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Petrino and the whole truth, please read and then decide

  • sleepydog said...

    Can I trust him to be loyal or faithful to UK and its fans? And if the answer is no then you have your answer to whether he should be the coach at UK. If your answer is yes then you do what you have to do to get him hired but dont say you havent been informed in advance.

    You don't have to trust him to be loyal. Put a $10 million buyout and a SEC no-compete clause in his contract. Then if he leaves after 1, 2 or 3 years, he has effectively coached here for nothing or owes us a big payment. At that point, we could hire the same person we're getting ready to hire and still be ahead of the game.

    Beavis13

  • Beavis13 said...

    You don't have to trust him to be loyal. Put a $10 million buyout and a SEC no-compete clause in his contract. Then if he leaves after 1, 2 or 3 years, he has effectively coached here for nothing or owes us a big payment. At that point, we could hire the same person we're getting ready to hire and still be ahead of the game.

    Thats a good point but there is no way he would agree to that and in that way I get what I think is best for UK no Petrino. Again what you stated is a good point but it doesnt address the character flaws that he has exhibited time after time with former employers.

    This post was edited by sleepydog on 11/22/2012 at 9:13 PM

    sleepydog

  • sleepydog said...

    I have made it clear how I feel about the hiring of Bobby Petrino for the HC job at UK and here is why. In Nov. 2003 BP was the newly hired coach of the Louisville Cardinals and during that 1st year BP met with officials of Auburn across the river from Louisville and this was a hush hush meeting meaning no one from the UL AD office new about it. When it was brought up BP denied it to the media,fans and the UL administration. But in a short time he was confronted by the media and again denied it until they produced proof and remember neither schools season was completed. BP continued in private denying it until Auburn officials admitted to the meeting.(strike1). 1st part of 2004 BP interviewed for ND hc position again w/o ADs knowledge, then on Dec7th he pledgesd his undying loyalty to UL, Then 2wks later he interviewed for the LSU HC job.(strike2) Then in 2005 he stated he wasnt interested in coaching at the pro level, then shortly after that he interviewed for the Oakland Raiders job.(strike3). In July 2006 he sighned a 10 yr. extenstion w/UL and said he wanted to raise his family there for a long long time, then 5 months later he left UL and took the Falcons job(strike4). A few months later he left the Falcons w/o saying anything to the players and they really reacted negatively to him doing that.(strike5). Then he took the Arkansas job and everything was quiet for a time and then the motorcycle wreck and all that came out due to that wreck including the affair, hiring his mistress and lying about all of it to his employers.(strike6). So those of you who think I have lied or made all this up just Google BP and read the different articles about this mans history and ask yourself: Can I trust him to be loyal or faithful to UK and its fans? And if the answer is no then you have your answer to whether he should be the coach at UK. If your answer is yes then you do what you have to do to get him hired but dont say you havent been informed in advance.

    All I can say to the original post is that UK sure would be lucky to get a coach that was interviewed by Auburn, Notre Dame, LSU, and Oakland Raiders, or was hired by Arkansas and the Atlanta Falcons. I could really care less about the whole motorcycle - girlfriend incident, and all the rest of it is a great coach looking to improve his career. What Bobby Petrino does is win college football games and go to BCS bowls, and he's proven that he can do it at a mid level SEC team. He's never had any problems with the NCAA either. We would be damn lucky to have him coaching for us, as well as his brother and the rest of the staff that he would bring in here.

    I say all of this as a true blue diehard Kentucky fan who used to think that the name Petrino was as evil as any other spoken by man. My mind began to change while he was at Arkansas, and I was finally sold on him during his final season there. He's not nearly as bad of a guy and some people try to make him out to be, including me for years. He's just a guy who eats and sleeps football. He puts in the time and hard work necessary to get the wins on the field. My former self a few years ago would want to kick my ass for saying this, but I would absolutely love to have him as the head coach of my beloved Kentucky Wildcats.

    Stoops Troops reporting for duty .... Which way to the front lines?

    jasonukfan

  • jasonukfan said...

    All I can say to the original post is that UK sure would be lucky to get a coach that was interviewed by Auburn, Notre Dame, LSU, and Oakland Raiders, or was hired by Arkansas and the Atlanta Falcons. I could really care less about the whole motorcycle - girlfriend incident, and all the rest of it is a great coach looking to improve his career. What Bobby Petrino does is win college football games and go to BCS bowls, and he's proven that he can do it at a mid level SEC team. He's never had any problems with the NCAA either. We would be damn lucky to have him coaching for us, as well as his brother and the rest of the staff that he would bring in here.

    I say all of this as a true blue diehard Kentucky fan who used to think that the name Petrino was as evil as any other spoken by man. My mind began to change while he was at Arkansas, and I was finally sold on him during his final season there. He's not nearly as bad of a guy and some people try to make him out to be, including me for years. He's just a guy who eats and sleeps football. He puts in the time and hard work necessary to get the wins on the field. My former self a few years ago would want to kick my ass for saying this, but I would absolutely love to have him as the head coach of my beloved Kentucky Wildcats.

    Well I respect your opinion but I dont agree with it, and isnt that what makes this country great. The fact that he cheated on his wife is really not the point just another example of his flaws as a human being. You and others are really missing the point I tried to make in that I dont care if he tried to get another position at a more prestgious organization its the fact that he has lied to the people he has worked for all the places he has been and remember he lied to those adoring fans also when he assured them all he was there to stay. I just dont want the KY program and fans to have to go through the same things that his former employers fans had to go through.

    sleepydog

  • I get your point, but I would have to argue that you may be being a bit naive. That's the way things work in the world of hiring and firing coaches. He's not the first, and wasn't the last coach to mislead his employer or the fans. What many people don't want to allow themselves to think about is that these coaches don't lie because they are liars. They lie and say misleading things because if they don't get the other job they don't want their current job to be effected because of it. As soon as the media finds out a coach is looking at other schools they write their articles and do their reporting on TV. Then, at the college level, your opponents start to use that against you in recruiting. You're having to sit down with kids and their parents and explain your side of the story. All of a sudden you are having to answer questions about your future to nearly everyone you meet. Isn't it much easier just to deny that you are interested in any other jobs and say that you are happy where you are? Won't it serve you and your program much better if you do happen to stay put? That's why coaches are misleading when it comes to the question about coaching searches. Honesty in those situations can only hurt you and your program. It's a perfect example of no good deed goes unpunished.

    Stoops Troops reporting for duty .... Which way to the front lines?

    jasonukfan

  • jasonukfan said...

    I get your point, but I would have to argue that you may be being a bit naive. That's the way things work in the world of hiring and firing coaches. He's not the first, and wasn't the last coach to mislead his employer or the fans. What many people don't want to allow themselves to think about is that these coaches don't lie because they are liars. They lie and say misleading things because if they don't get the other job they don't want their current job to be effected because of it. As soon as the media finds out a coach is looking at other schools they write their articles and do their reporting on TV. Then, at the college level, your opponents start to use that against you in recruiting. You're having to sit down with kids and their parents and explain your side of the story. All of a sudden you are having to answer questions about your future to nearly everyone you meet. Isn't it much easier just to deny that you are interested in any other jobs and say that you are happy where you are? Won't it serve you and your program much better if you do happen to stay put? That's why coaches are misleading when it comes to the question about coaching searches. Honesty in those situations can only hurt you and your program. It's a perfect example of no good deed goes unpunished.

    explode

    sleepydog