The House of Blue

He is on his third year of a five year contract this year. With two years left, it would almost assuredly require and extension or new contract.

Personally I think the Cake is baked. Joker is a lame duck.

My point is I quit following I quit buying tickets, merchandise, etc. Enough people feel like I do it hits the wallet. I'm not supporting a loser where the administration laughs at its customers. If you want to that's your decision and I can understand that.

They only played 6 or 7 games because they got hurt man. C'mon. Chicken or the egg. besides, I was refering more to linemen than anyone, as they are the one's that determine whether we compete.

Although I am not in the "ditch Joker regardless" crowd, I think you are way wrong. There are many fans (myself included) that are still going to games but would rethink about doing so if Joker is the man next year and we find ourselves 1-3 again. Without a doubt UK football can lose an additional 10k fans if that happens.

My guess is about 30k will show up regardless of the product on the field. The other 40k want something for their money. Not championships, just competitive football.

If MB sticks with Joker and we finish 3-9, or something like that, you can bet the season ticket sales will plummet next year. Even some of the big money people will bail, because when/if there is a change, UK will welcome them back. Simple fact.

Nobody's in a "tizzy". Just discussing possiblities. That's the purpose of these boards, for people to state their views. Your words added absolutely nothing to the conversation, but, it's your right to say them.

This exactly, I like Joker so much I would love for him to pull off two upsets and get another year to develop this teams talent. Like all of us I want what is best for UK football. Switching to a new coach with out a big time commitment from Mitch, UK and apparently the KY legislature, is going to yield the same results. Einstein said the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.

If the title of the thread said "if mitch says". That's hypothetical. Since it says "when mitch says" it makes it sound as if he'll do it.

Great post...

I agree. Good post.

There are too many other posts on here to quote so I am just replying to several things.

We will find out Saturday if this team is improving. Part of me wants to believe they are after the last two weeks. Having said that, each of the last two weeks were trap games for our opponents. They slept walked through the first half and woke up a little in the second half. Especially USC. Florida is not as good as USC. If MIss St comes in here and beats us by 20 then this season is more than likely done. If we can keep the game competitive then I do believe this team is improving and IF we can pull out 3-4 more wins (Ole Miss, Ark, Vandy, and Samford are the targets) then I believe Joker will get another year and I will be okay with that.

What I won't be okay with is only winning 1-2 more games and having Joker brought back. I keep hearing people say "You have to give him time to win with his players" or "we just have a young team". What those people fail to realize or simply choose to ignore is that Joker was named 'Coach-in-waiting" so that there would not be any instability in the program. Recruits knew coming in who the coach would be. And lets not kid ourselves, the recruiting now isn't really any worse than it was. We were lucky with a couple of classes in the fact that several players turned out to be a little better than people thought they would. Tamme, Woodson, Burton, Little, Johnson, Woodyard, were all 3 star players who turned out to be pretty good players. Joker is still getting some 3 star recruits and sprinkling in a 4 star here and there. Two big factors going against Joker now is an 8th conference game and a rapidly rising Louisville program. When Brooks was here, U of L was on the decline when Petrino left and we were simply better than them. Now it is completely reversed and we are the team in decline. Let's not forget they could have beaten us by 50 had Strong wanted to. And adding that 8th conference game has eliminated one of our "guaranteed wins" that were on the schedule every year. And speaking of guaranteed wins, you think UK is looking forward to going to Nashville next year to play WKU?

Someone said "empty seats wont matter". Wrong. They will. A two win season this year and I can guarantee you that you will see another drop in ticket sales. The "old farts" that always came to UK games are, to be blunt, starting to die or not be able to come to games any more. It happens when you get old. The younger generation of fans doesn't necessarily care more about football than the older folks do. We (the younger generation) are just not as willing to keep pouring money into a program for a university that has basically laughed in our faces for the past 50 years about being seriously committed to football. We would rather stay home and have friends over and watch from the comfort of our homes on our 70" TV's so that we can change the channel when things get out of hand and not have to fight traffic leaving the game. We are tired of paying the salaries of those responsible for putting a watered down product on the field. We don't have to win 10 games every year. We would just like for the team we support and pay for to be competitive. Win say 7 games a year on average. We understand there will be years where you may be down and win 4 or 5 games. As long as it's not 10 plus years in between bowl appearances we will be okay with it. We just want the University to care about the program as the fans have for the past 50 years when they have shown up and supported the worst of teams.

These are different times and different people. Saturday is a big game for UK. At home against an undeated ranked opponent. 15 years ago it would have been a packed house. Saturday, well with forcast of 55 degrees and early rain on top of being opening weekend at Keeneland, I'd say they will be lucky if there is 40,000 people there if the forcast holds. That isn't the direction the program should be going in.

It was quite amusing having been at the game to see an attendance reported of 49,500. I about ran off the road laughing on my way home. Normally you can get away with that because the lower bowl is full. Not even close on Saturday. I would say if they were lucky there were 35,000 in attendance, and that is pushing it. 30,000 is closer to reality.

Yeah, nothing is wrong and the program is headed in the right direction. Keep telling yourself that UK. The more you lie about the situation the worse you are making it. Even Patrick Towles couldn't fill the seats.

Oh, in no way am I suggestion to fire Joker right now. I said earlier that if the team improved and we could pull off 3-4 more wins this year he should definitely be kept on. You have to give him the rest of the year.