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Ok I Waited Long Enough

  • I have been letting everyone enjoy the moment but I think enough time has passed to say WTF!!! was Cal thinking calling off the dogs the entire 2nd half? I'm sure I wasn't the only one frustrated and screaming "GO!!" when we were on a break only to see them stop and pull back. Cal admitted he told them to do that. We should have won that game going away by 30. Instead we let Kansas back into it and if the game was just a little longer or a couple more shots went in Kansas would have won. Don't get me wrong I am ecstatic we won but you have to admit that another terrible coaching decision almost cost him yet another title. Slowing it down is exactly what Kansas wanted and the only way they could comeback and it's exactly what Cal did. I just don't understand it. Oh well. We won and that's the most important thing, but still. Terrible call.

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    CarlLexington

  • CarlLexington said...

    I have been letting everyone enjoy the moment but I think enough time has passed to say WTF!!! was Cal thinking calling off the dogs the entire 2nd half? I'm sure I wasn't the only one frustrated and screaming "GO!!" when we were on a break only to see them stop and pull back. Cal admitted he told them to do that. We should have won that game going away by 30. Instead we let Kansas back into it and if the game was just a little longer or a couple more shots went in Kansas would have won. Don't get me wrong I am ecstatic we won but you have to admit that another terrible coaching decision almost cost him yet another title. Slowing it down is exactly what Kansas wanted and the only way they could comeback and it's exactly what Cal did. I just don't understand it. Oh well. We won and that's the most important thing, but still. Terrible call.

    Dude, we won. . . that is all that matters. . . lol

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    BG631

  • lol I know and i figure that will be the common response, most of which being a lot less nice than yours. But I have to think I wasn't the only one that was going crazy about it.

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    CarlLexington

  • I've been wondering myself. I've come to the conclusion that playing only 6 guys the majority of the minutes he was afraid we'd run out of gas. He did the same thing in the Baylor, Louisville and Kansas games. I think he found a way to conserve our energy but also keeping our best players in the game. When you think about it like that its genius IMO. Still I'm not sure I would have done the same.

    tWhit

  • Yeah he did it a lot this year. He starts running clock way too early. Obviously you can't argue with the wins and losses results. But there were several games this year that were close at the end when they shouldn't have been. I can see running clock but not for an entire half!! Especially when slowing the game down favors the other team so much. We won but I don't get it.

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    CarlLexington

  • CarlLexington said...

    Yeah he did it a lot this year. He starts running clock way too early. Obviously you can't argue with the wins and losses results. But there were several games this year that were close at the end when they shouldn't have been. I can see running clock but not for an entire half!! Especially when slowing the game down favors the other team so much. We won but I don't get it.

    Think about it though its not only Cal its human nature to a degree. The 96 team is the only college basketball team I've ever seen that wanted to kill you. When they had the other team on the ropes they went for the kill. But they also had unlimited depth and played a style conducive to that. In other sports Tiger Woods and Michael Jordan are the only guys I've seen that wanted to take your heart. At that point your not just competing against the opponent but your competing against yourself. It takes unbelievable heart and desire to not only beat somebody but to set records and personal bests in doing so.

    tWhit

  • Why does this post not surprise me?

    This post was edited by hoptownukfan on 4/5/2012 at 7:21 AM

    hoptownukfan

  • CarlLexington said...

    I have been letting everyone enjoy the moment but I think enough time has passed to say WTF!!! was Cal thinking calling off the dogs the entire 2nd half? I'm sure I wasn't the only one frustrated and screaming "GO!!" when we were on a break only to see them stop and pull back. Cal admitted he told them to do that. We should have won that game going away by 30. Instead we let Kansas back into it and if the game was just a little longer or a couple more shots went in Kansas would have won. Don't get me wrong I am ecstatic we won but you have to admit that another terrible coaching decision almost cost him yet another title. Slowing it down is exactly what Kansas wanted and the only way they could comeback and it's exactly what Cal did. I just don't understand it. Oh well. We won and that's the most important thing, but still. Terrible call.

    Too soon brother...too soon. Lol. Lets just marinate on it a little longer.

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    tommy

  • Said the same thing during the SEC tournament. My one single solitary complaint with anything Calipari does running this program is this rairing back on the reigns in the 2nd half....even if we have as little as an 8 point lead. And it isnt like this season is unique, he's been doing it all 3 seasons here at UK.

    Maybe it is the fear of his short benches, or of an important player suffering a significant injury, or because he's just a good hearted guy who doesnt want to drub whatever coach is on the opposite sideline, I just don't know. Guess it hasnt bit us in the you-know-what (save perhaps the Vandy SEC CG?), so I guess it is a very minor insignificant nitpick.

    JHB4UK

  • In terms of answering this silly post. The only way for Kansas to come back against us was to give up easy baskets in bunches. By running our half-court motion offense inside of 15 or 10 seconds on every posession once we got the lead back up to 16 (KU cut it while we were running up and down the floor in the first 8 minutes of second half) Cal decided, rightfully slow, to GRIND it out. Why? Because if you take the clock inside 15 or 10 seconds every time you limit the # of posessions that your opponent has. The few posessions they have the more they rush and the better they have to execute. it's nearly impossible to execute well against our defense. We also limited our turnovers greatly by slowing things down.

    The plan worked to perfection. Yes KU cut the lead, but it was a 6 point lead with 1 minute left. I'd take that every time.

    I trust cal more than you. Sorry if that hurts your feeilngs.

    hoptownukfan

  • who knows if we speed it up? clank a few bricks, lose some confidence, get torched on a few breaks, we could have lost, no-one will ever know though, we won, and given that there's not a lot to question imo!

    QueenLizzysWildcat

  • I know hw said that after the game, but go back and watch and that's not what it looks like at all in the Championship game. Looks to me like the kids started feeling the pressure and freezing up, as they were still driving, but missing shots they normally would hav emade. IMO, cal just said that as a deflection.

    Catmando

  • I don't think Cal coaches to offense, really. Like all good coaches he primarily teaches defense as a way to win. I think the slowdowns we were seeing were more to prevent a team from getting hot and in a good flow against us. And it worked. flex

    BlueGhost

  • Catmando said...

    I know hw said that after the game, but go back and watch and that's not what it looks like at all in the Championship game. Looks to me like the kids started feeling the pressure and freezing up, as they were still driving, but missing shots they normally would hav emade. IMO, cal just said that as a deflection.

    Huh? The last 12 minutes of the game we ran the shotclock down inside 15 seconds on nearly every single posession. We ran our motion "baseline screen" offense for 20 seconds and then went screen and roll in the last 10-15 seconds. This was 100% by design and it 100% worked.

    hoptownukfan

  • The 96 team was built around getting easy buckets off of transition which is why they pressed and used lots of people. They were succeptible to getting beat by a good half court team and playing half court themselves. Their offense was 75% based on transition from their defense.

    The 2012 team could do both. However, we didn't have the depth to do the above nor was it the plan. We COULD take the clock down and limit possessions for KU which worked! We DON'T know if it would have worked the other way. We DON'T know if KU would have gotten easier transition baskets (They weren't getting easy half-court baskets. We made them use up the whole shot clock to score too!) Jones also had turned his ankle too earlier in the game. So he wasn't 100% in running the court. We also had some players starting to acrew fouls that with our history of receiving charging calls would have been possibly worse. As it is, we won! Enjoy!

    Don't look at our championship through a half empty containter! We won the whole freaking container filled to the top!! :)horn

    TheBluesBrother

  • hoptownukfan said...

    Huh? The last 12 minutes of the game we ran the shotclock down inside 15 seconds on nearly every single posession. We ran our motion "baseline screen" offense for 20 seconds and then went screen and roll in the last 10-15 seconds. This was 100% by design and it 100% worked.

    but for 8 minutes prior to that, we were driving and trying to score but nothing was going down. If anything, Cal "called them off" cause they were neither scoring nor running clock. Maybe he figured if they weren't going to be able to score, he'd at least get them to run some clock, but if you don't think that team was tight and pressing to score, I don't know wha you were watching.

    Catmando

  • CarlLexington said...

    I have been letting everyone enjoy the moment but I think enough time has passed to say WTF!!! was Cal thinking calling off the dogs the entire 2nd half? I'm sure I wasn't the only one frustrated and screaming "GO!!" when we were on a break only to see them stop and pull back. Cal admitted he told them to do that. We should have won that game going away by 30. Instead we let Kansas back into it and if the game was just a little longer or a couple more shots went in Kansas would have won. Don't get me wrong I am ecstatic we won but you have to admit that another terrible coaching decision almost cost him yet another title. Slowing it down is exactly what Kansas wanted and the only way they could comeback and it's exactly what Cal did. I just don't understand it. Oh well. We won and that's the most important thing, but still. Terrible call.

    I think you have a good point and I agree with it. But your wording is purposefully and unnecessarily negative. You relish animosity ... why?

    poliglotcat

  • Seems like that was the formula pretty much all season: get out to a comfortable lead and then ease off.

    It's tough, especially for a young team at times, to play from ahead. The definition of what a good shot is completely changes and running clock can take you out of your offensive rhythm.

    Tough thing to balance.

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  • Chris Fisher said...

    Seems like that was the formula pretty much all season: get out to a comfortable lead and then ease off.

    It's tough, especially for a young team at times, to play from ahead. The definition of what a good shot is completely changes and running clock can take you out of your offensive rhythm.

    Tough thing to balance.

    If that 's the case, to ease up, then why not let the guys on the bench play?

    stonewall011

  • Catmando said...

    I know hw said that after the game, but go back and watch and that's not what it looks like at all in the Championship game. Looks to me like the kids started feeling the pressure and freezing up, as they were still driving, but missing shots they normally would hav emade. IMO, cal just said that as a deflection.

    Did you see the interview after the game? Cal said, "they were telling me 'let us go! let us go!' but I wanted to slow it down". Something to that effect. And hop he slowed it down the entire 2nd half. He didn't let em run the first 8 or 9 minutes.

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    CarlLexington

  • poliglotcat said...

    I think you have a good point and I agree with it. But your wording is purposefully and unnecessarily negative. You relish animosity ... why?

    It isn't purposefully. It's just the way I talk. All I relish is national titles and 19 year old blonde girls with swedish accents.

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    CarlLexington

  • CarlLexington said...

    Yeah he did it a lot this year. He starts running clock way too early. Obviously you can't argue with the wins and losses results. But there were several games this year that were close at the end when they shouldn't have been. I can see running clock but not for an entire half!! Especially when slowing the game down favors the other team so much. We won but I don't get it.

    Isn't it a contritiction to say you can't argue with the record yet at the same time that's what you are doing. Just proves that even winning isn't enough for UK fans. You have to win every game by 30. Cal is all about the win and also about preparing his team to win the NCAA. Blowing out every team doesnt always prepare your team for success in the NCAA. These guys were ready for close games and every style. I've got zero interest in ascetics. I want wins and that is what Cal delivers.

    bigcat65

  • CarlLexington said...

    I have been letting everyone enjoy the moment but I think enough time has passed to say WTF!!! was Cal thinking calling off the dogs the entire 2nd half? I'm sure I wasn't the only one frustrated and screaming "GO!!" when we were on a break only to see them stop and pull back. Cal admitted he told them to do that. We should have won that game going away by 30. Instead we let Kansas back into it and if the game was just a little longer or a couple more shots went in Kansas would have won. Don't get me wrong I am ecstatic we won but you have to admit that another terrible coaching decision almost cost him yet another title. Slowing it down is exactly what Kansas wanted and the only way they could comeback and it's exactly what Cal did. I just don't understand it. Oh well. We won and that's the most important thing, but still. Terrible call.

    Yeah, he said he made a mistake, so LET IT GO, we won the NC. Please don't make me beat you with my "be happy stick." Besides carl, you were at least one for two, you got your 8th national championship.

    This post was edited by UKlaw82 on 4/5/2012 at 11:57 PM

    UKlaw82

  • stonewall011 said...

    If that 's the case, to ease up, then why not let the guys on the bench play?

    As I mentioned in a post above you ease off and conserve energy for the starters yet keep them in the game. To much dropoff between our starters and our bench this year. Our bench outside of Miller and Wiltjer was horrible. The only guy that you even consider playing outside of Miller and Wiltjer is Vargas and he's not a good option by any means. Even then Cal put him in a couple of times.

    tWhit

  • CarlLexington said...

    It isn't purposefully. It's just the way I talk. All I relish is national titles and 19 year old blonde girls with swedish accents.

    Good one! (from the Pink Panther)

    poliglotcat