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Question about the weather and its impact

  • Once again, newer football fan here, so please educate me. What impact could rain have on the game?

    1) Does rain usually mean the team with the best running game has an advantage due to the passing game being disrupted?

    and

    2) Does rain kind of give the "underdog" a better chance since the play as a whole will be more sloppy?

    Thanks!

    This post was edited by Big Sarge on 8/29/2012 at 1:55 PM

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  • Big Sarge said...

    Once again, newer football fan here, so please educate me. What impact could rain have on the game?

    1) Does rain usually mean the team with the best running game has an advantage due to the passing game being disrupted?

    and

    2) Does rain kind of give the "underdog" a better chance since the play as a whole will be more sloppy?

    Thanks!

    I am by no means an expert, but from what i have seen,
    1) Wr and TE have a much worst time cutting on the grass/turf during or after rain, making the passing game hard to predict, which is what you have to have for a passing game to work
    2) A RB with minimal fumbling tendency has an advantage, ones with will more than likely struggle with fumbling
    3) Every single exchange of the ball is nerve wrecking, can have a TO at any point.
    4) It doesn't always give the underdog an advantage, like if WSU was playing UL during the remanents of Issac, then it would be a disadvantage. but it could cause more turnovers causing for a tighter game.
    5) DL can wreck havoc bc they aren't relying on full speed cuts, just small burst.
    6) You can also expect a lot more zone converge to be played, bc if you have man to man, and the defender slips but the WR doesn't, instant TD.
    oh, and as an ex OL, I LOVE RAINY GAMES. biggrin

    trueUKgamer

  • With a rainy game, anything can happen. Isn't it turf at the Pizza pit though? If so, the ball will just be more slippery, and the ground will be a little more slick. Whatever the case, a rainy game often equalizes the competition, and considering that UK and UL are not that far apart, it should make for a close game. Also, both coaches will likely be more conservative to avoid turnovers, so expect a low scoring game.

    Catmando

  • Catmando said...

    With a rainy game, anything can happen. Isn't it turf at the Pizza pit though? If so, the ball will just be more slippery, and the ground will be a little more slick. Whatever the case, a rainy game often equalizes the competition, and considering that UK and UL are not that far apart, it should make for a close game. Also, both coaches will likely be more conservative to avoid turnovers, so expect a low scoring game.

    You could be right but it wouldn't surprise me if the first team who goes on offense doesn't try a hail mary on the first play.

    UKlaw82

  • When I played it seemed like the team that could adjust better to the conditions had the advantage. It's frustrating when you are out there and you try to throw a pass and one of a thousand things happen due to the weather to screw it up. The weather usually messes the offense up more than the defense considerably......and with our defensive strength being more of the front 7 and not the secondary, it could help us.

    Sometimes you do have to change your plan a little and modify things which can mean the difference between winning and losing.

    BlueRaider22

  • While the passing game tends to suffer and it is easy to cover intermediate routes as WR's have a tougher time getting in and out of breaks, it is just as hard for coverage to keep up with double move routes.

    SEC Fanatic

  • How about this? UL isn't movin' Rumph and Cobble especially on an "off-track".

    That plugs the middle - so they try speed to the outside. Much more difficult to turn the corner on a wet surface as well. Benefits UK.

    fbtimeblue

  • I disagree with those that are posting that the defense has an advantage over WRs in wet conditions. I have found it to be just the opposite and WRs have an advantage over the DBs because the WRs know where and when they are going to make their cuts.

    I agree that it would be wise to play a lot of zone pass defense in such conditions.

    If the opponant loaded the LOS and put their DBs on an island in man I would run double moves and try to get deep on them. It takes only one slip by a DB and you have an easy TD.

    Cll80

  • Good points C1180, but whereas it only takes 1 slip for the DB to make a score....the offense has many more moving parts. The QB has to take the snap (exchange #1) using a wet ball that was laying on the ground a second ago, carry it without slipping himself, avoid traffic as able, see the WR (visibility limited), make the pass (with a now wetter ball), the WR has to now catch the pass (exchange #2) which is likely to be more off the mark than usual (and with visibility limited) and while trying not to drop the wet ball while getting hit.

    Many, many moving parts. I think the advantage is the defense.....hence why games in poor weather are often filled with less points and more turnovers.

    That being said, everyone is playing in the same weather though. So both defenses will have some advantage.

    BlueRaider22

  • Remember when we played central Michigan in2007 ithink ? The first half it was raining and seemed like every time we hit them it would cause them to fumble and we had a big lead at the half but when the rain stopped in the third qtr lefevour passed all over us and almost pulled off the upset

    loyalblue

  • I never really understood this whole weather angle... and how it effects the game one way or the other.

    Unless I'm missing something... doesn't BOTH teams have to play under the exact same weather conditions? headslap

    Oh, and before anyone tells me how much it hurts the Cards passing game or running game or whatever.... first explain to me how that SAME weather is NOT gonna effect any part of OUR game. The way I see it is... both teams are effected by weather conditions and there's no amount of rain, wind, snow or sunshine that's gonna benefit one team over the other.

    SO STOP LOOKING (PRAYING) FOR EXCUSES.... it makes us look weak no

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by JawJacker on 8/30/2012 at 10:52 AM

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  • Bad weather likely keeps the score down, so that gives an advantage to the team expected to be "blown out" by keeping them in the game longer. And turnovers are more likely, so a critical one in the red zone could decide the game one way or another since an easy score would be harder to overcome by EITHER team.

    jimlowe7

  • JawJacker said...

    I never really understood this whole weather angle... and how it effects the game one way or the other.

    Unless I'm missing something... doesn't BOTH teams have to play under the exact same weather conditions?

    Oh, and before anyone tells me how much it hurts the Cards passing game or running game or whatever.... first explain to me how that SAME weather is NOT gonna effect any part of OUR game. The way I see it is... both teams are effected by weather conditions and there's no amount of rain, wind, snow or sunshine that's gonna benefit one team over the other.

    SO STOP LOOKING (PRAYING) FOR EXCUSES.... it makes us look weak

    Both teams do play in the weather, but it may affect both teams differently. A team that runs to the outside a lot looking for cut back lanes is going to be affected much differently than a team that likes to run between the tackles. A team that passes a lot is going to be affected much differently than a team that runs it more often. A team that relies heavily on more bigger players along the d-line is going to be affected more than a team that relies more on lighter/faster guys in space.

    BlueRaider22

  • JawJacker said...

    I never really understood this whole weather angle... and how it effects the game one way or the other.

    Unless I'm missing something... doesn't BOTH teams have to play under the exact same weather conditions? headslap

    Oh, and before anyone tells me how much it hurts the Cards passing game or running game or whatever.... first explain to me how that SAME weather is NOT gonna effect any part of OUR game. The way I see it is... both teams are effected by weather conditions and there's no amount of rain, wind, snow or sunshine that's gonna benefit one team over the other.

    SO STOP LOOKING (PRAYING) FOR EXCUSES.... it makes us look weak no

    So, you think it won't be an effect at all?

    UKlaw82

  • The point is ... it still "effects" BOTH teams. Sure, it effects teams differently, but it will still deminish some part of each team (running game, passing game, special teams, etc)... so it all equals out in the wash. (pun intended)

    You guys act like one team gets hammered by some storm that ruins their game, while the opponent is not effected at all... as if it's a dry, sunny day on their side of the ball only.

    It's a goofy argument

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