Joker, I'm done with Kentucky football being a joke, and I want him to do whatever is in the realm of possibility with the restrictions the UK program will always have and build a GD winner.
So, if Cassity did something I hated to pull a kid from Kentucky, I hope he does the same thing to Florida, Georgia, LSU. Go, get, them.
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Really? Lets lay out some facts here:
1) The game of football is about the Jimmy's and the Joes, which is why Steve Brown was fired. 2) College football recruiting is not for the mother mary sisters of the poor. It is tough. And you have to do what you need to do to get kids on campus.....however, let it be known that Joker has built a culture of trying to do the right thing, rather than anything, to get kids on campus. 3) Sometimes a coach and their styles mimic that of their leader. Petrino is a lying piece of crap, and thus the coaches beneath him become lying pieces of crap. 4) Until Kentucky starts getting players on the field that can play some damn football, it doesn't matter what the coaches are doing. Kentucky is in the SEC. There is not a gimmick in the world that is going to work consistent in the SEC without the talent needed to complete it. Why is it that so many of these "great" coaches don't come to the SEC and immediately have incredible success and competing for championships the second they step on campus? Look at Dan Mullen. He's been average. Why? Because he didn't have the same talent as he did at Florida. 5) Joker Phillips understands what it takes to win at an SEC program. PLAYERS. SPEED. TACKLING. ELITE LEVEL ATTITUDE. Remember, if a kid plays at Kentucky and he doesn't believe he was good enough to play for FLorida, then Kentucky has not shot when playing Florida. You gotta have cocky, attitude, and elite athleticism. Almost every team in the SEC lost playing time with their QB this year due to injury. Only one did in the Mountain West. Why? Because the SEC will beat you down like a red headed stepchild. That's why you need depth at every position. No single player is immune from getting beat to crap in the SEC.
Personally, I don't give a rat crap what anyone did before their tenure at Kentucky. It becomes irrelevant. What is relevant is if they can go out there and close on kids that are going to make a difference to this program.
Recruit. Recruit. Recruit. Get 'em on campus. Coach them up. And watch the W's start to come. I care about four things when it comes to Kentucky football.
1) Getting the best players we can, and ones that will be eligible. 2) Coaching them up. 3) Getting them to class. 4) Keeping them out of trouble.
You do those 4 things, and Kentucky will start to win. Like Joker, I'm done with Kentucky football being a joke, and I want him to do whatever is in the realm of possibility with the restrictions the UK program will always have and build a GD winner.
So, if Cassity did something I hated to pull a kid from Kentucky, I hope he does the same thing to Florida, Georgia, LSU. Go, get, them.
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MinterWonderlnd said...
I agree with what you guys are saying about recruiting, I was just pointing out one of the reasons Rich Brooks hates the guy so much. He probably wouldn't have hated him if he'd been recruiting for UK at the time.
I'm unfamiliar with Cassity as a recruiter. I've seen you guys mention he was a Top 25 recruiter by rivals.com. Does anyone have a list of recruits he was responsible for inking at his respective schools in the past? This could probably tell us a lot about his recruiting results.
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Mike Cassity the new DB Coach?