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tWhit said...
If we can pass to set up the run like Joker wants we've got several guys that can break big runs. I picture a future with Towels at QB, Mobely, Taylor and Clemons at RB, and Sweat, Legree, Collins, Robinson and Cunningham at WR. That some pretty damn good talent. Maybe even surpasses what we had in 07.
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C1180 said...
It seems several poster believe we have good young talent and will have a good team next year. This would seem to mean to me that the coaching staff is recruiting good young talent and is on the right track to improve the team.
This is why I dont understand why so many think that Joker and staff must have a good year this year or they are gone. If they have the Cats on an up tic in talent and it is likely that they will have a break out year next year it would seem just plain stupid to have a coaching change and start over from scratch just when the young talent has matured enough to be competitive in the SEC. That would seem unfair to the UK coaching staff, the players, and detrimental to the teams future.
IMO unless the season is a complete disaster, the young players dont show potential to be much better the following year, and coaching decisions show that the coaching staff is in over its head the Coaching staff will deserve to come back for what should be their break out year.
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C1180 said...
It seems several poster believe we have good young talent and will have a good team next year. This would seem to mean to me that the coaching staff is recruiting good young talent and is on the right track to improve the team.
This is why I dont understand why so many think that Joker and staff must have a good year this year or they are gone. If they have the Cats on an up tic in talent and it is likely that they will have a break out year next year it would seem just plain stupid to have a coaching change and start over from scratch just when the young talent has matured enough to be competitive in the SEC. That would seem unfair to the UK coaching staff, the players, and detrimental to the teams future.
IMO unless the season is a complete disaster, the young players dont show potential to be much better the following year, and coaching decisions show that the coaching staff is in over its head the Coaching staff will deserve to come back for what should be their break out year.
This post was edited by catfaninMs on 7/13/2012 at 11:00 PM
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catfaninMs said...
One of the best post I've read agree 100%.
I been telling anyone that will leason down here in Mississippi that with the young talent we have a UK, we are going to shock the world. They tell me to take my UK BLUE shades of & see that we havent even had a top 25 class. BUT I HAVE FELL I LOVE WITH THIS LAST FEW CLASSES.
So I got 2 questions
1 am i looking through UK BLUE shades
OR
2 If Joker & staff can & are finding underrated players that can start to play at a high SEC level & finally start to compete for the east, why the hell is so many "fans" calling for Jokers job?
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tWhit said...
I think you've got your shades down by the of your nose. So you're partly looking through blue shades. We've got some damn good player in these last couple of classes but we need more to compete for a title in the East which would definitely SHOCK THE WORLD. We still need a big time Wideout, a damn good Center and some great ILB's in this 2013 class.
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zcats said...
Evidently people are getting out of the way in record numbers. It is up to Joker to show he can coach a team. He has always been an effective recruiter but his teams have not been well prepared and his game coaching mostly bad. He did figure out how to limit Randall Cobb's touches in order not to tire him out. If this team looks like the last one it will be hard for these coaches to keep their jobs. Call it howling if you want.
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hoptownukfan said...
Yeah. I mean, he just struggled so much against the number 1 team in the nation two years ago and was awful In breaking the spurrier streak.
This is a great example of a lod post. Ignoring reality and focusing on only the negative.
The reality is that in year one under joker we were pretty good. We were in a position had we beaten the miss schools and Tennessee we win the east.
Bottom line is that this is a huge year for joker. We met make progresses. But to act as if joker has been a complete failure is ignoring reality.
This post was edited by A_Cat on 7/14/2012 at 7:44 PM
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A_Cat said...
If you're going to blast someone for being one sided you might want to also mention Jokers shortcomings to be taken seriously. Ex: Vandy, Pitt, WKU, ect... There are plenty of examples for the LOD to jump on Joker for. Just like there are reasons for the Sunshine pumpers to support Joker. Reality is typically in the middle.
IMO, the situation is this, Joker appears to be recruiting better players. But a good chunk of fans, my self included, have some questions about his ability to lead an SEC team. We as fans will not know the truth until we actually win or continue to lose SEC ball games this year and next with said players or coaches.
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zcats said...
Evidently people are getting out of the way in record numbers. It is up to Joker to show he can coach a team. He has always been an effective recruiter but his teams have not been well prepared and his game coaching mostly bad. He did figure out how to limit Randall Cobb's touches in order not to tire him out. If this team looks like the last one it will be hard for these coaches to keep their jobs. Call it howling if you want.
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rgunslinger said...
Since the positives and negatives of Joker's tenure are being pointed out there is something everyone needs to keep in mind. Joker is just going into his 3rd year as a head coach and coaches in the single toughest conference in the country. That isn't an easy way to cut your teeth as a young head coach.
That isn't an excuse just a fact. Also, before anyone brings it up, yes Joker has been a coach for a long time but there is a HUGE difference in being an assistant and being the big dog, it's gonna take time and there will be growing pains in the progress. The key is to keep bringing in better recruits because the fact remains better players make better coaches.
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Catmando said...
^ Still say an SEC school shouldn't hire a coach that needs to go through growing pains, but that's neither here nor there at this point.
As far Joker retaining is job, it's simple. It's put up or shut up time;Get it together and win. The reasons don't matter any more. If we look as bad as last year, the ticket buyers will force Mitch to action after this season. I am happy that recruiting is on the upswing, and that the future looks bright, but the program should have never gone backwards like it did, rather than capitalizing on Brooks success. I just hope for Joker's sake that he turns a corner this year, so he gets a chance to let his recruits mature.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by MossCat15 on 7/14/2012 at 10:35 PM
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rgunslinger said...
Since the positives and negatives of Joker's tenure are being pointed out there is something everyone needs to keep in mind. Joker is just going into his 3rd year as a head coach and coaches in the single toughest conference in the country. That isn't an easy way to cut your teeth as a young head coach.
That isn't an excuse just a fact. Also, before anyone brings it up, yes Joker has been a coach for a long time but there is a HUGE difference in being an assistant and being the big dog, it's gonna take time and there will be growing pains in the progress. The key is to keep bringing in better recruits because the fact remains better players make better coaches.
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