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PHCD said...
As it often is, the truth is in the middle with Franklin. There's no question Vandy has a different feel to them and buzz. They expect to win every game now. As those who play competitive golf know, it is not easy to completely change your confidence and mindset. He's recruiting like a rock star right now. We'll see if these players stick with Vandy until signing day, but the fact that big names have Vandy in their top 5/3 is impressive.
BUT...
Vandy is actually a pretty easy sell. The campus is awesome, the city is awesome, the school is awesome. As for the girls...there are better places... but everything else is great. Anybody that has somewhat a personality to them can get people to listen to a Vandy pitch based on those things alone.
He took an experienced team, won two conference games against the two worst teams in the SEC and beat his four OOC teams. Yawn. Joker's first year was actually better, as at least we won against a top 10 team and Louisville was a better OOC than any Vandy beat last year.
Has Franklin turned out to be a great hire for Vandy? Aboslutely. Has he surpassed Joker and forever left us in the dust? Hell no.
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jeffries123 said...
Not impresses by Charlie. Franklin took a 2 win program and in 1 year went to a bowl and is recruiting outrageously good. Completely turned the culture around. I'm impressed by that. Not comparing KY success to Florida. Just pointing out he took a completely different scheme and style and had success rather quickly. There's plenty of other examples of first year success without that kind of talent. Hudspeth(spelling? ) at Louisiana Lafayette comes to mind.
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Warmother51 said...
Its not a turn around when you have a losing record. Did they get better? Sure. Its hard not to when you suck that bad. Is there a lot of "talk" going on at Vandy? Sure. If Franklin wins this year and they go 8-4 or even 7-5 recruits will stick. If he goes 5-7 or 6-6 then it is still the same Vandy. How ridiculous is it to say there has been a turn around, when its been one year and that one year was a losing record. That tells you how truly terrible Vandy was and still is.
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suncat05 said...
This year's team has a lot more potential than last year's did, but last year's team had some potential too, and frankly, they just failed miserably to getting close enough to achieve it. On defense we have a bit of depth and they're in the 2nd full season of Minter's tutelage. I think we're gonna be much better on "D" than anyone thinks. On offense, everything hinges on whether the damn WR's will catch a stinkin' pass. A lot of you who saw them in the spring have said they'll be better at doing so, so I will roll with that opinion, as you've seen them & I have not. Max Smith is demonstrably better @ QB than Newton, from what I saw last season. The "O" line is young, but will have some experience, size, and a bit of depth to it, so in the end, barring mass injuries, I think we'll be okay there. But where we have to succeed is with the WR's catching the ball and making yards after a catch. That happens, and we're going to win some games this year, and probably a game or two that nobody gives us a chance in right now. But the damn WR's have to do their jobs, there's no other way around it. They have to start producing. If they do not catch passes, run their routes correctly, or block downfield after a catch for each other, then we may not even win 5 games. They do perform well, I can see Kentucky winning 6 or 7 games.
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mrhotdice said...
If Joker goes winless in SEC play this year, why would anyone think the next year would be any better?
The SEC is not sitting on their hands so Joker can win a few games fella's. They are also recruiting good players and getting better.
Joker and 5 years and then thats it. Either he wins and gets a new contract or he hits the road. End of story.
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mrhotdice said...
If Joker goes winless in SEC play this year, why would anyone think the next year would be any better?
The SEC is not sitting on their hands so Joker can win a few games fella's. They are also recruiting good players and getting better.
Joker and 5 years and then thats it. Either he wins and gets a new contract or he hits the road. End of story.
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mrbaseball2004 said...
...I also had to cringe time and time again when the BBN was in town for the SECT and the F4 (as much as I loved seeing my stomping ground painted blue & white instead of LSU, Bama, or Ole Miss colors) when we would get taunted by fans from other schools and the reply was "well we beat yall in basketball." I know UK fans think that's a good comeback, and it is to fan bases that care about basketball.. but those fan bases aren't in the SEC, save maybe Vandy. They laugh at us when we say wait for basketball season, because that's about as relevant to them as field hockey ...
QFT
And the reality is those fans don't even know they are looked down on even more so by those SEC fans for being so completely clueless!
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Re-watching the SEC Media Days analysis of Kentucky