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Chiuk said...
But you see, the issue with your factual scenario is that there is no allegations or pending lawsuit against BP that puts UK on "notice".
I would imagine that if no lawsuit against BP is filed (what's Arky's statute of limitations for this?) than its really a non-issue.
That said - you still didnt answer my question about having evidence that BP is known to engage in "sexual harassment" (legal definition of that) in the office place (outside of the issues with his mistress) - which you indiectly implied in your original response to me.
Finally, do you think the guy will do it again? Or are you saying that anyone ever accused or is under suspicion of sexual harassment, that they will never find employment again?
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JDHLaw11 said...
It does not require a lawsuit to put an employer on notice. The lawsuit (or lack of lawsuit) has no bearing on potential employers because it doesn't require a lawsuit to be on notice.
What evidence are you talking about? Hiring his mistress? Is there some factual dispute as to whether or not that happened? Sexual harassment is not a simple proposition, as there are several things that can be made the basis of a sexual harassment claim. The fact that acts happened that can be (or could have been) the basis of a sexual harassment claim serves as notice.
It doesn't matter if I think he'll do it again. It matters if the person doing the hiring thinks he will do it again, or if allegations that he did it again are worth the risk given his coaching ability. I've never said he was unhireable. I've said that administrators of institutions funded by tax dollars are going to be cautious about hiring him. It is not just trusting him not to do it again, it is the conscious decision to hire him despite his prior problems that can also be the basis of liability or the loss of an affirmative defense.
Again: He isn't untouchable. But there are serious issues that may prevent his hiring anywhere.
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shepp2700 said...
I only have one source, and I didn't believe this thread the last couple days, but my source (huuuuuge booster) just texted me that Bobby Petrino "is" the next head coach at uk, it's already done... The op is correct, Idk anything about two weeks, or whatever, but he's the guy. Official! Not sure when it will be announced....
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shepp2700 said...
I only have one source, and I didn't believe this thread the last couple days, but my source (huuuuuge booster) just texted me that Bobby Petrino "is" the next head coach at uk, it's already done... The op is correct, Idk anything about two weeks, or whatever, but he's the guy. Official! Not sure when it will be announced....
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Shepp. I think we are wasting our time. Some would argue with a wall and make up stuff to do so. I honestly can't believe people think that you just get a contract set in stone in a couple of days, especially a self pro-claimed lawyer.
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sleepydog said...
Shepp, I have no doubt you believe in your source and maybe what I have heard is wrong, but I truly believe my guys wouldnt tell me something that wasnt true. The only thing I know for sure this whole thing will be over pretty soon but again that comes from my guys so maybe they are wrong about that too. I will just wait and see and hope your source is wrong and I still believe Matt and Chris wouldnt say what they have just said unless they were confident in who they get their info from, just like Im trusting in my guys and what they have told me. If Im wrong I will have egg all over my face and will admit to being wrong but I sure hope Im not.
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JDHLaw11 said...
It does not require a lawsuit to put an employer on notice. The lawsuit (or lack of lawsuit) has no bearing on potential employers because it doesn't require a lawsuit to be on notice.
What evidence are you talking about? Hiring his mistress? Is there some factual dispute as to whether or not that happened? Sexual harassment is not a simple proposition, as there are several things that can be made the basis of a sexual harassment claim. The fact that acts happened that can be (or could have been) the basis of a sexual harassment claim serves as notice.
It doesn't matter if I think he'll do it again. It matters if the person doing the hiring thinks he will do it again, or if allegations that he did it again are worth the risk given his coaching ability. I've never said he was unhireable. I've said that administrators of institutions funded by tax dollars are going to be cautious about hiring him. It is not just trusting him not to do it again, it is the conscious decision to hire him despite his prior problems that can also be the basis of liability or the loss of an affirmative defense.
Again: He isn't untouchable. But there are serious issues that may prevent his hiring anywhere.
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jasonukfan said...
JDHLaw11 said ...... "I'm still not convinced any administrator would take the risks associated with a Petrino hire" .....
And many other people have spoken about the risks involved with hiring Petrino too.
What are these risks that come from hiring Petrino? That he might take us to a BCS bowl and then leave for a new job. Where the hell do we sign?
I could care less about the motorcycle/girlfriend thing at Arkansas. They were fools to fire him for that. Look at the mess Rick Pitino had in his personal life, and Louisville stayed the course with him. The result is a #2 ranked team following another Final 4 season under him. Arkansas could have competed for a national championship this year if they kept Petrino. I say, "Their loss, hopefully our gain".
I sure hope footballcat65 is right about his prediction. I'll believe it when I see it, though. Nothing against him, I've just seen so many internet predictions go down in flames that combined they could probably cook a 100,000 pound cow. I won't hold my breathe waiting, but if Petrino is announced as our coach I'll probably be able to be heard celebrating in all corners of Kentucky.
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JawJacker said...
I have to put this out there... I have two sources who says BP is a done deal and WILL BE our next HC.
Hell, I will even go a step further and ANNOUNCE who my sources are (something others are NOT doing)...
and my two sources are...
footballcat65 and shepp2700
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shepp2700 said...
I haven't seen Matt or Chris say anything in weeks lol. So I don't even know what that part means honestly. Just passing the info along in a way that people can actually see it, doesn't make a difference to me if anyone believes me, or if the source turns out wrong, but this sounds like a pure lock, and I am just as shocked. .... Go cats
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If you weren't trying to goat people into paying to read your opinion maybe that would hold water. Nothing against you personally. I understand you're trying to make money with this site. Just don't blame us for what we discuss when you won't provide anything else to the discussion.
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If you weren't trying to goat people into paying to read your opinion maybe that would hold water. Nothing against you personally. I understand you're trying to make money with this site. Just don't blame us for what we discuss when you won't provide anything else to the discussion.
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