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Pierce Burton to Ole Miss

  • MinterWonderlnd said...

    Regarding the perception of Joker on the hot seat- Aaron Cordero is now reporting that he spoke with someone at UK who told him that Joker had Steve Brown's replacement lined up, but that person has now backed out. He also said that Joker has been reaching out to a lot of other assistant coaching candidates and receiving very little interest in the job.

    When momentum turns on you with this much force, it's nearly impossible to rebound from it. It can be done, but the task ahead of this staff is beyond immense.

    Good grief, it true. I wonder who was supposedly lined up and then backed out on him.

    mjdotson

  • usa1000 said...

    I agree. Joker needs to go big next year. Something like to 8-4 and a big bowl game to change things. It doubt it will happen, but we can hope. There are too many hotshot coaches in this league to let this thing go much further. Let's hope Joker can get it done.

    I actually think a 6-6 or 7-5 season and another trip to the Music City Bowl would be considered a HUGE success next season and would help on the recruiting trail, especially if Vandy tanks (killing Franklin's momentum) and Ole Miss doesn't improve much. If we can beat UL and the other 3 cupcakes, Vandy and 2 other SEC schools, it would be a monumental achievement by Joker in most people's eyes. He doesn't need a 8-4 or 9-3 season to keep his job or to be considered as having done a great job next year.

    mjdotson

  • MinterWonderlnd said...

    Regarding the perception of Joker on the hot seat- Aaron Cordero is now reporting that he spoke with someone at UK who told him that Joker had Steve Brown's replacement lined up, but that person has now backed out. He also said that Joker has been reaching out to a lot of other assistant coaching candidates and receiving very little interest in the job.

    When momentum turns on you with this much force, it's nearly impossible to rebound from it. It can be done, but the task ahead of this staff is beyond immense.

    Sorry, I don't buy it.

    Whitaker568

  • Lot of open spots right now. I don't think Joker will struggle to find a qualified coach but I don't think joker has a lot of leverage or is high in the pecking order right now either.

    bigcat65

  • ultimately joker may have to take a chance on a young hungry db coach that might not have the resume some would expect

    Farmy75

  • mjdotson said...

    I actually think a 6-6 or 7-5 season and another trip to the Music City Bowl would be considered a HUGE success next season and would help on the recruiting trail, especially if Vandy tanks (killing Franklin's momentum) and Ole Miss doesn't improve much. If we can beat UL and the other 3 cupcakes, Vandy and 2 other SEC schools, it would be a monumental achievement by Joker in most people's eyes. He doesn't need a 8-4 or 9-3 season to keep his job or to be considered as having done a great job next year.

    As far as momentum on the recruiting trail, I do percieve that the newer recruits we are trying to get in on are more skeptic of Joker's job security in the future.
    The exisiting commits we have are for the most part VERY loyal to Joker (blaylocks, towels, etc).

    What will hurt will be the opening to next years season, if UK puts a poor showing against Louisville the waters are going to begin to boil around joker. Then if they play poorly to WKU or (dear god) loose to WKU then Joker could be pulled early next year.

    Farmy75

  • MinterWonderlnd said...

    Regarding the perception of Joker on the hot seat- Aaron Cordero is now reporting that he spoke with someone at UK who told him that Joker had Steve Brown's replacement lined up, but that person has now backed out. He also said that Joker has been reaching out to a lot of other assistant coaching candidates and receiving very little interest in the job.

    When momentum turns on you with this much force, it's nearly impossible to rebound from it. It can be done, but the task ahead of this staff is beyond immense.

    I kinda doubt that there is "very little interest" in the opening. Assistant coaches in the SEC make more than most head coaches in other conferences do. Steve Brown made $324,000 last year. I doubt the new coach will make anywhere near that much, but either way you look at it, it is a very lucrative position.

    "Apparently the University of Kentucky basketball dynasty is to continue forever." - Philadelphia Inquirer, December 23 1954.

    BigBlueTopper

  • BigBlueTopper said...
    Steve Brown made $324,000 last year. I doubt the new coach will make anywhere near that much, but either way you look at it, it is a very lucrative position.

    That was his pay as defensive coordinator. So you are right. The new coach will not make anywhere near that.

    This post was edited by 7lives on 12/22/2011 at 2:52 PM

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    7lives

  • BigBlueTopper said...

    I kinda doubt that there is "very little interest" in the opening. Assistant coaches in the SEC make more than most head coaches in other conferences do. Steve Brown made $324,000 last year. I doubt the new coach will make anywhere near that much, but either way you look at it, it is a very lucrative position.

    Reputable, established coaches do not want to leave a place where they have relative security for a job where the coach is considered by most to be one of the most at-risk "hot seat" coaches in the entire country, just because its a chance to go to the SEC. The risk of doing that is too high in the eyes of most and isn't worth going to the SEC for one season and then possibly being run out of town with the entire staff.

    mjdotson

  • Whitaker568 said...

    Sorry, I don't buy it.

    Your right. No reason to buy into that. The job has been posted twice as long as policy requires, we are coming down to the wire in recruiting, and still no DB coach. No reason to think Joker is getting turned down in his coach recruiting just like player recruiting is there. Head in the sand....

    usa1000

  • MinterWonderlnd said...

    Regarding the perception of Joker on the hot seat- Aaron Cordero is now reporting that he spoke with someone at UK who told him that Joker had Steve Brown's replacement lined up, but that person has now backed out. He also said that Joker has been reaching out to a lot of other assistant coaching candidates and receiving very little interest in the job.

    When momentum turns on you with this much force, it's nearly impossible to rebound from it. It can be done, but the task ahead of this staff is beyond immense.

    Granted, I could be mistaken, but I don't buy this anymore than I bought the idea that we had a coach who hadn't signed but was recruiting for us under the radar.

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    rompcat

  • usa1000 said...

    Your right. No reason to buy into that. The job has been posted twice as long as policy requires, we are coming down to the wire in recruiting, and still no DB coach. No reason to think Joker is getting turned down in his coach recruiting just like player recruiting is there. Head in the sand....

    Is it still posted? The opening said that it would close on the 13th.

    If it is, would you please show the info placed into the job search fields that produce it?

    I thought it was far more likely that we were allowing a coach to finish his bowl game before being announced than something such as the above post states.

    Edit Note: wording and punctuation change

    This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by rompcat on 12/22/2011 at 5:49 PM

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    rompcat

  • MinterWonderlnd said...

    Regarding the perception of Joker on the hot seat- Aaron Cordero is now reporting that he spoke with someone at UK who told him that Joker had Steve Brown's replacement lined up, but that person has now backed out. He also said that Joker has been reaching out to a lot of other assistant coaching candidates and receiving very little interest in the job.

    When momentum turns on you with this much force, it's nearly impossible to rebound from it. It can be done, but the task ahead of this staff is beyond immense.

    Stop.

    This post was edited by Warmother51 on 12/24/2011 at 8:58 AM

    snarkster

  • snarkster said...

    Stop.

    Stop what, the truth?

    Laugh, cry or puke - UK football fans don't have many options left at this point. So everybody has to get in lockstep and pretned everything is hunky-dorie on thi board?

    You don't like negativity? The real negativity comes out of the CWS offices on a near-daily basis. I don't like that and I don't like those that think all the program needs is a band aid on the boo-boo and questioning my fandomand telling me how tothink and post. You all say your sick to death of negative posts? Maybe there are some out there who are just as sickened that there has been nothing dones to address this years problems. Wanna play holier-than thou? Great, but other opinions are just as valid.

    snarkster

  • snarkster said...

    Stop what, the truth?

    Laugh, cry or puke - UK football fans don't have many options left at this point. So everybody has to get in lockstep and pretned everything is hunky-dorie on thi board?

    You don't like negativity? The real negativity comes out of the CWS offices on a near-daily basis. I don't like that and I don't like those that think all the program needs is a band aid on the boo-boo and questioning my fandomand telling me how tothink and post. You all say your sick to death of negative posts? Maybe there are some out there who are just as sickened that there has been nothing dones to address this years problems. Wanna play holier-than thou? Great, but other opinions are just as valid.

    Wait, did you just respond to your own post where you told someone else to stop with the negativity?

    mjdotson

  • The "Stop" wasn't me. It was Warmother playing moddy with my post and not really noting the change.

    This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by snarkster on 12/24/2011 at 1:16 PM

    snarkster

  • The stop was for the name calling. There was nothing worth noting. It wasnt about the negativity.

    This post was edited by Warmother51 on 12/24/2011 at 1:59 PM

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    Warmother51

  • I wasn't name calling - I was making a contrast - a very valid one at that I believe.

    This post was edited by snarkster on 12/24/2011 at 3:01 PM

    snarkster

  • Its what you called Joker that I took issue with which is invalid on this site regardless of what you believe.

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    It smells like microwaved homeless people in here.

    Warmother51

  • Again, I called Joker nothing. I contrasted his lack of reults to Cal's success using Cal's slogan for this year. It's fair and telling. Valid IMO. You wanna play cop for the "everything's just peachy crowd", that's fine. If I can get a straight answer to the PM is sent you that you sloughed off on someone else, then it will no longer be a problem anyway.

    If what I posted was negative, then that's Joker's fault not mine.

    This post has been edited 4 times, most recently by snarkster on 12/24/2011 at 10:10 PM

    snarkster

  • Okay the PM you sent me asked about cancelling your subscription. You wanna come on here and whine about that I gave you the EXACT answer. I dont control anything about scripts. You need to take that up with Jeff or Chris. Know what the hell you are talking about before you start running your suck.

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    Warmother51

  • Warmother51 said...

    Okay the PM you sent me asked about cancelling your subscription. You wanna come on here and whine about that I gave you the EXACT answer. I dont control anything about scripts. You need to take that up with Jeff or Chris. Know what the hell you are talking about before you start running your suck.

    "Running your suck?" Must be some kind of mod speak. If I "knew what the hell (I) was talking about", (when it comes to canceling) I would not have asked you how to cancel in my membership in he first place via PM. I didn't come on this board an post Well. I'm gonna cancel becaue I don't likethe way I'm treated. Wasn't a plea for others to say "oh no, don't go!". (Certainly don't expect that anyone would, for that matter) Hate those kinds of posts.

    I PM'ed you (thinking the P stood for "Private"), asking you for a link or phone number to cancel my subscription. You basically told me I don't handle that, contact Chris or JDrum. Not much explanation. I PM'd you for the information because you were the Mod I figur were on duty because you were the last I saw post. I PM'd Chris as soon as I saw your response, but still haven't heard back. I'm guessing I contact JDrum or Chris and they have to cancel for me.

    Forgive me, because I'm still fuzzy on this. haven't received much of an answer.

    And, since you decided to take Private to Public then, I am a subscriber on three Wildcat premium boards. Times are not what they used to be and I decided recently that I needed to cut some corners. I was just having a hard time eciding which to drop. I like all three boards and love having as much Wildcat info as possible.

    I have been a Member of the Cats Pause board even before it was a Cats Pause Board (the old 90s Rainman days). I followed here mainly becauseo JDruum (have really injoyed Chris and Mr. may too though). Today made it easier though.

    There's been a lot of talk about all "the negativity" around here. Well, there's is not a lot of positive around the UK football program (my opinion). When someone around here expresses their legitimate anger and frustraion they are jumped on by the "koom-ba-yah krowd" and backed by certain mods with a hair trigger (with little mention of the attack by those that are "fed up by the negativity").

    I tried to keep the subject of my PM private by PMing (as usually requested), but since that was brought here, I decided .to state my reasoning. I have every reason to believe it will be gone in much less time than it took to type) despite the fact that it was you who made the subject public.. Gotta be positive!

    The Cats Pause will be missed, even if I won't. JDrum or Chris, would you please email or PM me with a way to cancel my subscription at your earliest convenience if you see this once it's moved to the Moderator's Forum? Or if it is within you power, you can just go ahead and cancel.

    This post has been edited 4 times, most recently by snarkster on 12/25/2011 at 1:08 AM

    snarkster

  • snarkster said...
    If I can get a straight answer to the PM is sent you that you sloughed off on someone else, then it will no longer be a problem anyway.

    So I suppose the fact that literally 2 posts up you mentioned the PM wasnt really about that PM? How again did I bring it up? Yeah... Anyway bottom line is Jeff and Chris is who you need to talk to about cancellation. Especially since I have told you this now for the 3rd time. I cannot fathom how you can still be fuzzy on that. Tell them your concerns and they will explain how to fix your problem. Its really as simple as that. Why would I delete this? No rules have been broken therefore there is no reason for me to delete or modify. I am positive about that. Good day, Goodbye, Merry Christmas. Thanks for comin' out...

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    Warmother51

  • I decided to do a little research and help you out. Here is the link to learn how to cancel your subscription. You could have found this by searching "subscription cancel".

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    It smells like microwaved homeless people in here.

    Warmother51

  • Thanks, all I needed.

    snarkster